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Re: Brexit Island

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by oldage
» 10:32 28 Dec 2020


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Pilgrim_Joe wrote:
mervyn wrote:
MickyD wrote:
mervyn wrote:
signalspast wrote:
mervyn wrote: According to the BBC’s genuinely independent ‘facts check’ dept, New Zealand will have easier customs access to the EU on foodstuffs than the UK. I suspect as days go by this deal will start to look thinner and thinner.


Merv whilst I dont consider the bbc to be impartial over brexit I would be I interested in seeing what they have to say could you please post a link.
Also what do you think of rhe new scheme in place or erasmus as I know it was one of the things that bothered you by brexit.


Don’t have a link signals, but I’m pretty sure I heard it mentioned on the today programme. I know for certain I heard it, but I listen to so much radio that I can’t be precise about the source. You’ve read my mind about the Erasmus replacement scheme. I’ve been trying to find details, as has my daughter, (she’s a teacher who has organised Erasmus exchanges for her students), but neither of us can find any info yet.

We're going to get a shiny new "Turing" scheme, theoretically beginning in September 2021.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new- ... ork-abroad


Thanks for that. Let’s hope they mean what they say.



Glad my youngest arranged their own flights etc and is halfway through the third year now. Won't have to do a 5th year.

Hopefully the Turing scheme will be a good as the Erasmus scheme which is a truly fantastic opportunity for people from all backgrounds :thumbs:

The privileged few.

Re: Brexit Island

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by mervyn
» 11:46 28 Dec 2020


The privileged few.[/quote]

Your ignorance here is staggering Oldage. Far from being the privileged few, Erasmus, and hopefully its’ successor, is a brilliant way of giving working class kids learning opportunities overseas their parents could never have dreamed of. My daughter teaches in one of the most deprived parts of the east end, yet she has placed bright local kids into some of Europe’s leading universities, giving them an amazing start in life. It works in reverse too. Five years ago she received an Azbekistan girl without a word of English, and parents about as poor as it could get. In September last she went up to Cambridge! Sharing educational opportunities is all about levelling up, not the privileged few, and you really must think before you post old chap.
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Re: Brexit Island

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by oldage
» 13:34 28 Dec 2020


I left off the ? and stand corrected.

Re: Brexit Island

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by Pilgrim_Joe
» 15:21 28 Dec 2020


Glad my youngest arranged their own flights etc and is halfway through the third year now. Won't have to do a 5th year.

Hopefully the Turing scheme will be a good as the Erasmus scheme which is a truly fantastic opportunity for people from all backgrounds :thumbs:


The privileged few - Oldage

Nothing could be further from the truth pal.

I most definitely was not privileged in my upbringing and neither were my children.

Everything we have is due to hard graft.

My children were bright, worked hard and got into university.

They were sharp enough to realise what a magnificent opportunity Erasmus gave them.

Thankfully the youngest saw sense went to France anyway this year and will now see the benefit of not only improving in language, but also a broadening of horizons.

I view Boris's removal of Erasmus after saying it wasn't under threat the same way I viewed the tuiton fee rises - a betrayal of young people.

Still a liar can't change their spots I suppose
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Re: Brexit Island

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by Balham_Green
» 18:48 28 Dec 2020


Pottypilgrim wrote:
Balham_Green wrote:
Pottypilgrim wrote:
Martyn wrote: Another really sad day in this saddest of years.

For Bojo to gloat in his comments, and say it is a good deal, then the content will be in the detail, if it is a good deal for Johnson, then it must be a bad deal for the country.

I mean he has not had a good year for doing detail or anything, and maybe, maybe he might do another u turn and we might re-enter the EU.

Nothing will even change in me, that , leaving the EU, is one of the biggest mistakes this country has ever made.made.

Really sad day.


:facepalm: Your logic never fails to amaze me. I think leaving the EU will be one of the best decisions this Country has ever made. I accept that it will take time for the benefits to manifest themselves though especially after going through such a huge change. As with all change there is normally a dip in performance/output etc but once we get used to the new way of doing things then I'm sure we will prosper as a nation.


Potty you seem very sure without being specific in any way. I would be interested in one example. What do you see as the biggest benefit?


Can't say what would be the biggest benefit because that is a matter of opinion, subjective and different for different people. For me personally and I imagine for many victims of crime, not being part of the European Court of Justice would be a big benefit. To not have another court and another Judge in another Country overrule a judgement made by a British Judge in a British court is a big benefit of leaving the EU in my opinion.


Well sorry to disappoint you Potty but ECJ NEVER had the power to 'overrule Judgement made by a British Judge' on uk criminal law which I assume you are referring to. Pity you and many others didn't do their research first. Appreciate this will come as a big shock to you as you rated it such an important benefit and sorry to hear you were a victim of crime.
On the contrary my concern is crime will be more difficult to detect with less cooperation between European agencies.? :facepalm:
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