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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:00 am 
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Heaney saying "i'm dropping out because I can't run 2 football clubs" is a load of balls & everyone knows it.

I personally think it is because of a mixture of 3 things, the fan reaction/media coverage, lack of money & PCC telling him to do one about the multiplex.

James Brent has impressed me with his vision of property development helping to sustain a successfull football club, which is why i'd like to see this man given a crack at trying to restore our great club

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I'm still sceptical about any new owner, so fingers crossed that isn't a line to endear himself to the fans and he will actually keep to his word.

Ps. Bullivant is a tory counciller X Isle


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:03 am 
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Smiffy/X Isle has it spot on here.

The fact that Ridsdale is back talking on behalf of the club is an interesting development as far as I am concerned and conformation that he's back on board in some capacity. In fact it wouldn't surprise if the whole Heaney thing was Todd playing dice with the club again.

I expect we'll be hearing more from Ridsdale in the next few weeks with more alleged parties enter the bidding. The fact we'll go out of business in the close season if things aren't sorted isn't really news though.

Obviously whoever buys the club will have their eye on the property aspect more than anything but they have to be aware that the football club is the core business and should not be treated as such. This is why Brent is my favoured option.

What I cannot accept is the idea of Argyle ending up as a conference level club whilst playing in a spanking new arena in the shadows of a shopping centre.

I hope for Brent but expect he'll be the last ditch option.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:11 am 
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I think we'll have to read about Buttivant for a few weeks while the Council laugh at his Todd-style development proposals for Central Park, just as they wet themselves over Heaney's cinema complex idea. :lol:
Meanwhile, Brent will quietly go about his business and be ready as the preferred bidder in a few weeks time.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:13 am 
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cheshiregreen wrote:
dennis the menace wrote:
Reading the paper copy of The Herald this morning part of Heaney plans were to build a multiplex cinema on the car park. He is not quoted dircetly but it is believed that the issue of owning 2 football clubs was the reason for his withdrawal.

Enter Mr Buutivant with some foreign backer with Mr Brent still in the background.

We don't want any 'wise boys' at Home Park. I like the sound of Mr Brent's, albeit low profile, approach.


Surely, that can't have just come out of the woodwork - he would have known that as should anyone involved in the game at that kind of level.

Think there is more to it than that.


Exactly, I would have thought that issue would have been the No.1 consideration. To have employed consultants and travel to London without having established first base does not send out the right signals as a potential, lost, valuable purchaser that has slipped through
BG's fingers. I think it is more face saving, in my estimation.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:16 am 
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I've been thinking about Ridsdale's involvement. All along I have been sure that the one person who will get exactly what he wants out of the situation is Ridsdale, otherwise just why has he continued to be involved. Is there any possibility that Brent (with Ridsdale on board) is actually the preferred bidder but that a game is being played using other bidders to delay the point at which Brent is brought in and/or to reduce the liabilities that Brent will actually face when he is brought in? That way the other bidders get embroiled in all the nasty public negotiations/media stuff whilst everyone is led to believe that they are in pole position while Brent sits in the background avoiding the limelight, the scrutiny and some of the costs until Brenda and Ridsdale are ready to bring him in as the last-ditch saviour.

I should point out that I'm not normally one for conspiracy theories, but at the moment, where Argyle is concerned, anything seems to be possible.

[Just read PL3 3DQ's latest post on this thread. Great minds think alike...]


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:27 am 
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PL2 3DQ wrote:
I think we'll have to read about Buttivant for a few weeks while the Council laugh at his Todd-style development proposals for Central Park, just as they wet themselves over Heaney's cinema complex idea. :lol:
Meanwhile, Brent will quietly go about his business and be ready as the preferred bidder in a few weeks time.


I do hope so.

His quiet, measured and patient approach with realistic ambitions for the development (not the laughable Tracy Island schemes the numpties are coming out with) just lends itself perfectly to a quiet measured and patient approach required to developing trust in the Argyle Brand again. It's what hotels do to attact custom, the others seem to favour the 'golf sale' approach.

Go for it JB, you're the only sensible choice, the fans will be with you.

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The thing I never quite get is why bidders don't acknowledge the fact that the land
on which the ground stands was originally bequeathed to the people of Plymouth for sporting purposes.

So there may be some legal room to interpret that, and there was a revision in 2007,
but the basic idea is that the land is there to benefit everyone who can get sporting
enjoyment from it.

I'm not saying that nothing should ever be built in Central Park but, in my opinion, anyone
bidding should come out and say' 'This land will always be used primarily for sporting purposes.'

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:45 am 
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PL2 3DQ wrote:
I think we'll have to read about Buttivant for a few weeks while the Council laugh at his Todd-style development proposals for Central Park, just as they wet themselves over Heaney's cinema complex idea. :lol:
Meanwhile, Brent will quietly go about his business and be ready as the preferred bidder in a few weeks time.


Why the hell don't BG just get him on board before the supporters get completly pi55ed off. :cry: :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:46 am 
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From the BBC's report on Heaney;

Former Argyle executive-director Todd has told BBC Sport's Matt Slater that Mastpoint have now agreed to relinquish their security on the stadium.

In return for this concession, Mastpoint have requested that they will be entitled to recoup monies owed if the club returns to the Championship.


So having promised us a five-year plan for the Premiership, bankrupted the club & sent us into League 2, with the possibility of another points deduction if we can't sort out a CVA, not to mention forcing the sale of our best players, they now want paying if, by some miracle, we make it back to where we were when they came in.

Unbelievable!

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:48 am 
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X Isle wrote:
PL2 3DQ wrote:
I think we'll have to read about Buttivant for a few weeks while the Council laugh at his Todd-style development proposals for Central Park, just as they wet themselves over Heaney's cinema complex idea. :lol:
Meanwhile, Brent will quietly go about his business and be ready as the preferred bidder in a few weeks time.


I do hope so.

His quiet, measured and patient approach with realistic ambitions for the development (not the laughable Tracy Island schemes the numpties are coming out with) just lends itself perfectly to a quiet measured and patient approach required to developing trust in the Argyle Brand again. It's what hotels do to attact custom, the others seem to favour the 'golf sale' approach.

Go for it JB, you're the only sensible choice, the fans will be with you.


I agree, Brent is looking like the best option for a stable future. I've still got nagging doubts about anything that involves the Riddler, a huge gamble given his previous form...

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I thought the word 'sport' was rejigged to include 'leisure' which has a much wider meaning.

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Sport = running around in the fresh air.

Leisure = putting money in a slot machine, or worse.

The spirit of it is clear I think.

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isn't buttivant just a football club stalker? apart from wrexham im sure i read somewhere that he has been linked with other clubs, im with x-isle it has to be brent he already has close links with the council knows the city probably better than any other prospective owner and has acknowledged the football club is for the fans lets just hope he can reach a deal.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 12:22 pm 
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WMN version of today's Heaney story:

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The Herald's version of the same story is longer. Not sure if it's online yet.

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not for the first time on these boards: ... bye ....

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