Quinny wrote: Well, that vote in Hartlepool was about as depressing as you could expect ... if you're a Labour voter. It can't be sugar-coated, or blamed on Brexit ... hand on heart, it's difficult to use the "vaccine bounce" as an excuse.
I think John Curtis got it bang-on correct on the radio a little earlier. If Labour are to get back into power, they have to lose the old tropes about being the party of the working class (wo)man, because this result ... and others, too, over past elections ... shows that, for many "working class" people the Labour Party no longer speaks for *them(.
It's time for Labour to actually speak to those who have turned away and find out why they've turned away. They need to reinvent themselves to make them relevant to voters. And I think they need to shift ground politically to align them more to the LibDems and Greens, because the only chance they have to booting the Tories out of No10 is by a coalition.
What's interesting (and I guess depressing if you're a Labour supporter) is that the Tories didn't just mop up the Brexit Party vote, Labour actually lost 9-10 points as well. Suggestions this was the impact of the Independent, but even if that is true you have to ask 'why?'.
Also notable early council results showing Greens doing well at the expense of (mainly) Labour. Will be watching that trend today.
Worryingly, the far left loonies are starting to re-emerge, while moderates saying Labour hasn't changed enough. This could yet get worse for Labour if the infighting begins in earnest.
I'm beginning to agree with the notion that a technology/ green agenda is the best bet for Labour, even in coalition if necessary. It would certainly cement the younger vote - but does go against the old world industrial view that so many in the party still hold.