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Aug 10, 2006
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up_the_line":2ep4lyd8 said:
Worst, most fickle, big game once a season support in the country
no there not they are the same at every other club up and down the country.
 
Apr 6, 2009
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All those 7000 gained the club £140000 so just get over it. If people only want to go to one game let them. As long as they aren't there just to cause trouble.
 
Mar 18, 2006
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up_the_line":2wn2ztcj said:
Worst, most fickle, big game once a season support in the country

There are a good number who couldn't afford to attend 2 games in 3 days, but to have more than 50% of supporters not returning is appalling.

Saturdays result wouldnt have helped, but even if we had won on Saturday the crowd will still have been less than 7,000 tonight.

They will be back on Boxing day, not before, and not after until possible promotion / play off games.

Its how its always been and how it always will be.
 
Mar 23, 2011
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Cost, fact that they witnessed a loss, Tuesday night game when there is school etc tomorrow, Champions league on and a good number of exiles who may have gone down won't have because its a Tuesday, plus Exeter bought about 700 more away fans. Not entirely un-expected.
 
Jul 29, 2010
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Mr Gillingham":1papored said:
And your point is?

...typical bleddy Argo :roll:

No Katkin, 7,000 x even a modest £20 a head is actually £140,000.

Now, that £140,000 extra over the other 22 home games would give Argyle well over £3,000,000... even more if you include the extra catering/programme and 50/50 monies etc..

I bear the missing 7,000+ no personal ill, I actually kinda 'get' the reasons why it happens. It's just a HUGELY frustrating catch 22 situation...

WITH that massive injection of gate revenue, the team would be much much better and you couldn't beat the 7,000+ off with a stick, they'd WANT to come back = a virtuous circle.

WITHOUT that massive injection of gate revenue the team is less good, so when they roll up it invariably falls flat on it's face and they walk away saying 'typical bleddy Argyle' = a self fulfilling brown tinted prophecy.

The fact they turn up and then go away again just gives a glimpse of what the club could be if they stayed. It's like a huge 'flashmob tease'. They show the club they're there and then b*gger off again.

Frustrating, that's the only word for it. All the understanding and all the historical precidence for it happening doesn't stop it being frustrating.
 

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To be honest you'll struggle to find to back to back home games of such poor quality. On reflection I don't blame anyone of them due to the poor performance on the pitch on Saturday.
 
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derbygreen":2cfzslvp said:
To be honest you'll struggle to find to back to back home games of such poor quality. On reflection I don't blame anyone of them due to the poor performance on the pitch on Saturday.

Saturdays performance would only have counted for a few hundred not returning tonight.
 
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Mr Gillingham":3sredyki said:
And your point is?

...typical bleddy Argo :roll:

No Katkin, 7,000 x even a modest £20 a head is actually £140,000.

Now, that £140,000 extra over the other 22 home games would give Argyle well over £3,000,000... even more if you include the extra catering/programme and 50/50 monies etc..

I bear the missing 7,000+ no personal ill, I actually kinda 'get' the reasons why it happens. It's just a HUGELY frustrating catch 22 situation...

WITH that massive injection of gate revenue, the team would be much much better and you couldn't beat the 7,000+ off with a stick, they'd WANT to come back = a virtuous circle.

WITHOUT that massive injection of gate revenue the team is less good, so when they roll up it invariably falls flat on it's face and they walk away saying 'typical bleddy Argyle' = a self fulfilling brown tinted prophecy.

The fact they turn up and then go away again just gives a glimpse of what the club could be if they stayed. It's like a huge 'flashmob tease'. They show the club they're there and then b*gger off again.

Frustrating, that's the only word for it. All the understanding and all the historical precidence for it happening doesn't stop it being frustrating.


Just about every club in the lower divisions could say the same thing about their local derbies attracting bigger gates than the bread and butter fixtures. Fact is that come the end of season, Argyle's gates are almost certain to be in the top three in the division, which is an ample base from which to finance a more than competitive team.
 
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derbygreen":h7guujdh said:
To be honest you'll struggle to find to back to back home games of such poor quality. On reflection I don't blame anyone of them due to the poor performance on the pitch on Saturday.

Saturdays performance would only have counted for a few hundred not returning tonight.

Have you supported Argyle for like a week? This happens every time we have the Derby!!!!
 
Jul 29, 2010
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Agreed Greenskin, but the scale of the figures can't be disputed. With them we'd be a very rich club, without them we're not. With them we'd be guarenteed a successful side, without them we're not.

The most frustating example was several years back (Martin Barlow era if memory serves) it went down to the last day, a game at home to Gillingham where if results went against us or we didn't win we'd go down. Now that WASN'T a local derby.

I made the point then that if those self same missing X thousands had been there all season then the extra £X M's would've produced a side that would never have been troubling the bottom of the league in the first place. It was like a load of mourners turning up to watch a funeral for someone they could all have saved from dying.
 
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Agreed Greenskin, but the scale of the figures can't be disputed. With them we'd be a very rich club, without them we're not. With them we'd be guarenteed a successful side, without them we're not.

The most frustating example was several years back (Martin Barlow era if memory serves) it went down to the last day, a game at home to Gillingham where if results went against us or we didn't win we'd go down. Now that WASN'T a local derby.

I made the point then that if those self same missing X thousands had been there all season then the extra £X M's would've produced a side that would never have been troubling the bottom of the league in the first place. It was like a load of mourners turning up to watch a funeral for someone they could all have saved from dying.


Well that's life really. Remember when Burnley had to beat Orient to stay in the football league? 18000 there when their previous gates had dropped to less than 2000 earlier in the season. Every club in the lower divisions with the exception of Pompey could say that "if only we had 8,9,10 thousand every week, what a team we could build". It doesn't work that way-clubs have to earn loyalty and build their fan bases from generation to generation in the way that clubs like Swansea, Hull, Brighton etc,who were all getting gates similar to ours, have done.