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Re: Donald Trump

Posted: 12:58 08 Mar 2020
by MickyD
I think that Trump is well on the way to being shown up as the incompetent ignoramus that so "many people" ;) have long known him to be. His worshippers can surely hold out only so long if things get as bad as they're likely to, given the almost non-existent response over there thanks to Trump's terror of bad economic results damaging his reelection chances. (But at least it will give him a ready-made if totally bogus excuse if he does lose.)

Then again, I saw a clip only yesterday of a Trump fan who was convinced that it was all - yes - a hoax. And for why? Because she doesn't believe a word that the Democrats say. Sorry, dear, but viruses are strictly neutral politically, and Trumpworld spin won't slow it down - quite the opposite, in fact, because people like you will take no precautions.

Oh, I've just had an awful thought. What if the virus is still rampant, or has come back in force, by November? Voter suppression by conveniently closing polling stations predominantly in high Democrat-voting areas? Or, even worse, god forbid - a national state of emergency is declared, cancelling the election altogether and imposing martial law, which somehow remains in place long after the threat has passed?

Let's not pretend that things like that can't happen in Trump's America. If I've just thought of them then someone in the administration sure as hell got there before me. Depending on how things pan out, far from leading to Trump's downfall, the outbreak may yet be used to keep him in power in ways that we hadn't even imagined.

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: 05:20 09 Mar 2020
by Ade the green
MickyD wrote: I think that Trump is well on the way to being shown up as the incompetent ignoramus that so "many people" ;) have long known him to be. His worshippers can surely hold out only so long if things get as bad as they're likely to, given the almost non-existent response over there thanks to Trump's terror of bad economic results damaging his reelection chances. (But at least it will give him a ready-made if totally bogus excuse if he does lose.)

Then again, I saw a clip only yesterday of a Trump fan who was convinced that it was all - yes - a hoax. And for why? Because she doesn't believe a word that the Democrats say. Sorry, dear, but viruses are strictly neutral politically, and Trumpworld spin won't slow it down - quite the opposite, in fact, because people like you will take no precautions.

Oh, I've just had an awful thought. What if the virus is still rampant, or has come back in force, by November? Voter suppression by conveniently closing polling stations predominantly in high Democrat-voting areas? Or, even worse, god forbid - a national state of emergency is declared, cancelling the election altogether and imposing martial law, which somehow remains in place long after the threat has passed?

Let's not pretend that things like that can't happen in Trump's America. If I've just thought of them then someone in the administration sure as hell got there before me. Depending on how things pan out, far from leading to Trump's downfall, the outbreak may yet be used to keep him in power in ways that we hadn't even imagined.



I did see Trump's propaganda ministry bigging up his response to the virus and in many ways, if reported impartially would also give credit to others. The obvious one being how he signed a $8.5b funding to fight the outbreak and to subsidise the federal government buying over $3b worth of the vaccine when it arrives in order to drive down the cost. What they don't say is that Trump wanted only $2.5b towards the crisis and congress elected to finance more.
I have every expectation that Trump will shill the budget to work $5b towards his wall.
The good news however is whilst everyone is avoiding handshakes, Trump in his own show of strength is shaking hands with anyone and everyone he meets now. (fingers crossed).
Also, an attendee at a major GoP event has since been tested and found to be positive for the bug.

I am still of an opinion that Biden will be every bit as bad a Potus as Trump and his lying takes on a life of it's own when in reality the things he lies about are meaningless which worries me that he would be equally false as Trump is. An example is how when he visited Mandela that he was arrested for refusing to enter a government building through the whites only door whilst Nelson had at the time to enter through the black door. All this has been refuted by those that were there and begs the question why do you say these things? The major fact checkers won't be retiring should Biden win against Trump in November.

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: 08:16 09 Mar 2020
by MickyD
In fairness I should have said that Trump's response has been almost non-existent. He still seems to be in total denial, at least in public - which means that many of his supporters are, too, because they're still hanging on to the belief that he can be trusted. Others are belatedly moving now, despite rather than at the behest of the Commander in Cheat.

I do worry a bit about Biden's propensity for porkies (yes, why on earth lie about that Mandela stuff?) but unlike Trump he's a fundamentally decent person and I'm not in the least concerned that a Biden presidency, should it happen, would look anything like the horrors we've been witnessing these last few years.

Anyway, however imperfect Biden may be, if he wins the nomination he will be literally the only alternative to a second-term Trump, which is a prospect that just doesn't bear thinking about. Biden is far better than a sack of spuds, and a sack of spuds would make a far better president than Trump.

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: 21:45 09 Mar 2020
by MickyD
Trump toadie Senator Ted Cruz and some other geezer whose name I can't remember, plus truly awful human beings Congressmen Doug Collins and Matt Gaetz (the man with the world's most punchable smug-frat-boy-trust-fund-kid face) are now self-isolating following news that they came into contact with an infected person at a Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) on the 27th February that was also attended by none other than the denier in chief, Donald Trump.

Until recently needy attention-whore Gaetz had a very different and far more Trump-friendly take on all this virus nonsense. Here's his hilarious comment on the hoo-ha just last Thursday while actually, really, genuinely on duty in the House of Representatives as he and his colleagues voted on the coronavirus response bill - before one of his own constituents inconveniently died from the infection:

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Unmasked and punchable (if I were inclined to such things, which I'm not):

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Re: Donald Trump

Posted: 00:49 11 Mar 2020
by Ade the green
MickyD wrote: Trump toadie Senator Ted Cruz and some other geezer whose name I can't remember, plus truly awful human beings Congressmen Doug Collins and Matt Gaetz (the man with the world's most punchable smug-frat-boy-trust-fund-kid face) are now self-isolating following news that they came into contact with an infected person at a Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) on the 27th February that was also attended by none other than the denier in chief, Donald Trump.

Until recently needy attention-whore Gaetz had a very different and far more Trump-friendly take on all this virus nonsense. Here's his hilarious comment on the hoo-ha just last Thursday while actually, really, genuinely on duty in the House of Representatives as he and his colleagues voted on the coronavirus response bill - before one of his own constituents inconveniently died from the infection:

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Unmasked and punchable (if I were inclined to such things, which I'm not):

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With news that Trump is ignoring his own government's advice regarding shaking hands, can I place on record that I have no problem at all with Trump French kissing everyone as a form of welcome and can he start with Doug Collins and Matt Gaetz.
I also think he should make a presidential visit to the Cruise Ship in Portland and show his support by giving all those with the virus a big hug.

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: 11:49 11 Mar 2020
by MickyD
I'm going to have to take my laptop in for repair now - the keyboard is full of sick at the thought of Trump French kissing any other human being, let alone Collins and Gaetz.

Following last night's primaries it looks as if Biden is pretty much a dead cert for the nomination now, perhaps barring a truly disastrous performance in the forthcoming one-on-one debate if it goes ahead. I think the only question remaining is whether Bernie will bow out gracefully or continue to attack Biden in what has turned out to be a rather less than graceful way.

Biden made a very disciplined and presidential-sounding speech last night but with truly unbelievable gall, Trump and his campaign are attacking him for being "confused". Talk about pot and kettle: if you can bear it (and it is quite painful to see so many in sequence), have a look at this Trump's Best Words 2019 compilation put together by the Daily Show. This is just for the year of 2019, don't forget.

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: 13:53 11 Mar 2020
by Ade the green
MickyD wrote: I'm going to have to take my laptop in for repair now - the keyboard is full of sick at the thought of Trump French kissing any other human being, let alone Collins and Gaetz.

Following last night's primaries it looks as if Biden is pretty much a dead cert for the nomination now, perhaps barring a truly disastrous performance in the forthcoming one-on-one debate if it goes ahead. I think the only question remaining is whether Bernie will bow out gracefully or continue to attack Biden in what has turned out to be a rather less than graceful way.

Biden made a very disciplined and presidential-sounding speech last night but with truly unbelievable gall, Trump and his campaign are attacking him for being "confused". Talk about pot and kettle: if you can bear it (and it is quite painful to see so many in sequence), have a look at this Trump's Best Words 2019 compilation put together by the Daily Show. This is just for the year of 2019, don't forget.



Sorry about that. You can send me the repair bill.

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: 15:47 11 Mar 2020
by MickyD
Th&t'a vxrru kibd if ypu,

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: 10:37 12 Mar 2020
by MickyD
So, amongst the usual self-aggrandisement, blame-spreading and disinformation during his address to the nation regarding the "foreign virus", Trump imposes a travel ban to and from all of Europe, but bizarrely excludes the UK (because we speak English?) and still imposes no ban on South Korea. No mention either of not shaking hands (because he still does it?) and no mention of hugely increasing testing.

Irregardless ( ;)), at least he used the word "pandemic" and it was quite some pivot from the "Democrat/fakenoozmeeja hoax" nonsense; although in typical fashion it was heavy on keeping foreigners out and light on actually dealing with the crisis that's already set to explode in his own country regardless of who can no longer enter.

Unsurprisingly it was an error-strewn, unfocused mess that caused as much alarm as it allayed; but at least the MAGA hat brigade might have had their blind confidence dented just a bit. It's not a hoax, and their man is a cretin.

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: 06:19 13 Mar 2020
by Mike E
It's no coincidence that he owns golf courses in UK and Ireland and, true to the narcissistic nature of his whole presidency, he must somehow believe it would affect his own personal business here.

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: 06:40 13 Mar 2020
by Andy_S
We can keep our fingers crossed!

Trump was standing right next to some Brazilian official who has since been confirmed as having CV.

He is refusing to have a test!

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: 10:36 13 Mar 2020
by MickyD
Having Trump off the scene for a week or two would probably save a lot of lives, as long as his wranglers kept his phone away from him. (I'm not going to say that I'd hope he wouldn't recover...)

I've heard this morning that HHS Secretary Alex Azar has been holding back the worst news from Trump for fear of angering him, and that Trump himself has made it crystal clear all along that he doesn't want to see mass testing because he knows that the numbers would rise enormously and potentially damage his reelection chances. I can't be the only one, can I, whose reaction to that news is: well, duhhh! That's been about the only certainty right from the very start of this sorry SNAFU.

Good point, Mike, although the wording in the initial address specifically said that only the UK was exempt - but when you stop and think about it, Trump and his speech writers probably thought that Ireland is part of the UK anyway. Leo Varadkar yesterday, druring one of those excrucitating live joint press conferences at the White House, used Trump's confusion and ignorance in response to the question of Irish exemption to state for himself that Ireland was indeed exempt - so the Irish PM exempted his own country on the fly, on live TV, because the US president didn't know what he'd said himself in his address to the nation the night before. I would say that's unbelievable but it's not at all, is it?

Speaking of unbelievable, it very quickly emerged that the European travel ban was made with no prior consultation with the countries or even with the airlines. Some panicked Americans were reportedly paying up to $20,000 for a ticket at Paris CDG because they thought they had to rush back or be stuck in Europe indefinitely.

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: 20:21 16 Mar 2020
by MickyD
I can't help watching Trump during this crisis, car-crash style, and lurching between laughing out loud (literally, quite often) and sneering in utter contempt at the flailings of this ignorant, frightened child who is being shown up to be even more out of his depth than ever before - which I thought well-nigh impossible by this point in his presidency.

My tolerance is being very straahngly tested, very straanhgly tested. As a lodda peeple have said, being tested is nod as good as being very straanhgly tested.