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Fadz off topic sexism discussion

Posted: 17:55 27 Jun 2020
by Argylegames
WoodsyGreen wrote: Tell that to Fadz's girlfriend and Sarce's family.

I agree with that.

However it annoys the hell out of me. It is akin to women who marry members of the RN and then moan that he's always away!

Why get tied up to a footballer or a member of the armed services without thinking that they need to move to work? It goes with the territory FFS!

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Posted: 18:01 27 Jun 2020
by Tugboat
Argylegames wrote:
WoodsyGreen wrote: Tell that to Fadz's girlfriend and Sarce's family.

I agree with that.

However it annoys the hell out of me. It is akin to women who marry members of the RN and then moan that he's always away!

Why get tied up to a footballer or a member of the armed services without thinking that they need to move to work? It goes with the territory FFS!



Yep pi33 poor.

It’s not like the area is bad.

Just a waste of everyone’s time.

Re: McFadzean likely to sign tomorrow? (Herald report)

Posted: 01:02 28 Jun 2020
by Justin
Argylegames wrote:
WoodsyGreen wrote: Tell that to Fadz's girlfriend and Sarce's family.

I agree with that.

However it annoys the hell out of me. It is akin to women who marry members of the RN and then moan that he's always away!

Why get tied up to a footballer or a member of the armed services without thinking that they need to move to work? It goes with the territory FFS!


Do you have any idea how sexist this post is?

Re: McFadzean likely to sign tomorrow? (Herald report)

Posted: 06:31 28 Jun 2020
by GreenThing
Justin wrote:
Argylegames wrote:
WoodsyGreen wrote: Tell that to Fadz's girlfriend and Sarce's family.

I agree with that.

However it annoys the hell out of me. It is akin to women who marry members of the RN and then moan that he's always away!

Why get tied up to a footballer or a member of the armed services without thinking that they need to move to work? It goes with the territory FFS!


Do you have any idea how sexist this post is?


It’s not sexist. The point is this; if you marry someone whose job involves moving around the country every few years, don’t complain if you have to move house every few years. It would be the same for a bloke marrying a woman footballer.

Re: McFadzean likely to sign tomorrow? (Herald report)

Posted: 08:48 28 Jun 2020
by Andy_S
Justin wrote:
Argylegames wrote:
WoodsyGreen wrote: Tell that to Fadz's girlfriend and Sarce's family.

I agree with that.

However it annoys the hell out of me. It is akin to women who marry members of the RN and then moan that he's always away!

Why get tied up to a footballer or a member of the armed services without thinking that they need to move to work? It goes with the territory FFS!


Do you have any idea how sexist this post is?


It's not sexist, it's fact!

Re: McFadzean likely to sign tomorrow? (Herald report)

Posted: 09:59 28 Jun 2020
by Justin
Andy_S wrote:
Justin wrote:
Argylegames wrote:
WoodsyGreen wrote: Tell that to Fadz's girlfriend and Sarce's family.

I agree with that.

However it annoys the hell out of me. It is akin to women who marry members of the RN and then moan that he's always away!

Why get tied up to a footballer or a member of the armed services without thinking that they need to move to work? It goes with the territory FFS!


Do you have any idea how sexist this post is?


It's not sexist, it's fact!


:facepalm:

3McFadzean likely to sign tomorrow? (Herald report)

Posted: 22:18 28 Jun 2020
by Knibbsworth
Argylegames wrote:
WoodsyGreen wrote: Tell that to Fadz's girlfriend and Sarce's family.

I agree with that.

However it annoys the hell out of me. It is akin to women who marry members of the RN and then moan that he's always away!

Why get tied up to a footballer or a member of the armed services without thinking that they need to move to work? It goes with the territory FFS!


But if all of the armed forces had their choice of 92 potential bases in the England and Wales, and dozens more in Scotland...

How many lads from Liverpool, Birmingham, Glasgow or London would choose to go to East Anglia, Cumbria or Devon? The players discover Plymouth by accident, it isn't their reason for coming. The money and the contract offer is.

The majority of football players have girlfriends who they met they were teenagers or early twenties coming through at a club. Their roots are in the same mutual place: parents, grandparents, friends, favourite nightclubs, shops and restaurants.

We might think Plymouth is a great place to live, but we aren't living in a one or two bedroom flat with our family, friends, sometimes partner and children hundreds of miles away. If the choice comes in from an employer 20-50 miles away or less, after 12 months or more being away and alone it is going to be very tempting.

I don't really see how the situation with the armed forces is comparable. They aren't often given the choice, and their role and location is a bit more urgent than kicking a bag of air around to a few thousand spectators. If the country is at war, our helicopter and fighter pilots need to be in Afghanistan or Iraq, not choosing between Plymouth and a number of potential contract offers from the Lancashire and Yorkshire area doing exactly the same job for various salaries and bonuses.

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Posted: 07:44 29 Jun 2020
by Argylegames
Knibbsworth wrote: I don't really see how the situation with the armed forces is comparable.


Wrong end of the stick Knibbs.

I'm not comparing footballers with servicemen, I'm comparing their partners.

If your partner has the sort of job which means moving every so often, or being away for months on end, then either accept it or don't become that person's partner.
I have known loads of servicemen (mainly RN) whose partners left them because they were 'always away somewhere' so why did they not expect that? (Incredibly quite a few were submariners!) Same with footballers partners - he's got a new contact with xxx but it's 300 miles from mum! So you thought he was going to play for your home town team forever? :doh:

Re: McFadzean likely to sign tomorrow? (Herald report)

Posted: 07:57 29 Jun 2020
by Welwyn Pilgrim
My Mrs would love me to work and live at the other end of the country. :greensmile:

Re: McFadzean likely to sign tomorrow? (Herald report)

Posted: 08:55 29 Jun 2020
by rsp4
Justin wrote:
Andy_S wrote:
Justin wrote:
Argylegames wrote:
WoodsyGreen wrote: Tell that to Fadz's girlfriend and Sarce's family.

I agree with that.

However it annoys the hell out of me. It is akin to women who marry members of the RN and then moan that he's always away!

Why get tied up to a footballer or a member of the armed services without thinking that they need to move to work? It goes with the territory FFS!


Do you have any idea how sexist this post is?


It's not sexist, it's fact!


:facepalm:


Not sure why the facepalm. This is not sexist it's a statement of fact. This is the reason this pink and fluffy country is getting itself into all sorts of carp. People need to realise everyone has a Voice and opinion. That voice and opinion will not be agreed by all but it's not necessarily Sexist/ racist/ anti Muslim/ anti LBGT it's just an opinion.

As an ex matelot of 28 years and my son a soldier my wife would say the same. Why marry someone in the forces if you don't want to be apart.

The same for footballers and loads of other trades out there.

Back on topic it's up to Fadz and his wife. If they can't stick being apart then they must make the decision to toddle off back home and find another team.

I would be disappointed but fully understand the reasons. Not as disappointed as losing Sarcs mind.

Once Cooper found his place Fadz was.a squad player. Not having Fadz or Coops will make a big hole

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Posted: 09:14 29 Jun 2020
by Devongreenowl
Total respect for the 28 years Rsp, but you can’t really compare the two. I managed 7 in the mob and came out mainly because I felt it was no life for a married man - not in my branch anyway, where it was 2.5 years at sea, 6 months ashore, repeat.

That said, one of my best mates was in the Fleet air arm for 22 years. Only had one ship in that time and spent most of his Navy life at Portland. So yes, a very settled life for them.

I suppose in Sarce case, he’s coming towards the end of his career and has apparently had a better offer near his home town, so who can blame him for going back. Not good enough for L1 anyway.

I think a lot of the young players are like young matelots. They go where the work is and their wives/girlfriends come with them. It’s only later when there are kids etc that I guess the pull of home and grandparents, aunties and uncles perhaps takes over. Who can blame them if they have a strong family ethic.

Re: McFadzean likely to sign tomorrow? (Herald report)

Posted: 09:25 29 Jun 2020
by oldage
rsp4 wrote:
Justin wrote:
Andy_S wrote:
Justin wrote:
Argylegames wrote:
WoodsyGreen wrote: Tell that to Fadz's girlfriend and Sarce's family.

I agree with that.

However it annoys the hell out of me. It is akin to women who marry members of the RN and then moan that he's always away!

Why get tied up to a footballer or a member of the armed services without thinking that they need to move to work? It goes with the territory FFS!


Do you have any idea how sexist this post is?


It's not sexist, it's fact!


:facepalm:


Not sure why the facepalm. This is not sexist it's a statement of fact. This is the reason this pink and fluffy country is getting itself into all sorts of carp. People need to realise everyone has a Voice and opinion. That voice and opinion will not be agreed by all but it's not necessarily Sexist/ racist/ anti Muslim/ anti LBGT it's just an opinion.

As an ex matelot of 28 years and my son a soldier my wife would say the same. Why marry someone in the forces if you don't want to be apart.

The same for footballers and loads of other trades out there.

Back on topic it's up to Fadz and his wife. If they can't stick being apart then they must make the decision to toddle off back home and find another team.

I would be disappointed but fully understand the reasons. Not as disappointed as losing Sarcs mind.

Once Cooper found his place Fadz was.a squad player. Not having Fadz or Coops will make a big hole

Couldn't agree more with your first paragraph.Why is it that you are entitled to free speech as long as it doesn"t offend anybody? Too many people are quick to play the discrimination card . Very few people have a job for life and a lot of careers involve being away from from friends and family.That's life!

Re: McFadzean likely to sign tomorrow? (Herald report)

Posted: 13:19 29 Jun 2020
by Justin
rsp4 wrote:
Justin wrote:
Andy_S wrote:
Justin wrote:
Argylegames wrote:
WoodsyGreen wrote: Tell that to Fadz's girlfriend and Sarce's family.

I agree with that.

However it annoys the hell out of me. It is akin to women who marry members of the RN and then moan that he's always away!

Why get tied up to a footballer or a member of the armed services without thinking that they need to move to work? It goes with the territory FFS!


Do you have any idea how sexist this post is?


It's not sexist, it's fact!


:facepalm:


Not sure why the facepalm. This is not sexist it's a statement of fact. This is the reason this pink and fluffy country is getting itself into all sorts of carp. People need to realise everyone has a Voice and opinion. That voice and opinion will not be agreed by all but it's not necessarily Sexist/ racist/ anti Muslim/ anti LBGT it's just an opinion.

As an ex matelot of 28 years and my son a soldier my wife would say the same. Why marry someone in the forces if you don't want to be apart.

The same for footballers and loads of other trades out there.

Back on topic it's up to Fadz and his wife. If they can't stick being apart then they must make the decision to toddle off back home and find another team.

I would be disappointed but fully understand the reasons. Not as disappointed as losing Sarcs mind.

Once Cooper found his place Fadz was.a squad player. Not having Fadz or Coops will make a big hole


The more you explain the bigger the hole you're digging yourself.

The perspective is purely from the man's side in the example given.

For starters - a 101:

What if the woman wants a career?
What if the woman already has a career?
Why should the man's career dominate?
Why is the only choice in your version of life to suit the man?