Simple question for you then, as you're still missing the point.

Do you think racism is a problem in the modern world and do you think people so should all that's necessary to rid it, even if that includes kneeling down for 10 seconds before a football match?

It’s a clumsy word I know, but ‘entryism’ is a problem for so many organisations. Labour under Kinnock suffered from the Trots under Hatton, then recently with a radical section of Momentum turning them into an antisemitic party because of Corbyn’s weak leadership.

If the BLM organisation has been infused with members wishing to destroy capitalism, that’s very sad. However I doubt that many of the well-intentioned footballers who take the knee to show their stance against racism are aware of these shenanigans.

Quite, I don’t think many of the footballers espouse Marxist dialectical materialism or want to defund the police, leave that to the tories they’ve been doing it for a decade.
People here grasping at any straw to discredit those standing against racism, why are they doing it, what’s their motivation it doesn’t affect them?

Quite, I don’t think many of the footballers espouse Marxist dialectical materialism or want to defund the police, leave that to the tories they’ve been doing it for a decade.
People here grasping at any straw to discredit those standing against racism, why are they doing it, what’s their motivation it doesn’t affect them?

Exactly this.

I'm sure our fellow posters will be able to answer my question as to why they think racism isn't an issue any more.

Quite, I don’t think many of the footballers espouse Marxist dialectical materialism or want to defund the police, leave that to the tories they’ve been doing it for a decade.
People here grasping at any straw to discredit those standing against racism, why are they doing it, what’s their motivation it doesn’t affect them?

Just in case you were including me in that last statement, I want to be very clear that the only thing i felt discredited was your assertion that racism was behind the press treatment of one individual when in fact it could any number of things. It’s just that type of conflation that switches people off to the debate - you’re not alone but it really isn’t helpful. I would never attempt to discredit anyone standing against racism - in fact quite the opposite and that has always been the case and always will be.

It wasn’t my assertion it was Harry and Meghans who you don’t believe. You need to tell them they’re being unhelpful.

It wasn’t my assertion it was Harry and Meghans who you don’t believe. You need to tell them they’re being unhelpful.

Happily - can you set up a call?

I’m no royalist but even I wouldn’t inflict that on them.

I am neither royalist nor republican, apply a live and let live approach to life, and would not normally get sucked into any media frenzy about that institution, I really don't give a damn.

But the vilification of Meghan and Harry by our sensationalist right wing rags is abysmal. Neither of them are bad people, and their charity work around the world can only do good and inspire.

At first glance, if asked, I would not have guessed Meghan had black heritage, as if that mattered, yet these sensationalist rags, as well as other media outlets, kept banging on about it, highlighting or should I say creating a difference, that to some prods a stick into the traditionalist empirical royalist ribs, that their blue blooded, covert white superiority world was being invaded.

I am neither royalist nor republican, apply a live and let live approach to life, and would not normally get sucked into any media frenzy about that institution, I really don't give a damn.

But the vilification of Meghan and Harry by our sensationalist right wing rags is abysmal. Neither of them are bad people, and their charity work around the world can only do good and inspire.

At first glance, if asked, I would not have guessed Meghan had black heritage, as if that mattered, yet these sensationalist rags, as well as other media outlets, kept banging on about it, highlighting or should I say creating a difference, that to some prods a stick into the traditionalist empirical royalist ribs, that their blue blooded, covert white superiority world was being invaded.

This really struck a chord with me ME. Having enjoyed a life-long boredom of anything royalI I’ve always been blissfully unaware of all royal news, births, engagements etc. So it was only a few weeks ago I learned of the press attack on Meghan via the James O’Brien programme. I still wasn’t properly with it until my wife explained to me that she was considered a woman of colour because of her background, despite the fact that her colouring is similar to any southern Spanish, or southern Italian woman. In fact she is almost the twin of my eldest son’s first partner, who had an Indian father and an italian mother.

What saddens me is that the worst tabloids pander to what they believe to be the beliefs of their readership. Very depressing.

I'm not sure its necessarily that the tabloids think their readers will like this, rather that they can persuade the readers to think this way. When you remember that most of the press is owned by a handful of offshore based billionaires who pay no UK tax but donate hugely to the Conservative Party, its not surprising they will find enemies to whip up their readers fury against, be it foreigners, Brussels, teachers, doctors etc have all been targets, in order to keep the masses voting against their own interests.

I’m no royalist but even I wouldn’t inflict that on them.

Why would you say that? You don't know me.

You post an opinion in open forum. I take issue with your opinion. You attempt to justify. I explain why said justification is irrelevant. You say I should do something I evidently can't. I respond with humour. You petulantly lash out.

What is wrong with people?

I've concluded over time that it's a defence mechanism when there is no other argument to make - an admission of defeat really. C'est la vie - think what you like. But just remember, if you post something on a public messageboard, there are likely to be people who disagree with you.

Heat, kitchen and all that stuff.

Calm down Franky, i'm not "lashing out", I just think it would be unhelpful for you to be telling a black woman she's making up the racism her and her husband encounter every day.