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Re: Classic Albums

Posted: 19:54 06 May 2020
by Devongreenowl
Have enjoyed reading your thoughts on some great albums and have already listened to some stuff I’ve never heard (of) before. That’s the beauty of music :cool:

My favourite album would have been Genesis - Selling England by the Pound. Always has been really. However, I recently bought the Beatles White Album 50th anniversary remaster. 50 years! Jesus!

Anyway, I’ve had the original for years and barely given it a listen because I thought the sound was crap. Not all remasters are good, but George Martin's son has done wonders on the Beatles stuff and certainly the White Album is a completely different listen. So that’s it for me, the White Album is my favourite album.

Any Owl has to love an album containing a track called Piggies anyway!! :whistle: :scarf:

Re: Classic Albums

Posted: 20:59 06 May 2020
by Green_Matt
Devongreenowl wrote:
GreenThing wrote:
PL2 3DQ wrote: Metallica - black album.


I’d personally go for And Justice for All, but that’s probably down to me being a guitarist. All that it needs is a bit of bass in it.


Whenever I mention the bass thing to my HIFI dealer, I get a funny look. It’s so important for good sound and I hate it when albums are light on it. I hate the production on Bowie's Berlin trilogy cos it all sounds a bit light weight. I know that’s almost sacrilege! :cool:

It isn't just light on AJFA, it's non-existent. A good album that would be much improved by some of tracks being shorter and having Newstead's bass restored.

Metallica's best albums by far are Ride the Lightning and Master of Puppets. However, for a thrash masterpiece to beat even those colossal efforts you need look no further than Rust In Peace by Megadeth.

Re: Classic Albums

Posted: 22:04 06 May 2020
by GreenThing
Green_Matt wrote:
Devongreenowl wrote:
GreenThing wrote:
PL2 3DQ wrote: Metallica - black album.


I’d personally go for And Justice for All, but that’s probably down to me being a guitarist. All that it needs is a bit of bass in it.


Whenever I mention the bass thing to my HIFI dealer, I get a funny look. It’s so important for good sound and I hate it when albums are light on it. I hate the production on Bowie's Berlin trilogy cos it all sounds a bit light weight. I know that’s almost sacrilege! :cool:

It isn't just light on AJFA, it's non-existent. A good album that would be much improved by some of tracks being shorter and having Newstead's bass restored.

Metallica's best albums by far are Ride the Lightning and Master of Puppets. However, for a thrash masterpiece to beat even those colossal efforts you need look no further than Rust In Peace by Megadeth.


Found a good video of AJFA with a guy adding the bass. Sounds really good. https://youtu.be/vumrar1k928

I’m not really clued up about Megadeth, but So Far, So Good, So What used to be a firm favourite on my Walkman while delivering the Herald on my way home from school. In My Darkest Hour a firm favourite. I’ll explore Rust in Peace a bit more, especially as I use sections of Hangar 18 as guitar exercises.

Re: Classic Albums

Posted: 22:29 06 May 2020
by PL2 3DQ
Green_Matt wrote:
Devongreenowl wrote:
GreenThing wrote:
PL2 3DQ wrote: Metallica - black album.


I’d personally go for And Justice for All, but that’s probably down to me being a guitarist. All that it needs is a bit of bass in it.


Whenever I mention the bass thing to my HIFI dealer, I get a funny look. It’s so important for good sound and I hate it when albums are light on it. I hate the production on Bowie's Berlin trilogy cos it all sounds a bit light weight. I know that’s almost sacrilege! :cool:

It isn't just light on AJFA, it's non-existent. A good album that would be much improved by some of tracks being shorter and having Newstead's bass restored.

Metallica's best albums by far are Ride the Lightning and Master of Puppets. However, for a thrash masterpiece to beat even those colossal efforts you need look no further than Rust In Peace by Megadeth.


Or Slayer's Reign In Blood opus.

Re: Classic Albums

Posted: 07:02 07 May 2020
by davegreenarmy
Devongreenowl wrote: Thanks Dave. This could get costly :cool: As a matter of interest how did you discover Treos so to speak?


Blimey I really can't remember. They were part of the Warped Tour with loads of bands that I love so maybe then. First time for in concert was 2007 at Give it a Name.

Out of interest why don't you have an Apple Music or Spotify account? Yes the songs can be a bit compressed at times but for a way to find lots of music (which delightfully you're an advocate for opening your ears) without spending a fortune they're fantastic tools to have.

To quote another of my favourite bands, Senses Fail:

"Find what you love and let the rest all go"

Re: Classic Albums

Posted: 07:35 07 May 2020
by ping_g5
Levelling the Land by to the Levellers. Saw them play the whole album live at pavilions a few years back... stunning.

Re: Classic Albums

Posted: 08:15 07 May 2020
by rsp4
Devongreenowl wrote:
rsp4 wrote:
Devongreenowl wrote:
rsp4 wrote: Does it have to come from.the 1001 album list?

If not mine is Marillion, Script for a jesters tear.

Super album, great songs and stunning cover as an album sleeve :scarf:


Good album. Many Genesis fans thought they were a bit of a tribute band. Personally, I sometimes wish that Fish had joined Genesis after Peter Gabriel left. That said, Phil Collins didn’t do a bad job. They were terrible when the guy from Stiltskin joined though.


Personally for me once Fish left that was Marillion over as far as I was concerned. Strange thing was I was never much of. Genesis fan and thought Marillion were a different set up. Strange how we all see things differently :thumbup:

Some good albums coming up on here, top thread


Yep, all about opinions for sure. Mind you, Fish himself says he was heavily influenced by Genesis and Grendel was their Suppers Ready. I always thought Heart of Lothian was very Genesis-like. He even made himself up a bit like Gabriel. Either way, a good band in their own right. Nothing wrong with having influences. Here’s a good interview with Fish if you haven’t previously read it.

https://www.loudersound.com/features/i- ... eaded-next



Thanks mate

Yea Grendel was the birth of them that's for sure, not heard often.
Thanks for the link. I have seen and heard quite a few interviews with him particularly recently as he was preparing for his final album and tour.

I have to say again, what a great thread started by you. I have never heard of some of the music discussed and being an old Rocker some of it is brilliant. Another thing I have never got is the love of David Bowie or the Beetle's. Both very good and the Beetle's probably started an era but for me going back then it have had to the stones.

Loving all the recommendations though l. Superb :nworthy:

Re: Classic Albums

Posted: 08:36 07 May 2020
by Devongreenowl
davegreenarmy wrote:
Devongreenowl wrote: Thanks Dave. This could get costly :cool: As a matter of interest how did you discover Treos so to speak?


Blimey I really can't remember. They were part of the Warped Tour with loads of bands that I love so maybe then. First time for in concert was 2007 at Give it a Name.

Out of interest why don't you have an Apple Music or Spotify account? Yes the songs can be a bit compressed at times but for a way to find lots of music (which delightfully you're an advocate for opening your ears) without spending a fortune they're fantastic tools to have.

To quote another of my favourite bands, Senses Fail:

"Find what you love and let the rest all go"


I did have apple tunes once for a tenner a month or whatever. I guess I was always one of those who liked to have the physical item, vinyl, cassette, cd etc and I still often buy the Vinyl AND cd of albums even today. I paid £7.99 to download TREOS for instance. Could have paid a tenner and been able to listen to all their albums and all the other great recommends on here, for free. More money than sense? Who knows mate, but I’m nearly 65 and still love music so much and hope I do until I shuffle off.

I still go to lots of gigs and sometimes feel a bit out of place if it’s a more contemporary band, but hey you only live once. I’ve never understood anybody who doesn’t love music in their life. And anybody who doesn’t like music OR football is just too weird for me to contemplate :cool:

Re: Classic Albums

Posted: 16:34 09 May 2020
by Devongreenowl
Wow, Little Richard has died aged 87. One of the big ones. Good age though :cool: :cool: :cool:

Re: Classic Albums

Posted: 19:39 09 May 2020
by MickyD
Maybe The End or Chelsea Girl by Nico - achingly beautiful melodies and soundscapes coupled with Nico's achingly beautiful delivery.

An acquired taste, perhaps, but worth the effort.

Listen to the full albums here and there.

Edit - oh, they're supposed to be in that 1001 book, aren't they? No idea if either is, but both should be! :clap:

Re: Classic Albums

Posted: 06:26 10 May 2020
by Devongreenowl
MickyD wrote: Maybe The End or Chelsea Girl by Nico - achingly beautiful melodies and soundscapes coupled with Nico's achingly beautiful delivery.

An acquired taste, perhaps, but worth the effort.

Listen to the full albums here and there.

Edit - oh, they're supposed to be in that 1001 book, aren't they? No idea if either is, but both should be! :clap:


The 1001 book was the criteria I set for myself Micky, so no problem at all. There have been quite a few on here that aren’t in it. Mind you, it’s a book I recommend to any music lover because you will definitely discover brilliant stuff that you otherwise would have never even known about.

Nico was and is an iconic figure due to her association with Velvet Underground, but she wasn’t that keen on the Chelsea Girl album herself!

“I still cannot listen to it, because everything I wanted for that record, they took it away. I asked for drums, they said no. I asked for more guitars, they said no. And I asked for simplicity, and they covered it in flutes! [...] They added strings and – I didn't like them, but I could live with them. But the flute! The first time I heard the album, I cried and it was all because of the flute.”

Personally, I like the flute! :cool:

Re: Classic Albums

Posted: 07:21 10 May 2020
by MickyD
Yes, I remember reading that quote myself once, particularly about crying over the flute. I like it too! :thumbup:

It would have been great to have also heard a version exactly as she wanted it, though.

Re: Classic Albums

Posted: 09:51 10 May 2020
by Devongreenowl
MickyD wrote: Yes, I remember reading that quote myself once, particularly about crying over the flute. I like it too! :thumbup:

It would have been great to have also heard a version exactly as she wanted it, though.


Sadly, won’t happen now. When I say I like the flute, it depends who's playing it! Never got Tull, but always liked the Gabriel and Crimson stuff. Probably makes me a Philistine! :cool: