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Re: Summertime?

Posted: 15:17 31 Jul 2019
by MickyD
Frank_Butcher wrote: But reporting must be done in a balanced way otherwise it's open to criticism.

Agreed but, as WIllis88 said up the page:
The biggest problem is these sceptics are given the time and space to spread their lies in the name of "balance"

Going by that 97% I quoted, in the interests of balance climate deniers should be given just 3% of the publicity. Fat chance of that when the likes of Trump and Bolsonaro, leaders of hugely climatologically significant countries, are actively destroying their own agencies' climate policies.

Re: Summertime?

Posted: 15:31 31 Jul 2019
by Frank_Butcher
TBH I think that is quite different. Willis88 was I'm sure referring to 'deniers' being given airtime. In this case we are talking about raw data which if not reported in a balanced way actually leaves it open to exploitation by those 'deniers'.

Re: Summertime?

Posted: 17:27 31 Jul 2019
by MickyD
No disagreement here, but Trump for one is an out-and-out vocal denier with a hugely powerful platform as well as an enabler of policies (general environmental as well as climate-specific) that are turning the clock back decades, and whose White House cronies have actively suppressed and watered down their own agencies' highly alarming climate data - exploited that raw data in a very unbalanced way, in other words.

Ahem, I didn't mean to turn this into a Trump thread... :oops:

Re: Summertime?

Posted: 11:51 01 Aug 2019
by Willis88
Frank_Butcher wrote: TBH I think that is quite different. Willis88 was I'm sure referring to 'deniers' being given airtime. In this case we are talking about raw data which if not reported in a balanced way actually leaves it open to exploitation by those 'deniers'.


Spot on Frank.

I've got no issue with a debate over the numbers, given that the debate focusses around the numbers and what they show.

What causes the concern are those who are just out-right deniers, people who will never be convinced no matter what they're told or shown (might change if their oil money dries up of course) being given the opportunity to fight their corner.

It'll be like a science show allowing the flat-earth society an opportunity to discuss their theory when everyone (and I'm sure even they) knows it's a load of twaddle.

The problem is where the money lays and how easily some people are corrupted. While the US election process can be controlled by big-oil, big-pharma, NRA etc they'll never change; the UK isn't this big shining beacon of reform it seems to think it is; China only cares about China so would happily let the world go down the drain as long as China doesn't miss out; the list goes on.

The policital classes around the world are failing us on this topic and our only hope is to get off of this rock and start again (ideally not repeating the mess we've made)