Kelle Roos joins on an emergency loan (ball over the line?)

Aaron D. · Dec 12, 2017

Graham Evans":29v0gb70 said:
I was right in line and had a perfect view , the ball was at least 6 inches over the line.

Thanks Graham, it was a goal then. Especially as other people in line have also said it was a goal.

justanotherfan · Dec 12, 2017

Frank_Butcher":8hrhe5qv said:
It was the linesman who made the decision - the ref looked over to him and he made a very animated 'no goal' signal. However, as I looked down at the point of the incident from Block 8, the lino was still in motion towards the touchline (understandably as he would have been monitoring the line of defence for offside). I can't see how he, or any linesman in such a situation can make that call reliably - not criticising, just saying it isn't possible.

The point is if neither official can categorically say it was a goal then they can`t give it, hence all the conjecture.

katkin · Dec 12, 2017

https://twitter.com/kellsroos/status/940236769374519297

PL2 3DQ · Dec 12, 2017

katkin":1kd3pm37 said:
https://twitter.com/kellsroos/status/940236769374519297

That photo is after Roos pulled the ball back and gathered it.

Keepitgreen · Dec 12, 2017

katkin":16519c3j said:
https://twitter.com/kellsroos/status/940236769374519297

That's after he's pulled it back.

Keepitgreen · Dec 12, 2017

Why would Charlie not show the only footage that would end this debate? Come on Charlie, don't worry about upsetting Gillingham. :lol: :lol:

katkin · Dec 12, 2017

His tweet is pretty tongue in cheek so probably was over! Doubt argyle will let Charlie show that!

X Isle · Dec 12, 2017

There's no probably about it.

As stated, the most damming evidence from MM is the absence of Home Park's very own Zapruta footage.

Argyle sy · Dec 13, 2017

To be fair I have only seen the highlights which were shown on Sky's EFL page, and it did look well over from that camera angle, but as others have said camera angles can be deceptive, so I just we will never know unless someone who was directly in line with the incident managed to capture footage of the incident.

Aaron D. · Dec 13, 2017

Argyle-sy":1fsyw0f7 said:
To be fair I have only seen the highlights which were shown on Sky's EFL page, and it did look well over from that camera angle, but as others have said camera angles can be deceptive, so I just we will never know unless someone who was directly in line with the incident managed to capture footage of the incident.

You say that, but I sit directly in line with the goal line and the posts exactly for this kind of situation. You have a view where it is very clear if the ball is over the line or not unless a body is in the way. I wasn't there on Saturday but others in line say it was over so for me that's better than any camera footage from an angle. That coupled with the absence of footage from the camera in goal from MM says to me it was a goal alright.

Maybe our luck is beginning to balance itself out...... :scarf:

Biggs · Dec 13, 2017

X Isle":2b0poy45 said:
There's no probably about it.

Come on, Smiffy. One thing we have established, is that it's not definitive either way.

This is still the best angle I've seen. If you look at the position of Roos' body you can get an idea of where the ball is, which to me is right above the goal line. I just cannot see from that how ALL of the ball is over the line, let alone 6 inches over.

At the very, very least.... it's not clear cut either way as you claim.

Keepitgreen · Dec 13, 2017

That's me circled. Better view than any camera half way down the pitch. We all agreed it was well over. That's my last post on it, over and out.

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Stiffler · Dec 13, 2017

Makes up for the bad luck we had with the Bradford goal; swings and roundabouts.

Biggs · Dec 13, 2017

Keepitgreen":1eht0ms6 said:
That's me circled. Better view than any camera half way down the pitch. We all agreed it was well over. That's my last post on it, over and out.

I don't see how sitting behind the goal offers a better angle, but yes... it wasn't given, so I/we probably don't need to expend so much energy analysing it!

Argyle sy · Dec 13, 2017

Aaron D.":2jnbmskj said:
Argyle-sy":2jnbmskj said:

To be fair I have only seen the highlights which were shown on Sky's EFL page, and it did look well over from that camera angle, but as others have said camera angles can be deceptive, so I just we will never know unless someone who was directly in line with the incident managed to capture footage of the incident.

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You say that, but I sit directly in line with the goal line and the posts exactly for this kind of situation. You have a view where it is very clear if the ball is over the line or not unless a body is in the way. I wasn't there on Saturday but others in line say it was over so for me that's better than any camera footage from an angle. That coupled with the absence of footage from the camera in goal from MM says to me it was a goal alright.

Maybe our luck is beginning to balance itself out...... :scarf:

Couldn't agree more Aaron. I have seen others who were in line say the ball was over, and from the video I have seen on the Sky EFL page it looks well over as well. Would say that these things tend to even themselves out over a season, but I can imagine had the incident been at the other end and it was Argyle that had not been awarded a goal then the consensus on here would be differernt.

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