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N. I got your point. It was just rubbish.

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Babararacucudada wrote:
N. I got your point. It was just rubbish.


Of course dear, thanks for your contribution. :yawn:

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Babararacucudada wrote:
N. I got your point. It was just rubbish.


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They're not politicians; they cold, calculated businessmen with careers based on nepotism, priveledge and the right breeding. They're either fast-tracked to working in parliament or as CEOs of large multi-nationals, or as officers in the armed forces. Their Etonian background means they couldn't be more removed from the workings of everyday society.

Quite ironic really, when you think they make decisions that affect the rest of us, but not them!

Like a tee-totaller trying to help a recovering alcoholic!!

I think we live under a condition of ultra-capitalism, whereby it's all about the individual and its ok to lie, cheat and steal as long as you don't get caught. Unfortunately this affects those nearer the bottom rather than the top.


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oggyale wrote:
If you lived in the USA,then you would say that capitalism is working.

It is pretty clear that the Republicans will win the next election over there. Obama has had his day in the sun,and the great voting public of the States made history by putting him there too.

He and the Democrats have tried to change the Country for the best,but it appears the voting public will oust him from office.

America is not a great lover of socialism and its politics,and whether you can call Obama a closet socialist is open to debate.

America is a capitalist nation,they thrive on it. It is what the Country is made of and made from.

They fear the current financial crisis in Europe,as it would have huge implications over there.

I believe that capitalism has failed here in the UK and around the globe also. I view capitalism as an updated version of the feudal system,where the haves have more,and the have nots have less.

Capitalism is not an ideology,but rather a way of life where inequality is supreme. There is no alternative to capitalism at present. So we all have to grin and bare it,in the hope that one day a fairer and equal side emerges from within capitalism.


Oggy I don't disagree with everything in that post, but I reckon you're wildly off regarding Obama.

The US economy is slowly pulling through, and he is already well ahead of every Republican contender in the key states, as well as some he didn't win in 2008.

The Republicans have been taken over by a deranged Fox News/Tea Party faction making it impossible for a sane candidate to win the nomination. The field is comprised of nutcases and mediocrities whom sensible centre-right people (who don't make the news, but vastly outnumber the gun-toting tea party types) will not be willing to vote for.

Unless something spectacular occurs in 2012, Obama will win by a landslide.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:52 am 
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Brixton 'ill Pilgrim wrote:
oggyale wrote:
If you lived in the USA,then you would say that capitalism is working.

It is pretty clear that the Republicans will win the next election over there. Obama has had his day in the sun,and the great voting public of the States made history by putting him there too.

He and the Democrats have tried to change the Country for the best,but it appears the voting public will oust him from office.

America is not a great lover of socialism and its politics,and whether you can call Obama a closet socialist is open to debate.

America is a capitalist nation,they thrive on it. It is what the Country is made of and made from.

They fear the current financial crisis in Europe,as it would have huge implications over there.

I believe that capitalism has failed here in the UK and around the globe also. I view capitalism as an updated version of the feudal system,where the haves have more,and the have nots have less.

Capitalism is not an ideology,but rather a way of life where inequality is supreme. There is no alternative to capitalism at present. So we all have to grin and bare it,in the hope that one day a fairer and equal side emerges from within capitalism.


Oggy I don't disagree with everything in that post, but I reckon you're wildly off regarding Obama.

The US economy is slowly pulling through, and he is already well ahead of every Republican contender in the key states, as well as some he didn't win in 2008.

The Republicans have been taken over by a deranged Fox News/Tea Party faction making it impossible for a sane candidate to win the nomination. The field is comprised of nutcases and mediocrities whom sensible centre-right people (who don't make the news, but vastly outnumber the gun-toting tea party types) will not be willing to vote for.

Unless something spectacular occurs in 2012, Obama will win by a landslide.


:iagree:

If a sensible independent had the choice between Barack Obama or Newt Gingrich/Rick Perry/Herman Cane/Michelle Bachmann, who do you think he'd go for? Know most of those are now out of the race, but there isn't a sensible Republican choice left. Their party has been destroyed from within by a nut-job faction.


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Manchester Green wrote:
Brixton 'ill Pilgrim wrote:
oggyale wrote:
If you lived in the USA,then you would say that capitalism is working.

It is pretty clear that the Republicans will win the next election over there. Obama has had his day in the sun,and the great voting public of the States made history by putting him there too.

He and the Democrats have tried to change the Country for the best,but it appears the voting public will oust him from office.

America is not a great lover of socialism and its politics,and whether you can call Obama a closet socialist is open to debate.

America is a capitalist nation,they thrive on it. It is what the Country is made of and made from.

They fear the current financial crisis in Europe,as it would have huge implications over there.

I believe that capitalism has failed here in the UK and around the globe also. I view capitalism as an updated version of the feudal system,where the haves have more,and the have nots have less.

Capitalism is not an ideology,but rather a way of life where inequality is supreme. There is no alternative to capitalism at present. So we all have to grin and bare it,in the hope that one day a fairer and equal side emerges from within capitalism.


Oggy I don't disagree with everything in that post, but I reckon you're wildly off regarding Obama.

The US economy is slowly pulling through, and he is already well ahead of every Republican contender in the key states, as well as some he didn't win in 2008.

The Republicans have been taken over by a deranged Fox News/Tea Party faction making it impossible for a sane candidate to win the nomination. The field is comprised of nutcases and mediocrities whom sensible centre-right people (who don't make the news, but vastly outnumber the gun-toting tea party types) will not be willing to vote for.

Unless something spectacular occurs in 2012, Obama will win by a landslide.


:iagree:

If a sensible independent had the choice between Barack Obama or Newt Gingrich/Rick Perry/Herman Cane/Michelle Bachmann, who do you think he'd go for? Know most of those are now out of the race, but there isn't a sensible Republican choice left. Their party has been destroyed from within by a nut-job faction.


Has there ever been a time when the Republican Party hasn't had a nut-job faction? In recent years it's tended to have been the President :)

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mike_gss wrote:
Manchester Green wrote:
Brixton 'ill Pilgrim wrote:
oggyale wrote:
If you lived in the USA,then you would say that capitalism is working.

It is pretty clear that the Republicans will win the next election over there. Obama has had his day in the sun,and the great voting public of the States made history by putting him there too.

He and the Democrats have tried to change the Country for the best,but it appears the voting public will oust him from office.

America is not a great lover of socialism and its politics,and whether you can call Obama a closet socialist is open to debate.

America is a capitalist nation,they thrive on it. It is what the Country is made of and made from.

They fear the current financial crisis in Europe,as it would have huge implications over there.

I believe that capitalism has failed here in the UK and around the globe also. I view capitalism as an updated version of the feudal system,where the haves have more,and the have nots have less.

Capitalism is not an ideology,but rather a way of life where inequality is supreme. There is no alternative to capitalism at present. So we all have to grin and bare it,in the hope that one day a fairer and equal side emerges from within capitalism.


Oggy I don't disagree with everything in that post, but I reckon you're wildly off regarding Obama.

The US economy is slowly pulling through, and he is already well ahead of every Republican contender in the key states, as well as some he didn't win in 2008.

The Republicans have been taken over by a deranged Fox News/Tea Party faction making it impossible for a sane candidate to win the nomination. The field is comprised of nutcases and mediocrities whom sensible centre-right people (who don't make the news, but vastly outnumber the gun-toting tea party types) will not be willing to vote for.

Unless something spectacular occurs in 2012, Obama will win by a landslide.


:iagree:

If a sensible independent had the choice between Barack Obama or Newt Gingrich/Rick Perry/Herman Cane/Michelle Bachmann, who do you think he'd go for? Know most of those are now out of the race, but there isn't a sensible Republican choice left. Their party has been destroyed from within by a nut-job faction.


Has there ever been a time when the Republican Party hasn't had a nut-job faction? In recent years it's tended to have been the President :)


I think that sort of proves the point Mike. In Britain, George W Bush would probably be too right wing to get elected. Even in America, people were largely sick of him by the time he left office, and he had to rely on some dodgy electoral mathematics to get there in the first place, then a febrile atmosphere created by 9/11 to win a second term.

Key figures from that era, including Karl Rove, the Frankenstein responsible for the Bush monster, have been very vocal recently in expressing their dismay at the growing tea party's influence over the Republicans. If people like Rove think the Presidential candidates are too extreme, they haven't a hope in hell of winning over mainstream opinion.

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Brixton 'ill Pilgrim wrote:
oggyale wrote:
If you lived in the USA,then you would say that capitalism is working.

It is pretty clear that the Republicans will win the next election over there. Obama has had his day in the sun,and the great voting public of the States made history by putting him there too.

He and the Democrats have tried to change the Country for the best,but it appears the voting public will oust him from office.

America is not a great lover of socialism and its politics,and whether you can call Obama a closet socialist is open to debate.

America is a capitalist nation,they thrive on it. It is what the Country is made of and made from.

They fear the current financial crisis in Europe,as it would have huge implications over there.

I believe that capitalism has failed here in the UK and around the globe also. I view capitalism as an updated version of the feudal system,where the haves have more,and the have nots have less.

Capitalism is not an ideology,but rather a way of life where inequality is supreme. There is no alternative to capitalism at present. So we all have to grin and bare it,in the hope that one day a fairer and equal side emerges from within capitalism.


Oggy I don't disagree with everything in that post, but I reckon you're wildly off regarding Obama.

The US economy is slowly pulling through, and he is already well ahead of every Republican contender in the key states, as well as some he didn't win in 2008.

The Republicans have been taken over by a deranged Fox News/Tea Party faction making it impossible for a sane candidate to win the nomination. The field is comprised of nutcases and mediocrities whom sensible centre-right people (who don't make the news, but vastly outnumber the gun-toting tea party types) will not be willing to vote for.

Unless something spectacular occurs in 2012, Obama will win by a landslide.



The Republicans winning the race to the White House is only an opinion that i have drawn from an American forum i use. I sense they would like to see the Republicans back in office.
Although,the USA Presidential elections always go down to the wire

The economy is crucial to the vote,but many starting to blame Obama for the current woes. Yes,Obama has done wonders in trying to get to grips with the problems they have,but with the IMF report saying the global outlook is very gloomy,he will have a job on his hands to convince further.

I posted a question on who they wish to see as President,so i hope they will be sincere in the answers they give.

I have seen the Republican nominees election promises on the BBC news site,and some really are radical. Those in the States that like what those nominess have to say,will put thier X where appropriate when the time comes. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-15949571.

A few on the debate board over there are interested in the Eurozone crisis. One asked me when Britain will pull out altogether,due to Germany and France having power via Brussels,i replied that the vote is unlikely to be offered to the people on that issue.

Mind you though,some posters get slightly tetchy when you ask about how much power the State has on everyday living (THE SORT OF SCHEMES AND PROGRAMMES LABOUR HAD WHEN IN OFFICE),and one poster stated to me.''we are Anti-State because we are,and it goes back a long way too''.

Some gossip on Newt....http://www.realchange.org/gingrich.htm

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