UK isolated as other nations ban travellers from the UK.

Dover port closed for at least 48 hours to restrict the reported new strain of the virus creating further strain on freight transport with impacts on exports and imports.

Oh yes and still no trade deal in place with the EU.

Merry Christmas everyone.

UK isolated as other nations ban travellers from the UK.

Dover port closed for at least 48 hours to restrict the reported new strain of the virus creating further strain on freight transport with impacts on exports and imports.

Oh yes and still no trade deal in place with the EU.

Merry Christmas everyone.

What a carp year 2020 has been. Here's to a better 2021!

UK isolated as other nations ban travellers from the UK.

Dover port closed for at least 48 hours to restrict the reported new strain of the virus creating further strain on freight transport with impacts on exports and imports.

Oh yes and still no trade deal in place with the EU.

Merry Christmas everyone.

What a carp year 2020 has been. Here's to a better 2021!

Hopefully, but Covid is still here, and we will out of the EU. Very tough times STILL

My fear is that next year’s frustrations will reach a new level, despite the arrival of the vaccine. I’ve now read/heard three leading economists predicting a huge surge in the world economy next year, something that as the sixth leading economy we would normally benefit from. Their forecast is based upon normal life returning, co-incident with unprecedented levels of world savings, with huge banks of cash lying unspent as a consequence of the lockdown.

So, a world economic boom just as we have extracted ourselves from easy trading with 46% of our total trade. Yes, we can create fairly fast new deals with small economies like Norway, Finland etc, but history tells us that deals with major economies like the U.S., Korea, Australia take years. Even our recent Japan deal took three years. Great timing.

My fear is that next year’s frustrations will reach a new level, despite the arrival of the vaccine. I’ve now read/heard three leading economists predicting a huge surge in the world economy next year, something that as the sixth leading economy we would normally benefit from. Their forecast is based upon normal life returning, co-incident with unprecedented levels of world savings, with huge banks of cash lying unspent as a consequence of the lockdown.

So, a world economic boom just as we have extracted ourselves from easy trading with 46% of our total trade. Yes, we can create fairly fast new deals with small economies like Norway, Finland etc, but history tells us that deals with major economies like the U.S., Korea, Australia take years. Even our recent Japan deal took three years. Great timing.

I can understand the remain side wishing to paint a bad picture about future trade but the point that your trying by quoting certain countries shows u are wrong . First the uk signed a memorandum of recognition with the usa and Australia to ensure trade continues as per. A trade agreement has been signed with South Korea japan Canada.
We have some sort of agreements for 40 per cent of the top ten countries by Gdp 30 per cent of all the countries within the world. Plus sixty per cent of the countries needed to join the tpp 8agreement.

Yes some of the countries are small like you say Norway but with 59 countries signed up we can get anything the eu can provide us. As I have said before trade will not stop overnight it will continue albeit with tariffs. Whilst they say ah but the EU is larger it is in geography and population but the uk is greater in trade for them so it makes sense for an agreement

My fear is that next year’s frustrations will reach a new level, despite the arrival of the vaccine. I’ve now read/heard three leading economists predicting a huge surge in the world economy next year, something that as the sixth leading economy we would normally benefit from. Their forecast is based upon normal life returning, co-incident with unprecedented levels of world savings, with huge banks of cash lying unspent as a consequence of the lockdown.

So, a world economic boom just as we have extracted ourselves from easy trading with 46% of our total trade. Yes, we can create fairly fast new deals with small economies like Norway, Finland etc, but history tells us that deals with major economies like the U.S., Korea, Australia take years. Even our recent Japan deal took three years. Great timing.

I can understand the remain side wishing to paint a bad picture about future trade but the point that your trying by quoting certain countries shows u are wrong . First the uk signed a memorandum of recognition with the usa and Australia to ensure trade continues as per. A trade agreement has been signed with South Korea japan Canada.
We have some sort of agreements for 40 per cent of the top ten countries by Gdp 30 per cent of all the countries within the world. Plus sixty per cent of the countries needed to join the tpp 8agreement.

Yes some of the countries are small like you say Norway but with 59 countries signed up we can get anything the eu can provide us. As I have said before trade will not stop overnight it will continue albeit with tariffs. Whilst they say ah but the EU is larger it is in geography and population but the uk is greater in trade for them so it makes sense for an agreement

I hope you’re right Signals. My worry is that a trade deal is only the first act. Extra trading only starts when businesses go out and create customers. From my own experience creating a new overseas customer is a slow, arduous business, whereas it’s very easy to lose an existing customer overnight if tarrifs go up, deliveries get extended, or prices go up to cover extra admin costs.

My fear is that next year’s frustrations will reach a new level, despite the arrival of the vaccine. I’ve now read/heard three leading economists predicting a huge surge in the world economy next year, something that as the sixth leading economy we would normally benefit from. Their forecast is based upon normal life returning, co-incident with unprecedented levels of world savings, with huge banks of cash lying unspent as a consequence of the lockdown.

So, a world economic boom just as we have extracted ourselves from easy trading with 46% of our total trade. Yes, we can create fairly fast new deals with small economies like Norway, Finland etc, but history tells us that deals with major economies like the U.S., Korea, Australia take years. Even our recent Japan deal took three years. Great timing.

I can understand the remain side wishing to paint a bad picture about future trade but the point that your trying by quoting certain countries shows u are wrong . First the uk signed a memorandum of recognition with the usa and Australia to ensure trade continues as per. A trade agreement has been signed with South Korea japan Canada.
We have some sort of agreements for 40 per cent of the top ten countries by Gdp 30 per cent of all the countries within the world. Plus sixty per cent of the countries needed to join the tpp 8agreement.

Yes some of the countries are small like you say Norway but with 59 countries signed up we can get anything the eu can provide us. As I have said before trade will not stop overnight it will continue albeit with tariffs. Whilst they say ah but the EU is larger it is in geography and population but the uk is greater in trade for them so it makes sense for an agreement

Just because we have trade deals does not mean we don’t have poor/bad trade deals. Are the deals any better than what we already had. Did we get as good a deal for the vaccines (that work) than the eu bloc? Did we get a relatively good deal with the US, Japan etc or are we celebrating mediocrity?
We’ve already learned that Westminster will not continue assistance to Cornwall that was coming from Europe and again we’ve heard that we need X3 immigrants to pick our fruit and veg. We’ve also been told to expect price rises in the supermarkets, assuming they have got what we want.

We’ve also been banned from European travel which because we’re a small island is easy to keep us contained.

Merry Christmas everyone.

Isn’t it very strange, that we are told that the deal we have had with the EU for the last 40 years, is so bad, for us, as we do not have sovereignty and can’t control our borders, and we are controlled by Brussels.

So now we could go into another organisation being controlled by the, WTO and bad tariffs, and be very worse off.

You would think it should be the other way round, leave a bad WTO organisation, to a better organisation like the EU.

Isn’t it very strange, that we are told that the deal we have had with the EU for the last 40 years, is so bad, for us, as we do not have sovereignty and can’t control our borders, and we are controlled by Brussels.

So now we could go into another organisation being controlled by the, WTO and bad tariffs, and be very worse off.

You would think it should be the other way round, leave a bad WTO organisation, to a better organisation like the EU.

EXACTLY .... EXACTLY.

It is as blatantly obvious as saying night follows day or that walking out in the rain you get wet - to say that erecting barriers & borders & checks & regulations & red-tape will incur costs , will damage trade and will make us poorer.

Never in History have two parties engaged in complex trade negotiations specifically to INCREASE the barriers between them. Never has so much time and energy been devoted to negotiating a treaty both sides know will make them poorer economically and reduce their political clout.

The stupidity is breath-taking. But that's what you get from flag waving nationalism.

News conference from PM sometime this evening, hopefully, to tell us the opening up the freight route to Europe is happening. Edit - no, maybe later then!

40 countries now banning arrivals from UK. Not how I reckon the leavers envisaged the "taking back control" working out. Seems like this island has lost control.

It's times like these we could really do with help from close friends and allies ..... as an EU commissioner pointed out we would have had access to the EU's €750 billion Covid fund. But the upside of Brexit is we've got blue passports now
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/e ... d=BingNews

Just read this from Robert Preston - he's stating the 'bleedin' obvious' but clearly it needs to be stated. We end the year in the perfect storm of a global pandemic, inept incompetent leadership and the appalling, self-harming madness of Brexit

"We are back in a full scale economic crisis.

In London and the south-east, the richest part of the UK and engine of the economy, normal commerce has been suspended by the imposition of Tier 4.

And the decision of much of the EU and a growing number of rich countries to put the whole UK into quarantine is devastating trade.

What are the immediate priorities?

Probably the most important one is basic: the creation of a facility to give rapid Covid-19 tests to all lorry drivers leaving the UK, so that the transport of freight can be restarted as quickly as possible.

Second, to end the cancerous uncertainty for businesses about how they will be buying from and selling to EU countries in just 10 days time, after the transition to full Brexit ends.

Right now, the border closure means importers and exporters are frantically trying to work out how to ship anything.

So it is grotesquely irresponsible to keep them in the dark about what will be the terms of trade on January 1 with customers in their biggest market. "

It's times like these we could really do with help from close friends and allies ..... as an EU commissioner pointed out we would have had access to the EU's €750 billion Covid fund. But the upside of Brexit is we've got blue passports now
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/e ... d=BingNews

Just read this from Robert Preston - he's stating the 'bleedin' obvious' but clearly it needs to be stated. We end the year in the perfect storm of a global pandemic, inept incompetent leadership and the appalling, self-harming madness of Brexit

"We are back in a full scale economic crisis.

In London and the south-east, the richest part of the UK and engine of the economy, normal commerce has been suspended by the imposition of Tier 4.

And the decision of much of the EU and a growing number of rich countries to put the whole UK into quarantine is devastating trade.

What are the immediate priorities?

Probably the most important one is basic: the creation of a facility to give rapid Covid-19 tests to all lorry drivers leaving the UK, so that the transport of freight can be restarted as quickly as possible.

Second, to end the cancerous uncertainty for businesses about how they will be buying from and selling to EU countries in just 10 days time, after the transition to full Brexit ends.

Right now, the border closure means importers and exporters are frantically trying to work out how to ship anything.

So it is grotesquely irresponsible to keep them in the dark about what will be the terms of trade on January 1 with customers in their biggest market. "

I think you will find he is Robert Peston and he only has an opinion on what is happening the same as posters on this site having opinions on Argyle . Why trust his biased reporting?
A lot of journalists and news editors actually seem to delight in presenting all the doom and gloom.

I think you will find he is Robert Peston and he only has an opinion on what is happening the same as posters on this site having opinions on Argyle . Why trust his biased reporting?
A lot of journalists and news editors actually seem to delight in presenting all the doom and gloom.

If you don't like someone's reporting it must be biased. Riiiiight.

Journalists report all the doom and gloom, as you so quaintly put it (and wasn't Boris just an oratorical genius when he came up with "doomsters and gloomsters"?) because it's their job to speak truth to power, and to inform the public of the facts whether the news is good or bad.

Well, I must qualify that: it's true of real journalists who retain their integrity, which rules out most of the British press straight away - including Johnson himself, of course, when he was a "journalist" who kept getting sacked for lying. Great prime minister material.