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Re: Donald Trump

Posted: 15:00 26 Jun 2020
by mervyn
What happened to Trum’s attempt to sell off the postal service to a friend’s company so he could then ban postal votes, which are historically mainly pro-democrat? Have read nothing further since fears were raised a few months ago.

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: 15:49 26 Jun 2020
by MickyD
mervyn wrote: What happened to Trum’s attempt to sell off the postal service to a friend’s company so he could then ban postal votes, which are historically mainly pro-democrat? Have read nothing further since fears were raised a few months ago.

I don't know about selling it to a friend's company - more like just crippling it, I thought - but on that front regrettably he's going ahead full throttle. It's already under the control of one of Trump's toadies - sorry, allies.

15th June:

Trump ally takes over crisis-ridden Postal Service as top Senate Democrat demands inquiry on hiring

Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., wrote to Postal Service board of governors chairman Robert M. Duncan questioning whether DeJoy, a seasoned businessman and top fundraiser for President Donald Trump who took office Monday, was “selected for reasons of politics or patronage” and how he’ll distance himself from the GOP and his vast financial portfolio.

It's happening throughout the entire system - again, and again, and again. Voice of America and its vast associated worldwide media network is about to topple to Trump as well, by the way.

Voice of America, affiliates in turmoil as controversial Trump pick takes over

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: 09:49 29 Jun 2020
by MickyD
Trump's America! Freedom! Yayyy!

2 minutes 10 seconds of utter lunacy (QAnoners all, no doubt), then two people at the end who actually sound like informed grown-ups. Those freedom-loving patriots are scarier than the virus.

Florida residents reject face masks: 'They want to throw God's wonderful breathing system out'

(Yep, one of them really does say that.)

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: 10:38 29 Jun 2020
by Pogleswoody
MickyD wrote: Trump's America! Freedom! Yayyy!

2 minutes 10 seconds of utter lunacy (QAnoners all, no doubt), then two people at the end who actually sound like informed grown-ups. Those freedom-loving patriots are scarier than the virus.

Florida residents reject face masks: 'They want to throw God's wonderful breathing system out'

(Yep, one of them really does say that.)


So what happens to God's wonderful breathing system when you die and go to meet her in heaven? :problem:

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: 18:06 29 Jun 2020
by Ade the green
So, did Trump and Pence know in March that the Russians had set a bounty on the heads of American and Allied forces for the Taliban?

Surely not, because if this happened in March there is no way he’d be inviting Putin to attend the G7 meetings? Or is there?????

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: 19:03 29 Jun 2020
by MickyD
Ade the green wrote: So, did Trump and Pence know in March that the Russians had set a bounty on the heads of American and Allied forces for the Taliban?

Surely not, because if this happened in March there is no way he’d be inviting Putin to attend the G7 meetings? Or is there?????

I know, there's just no end to it.

The WH is naturally claiming that Trump knew nothing of the report. So what's worse? That he knew all about it but ignored it, or that they were too frightened to tell the actual president of the country?

And we were also informed, and what did our government do about it? Exactly what they were told to do, no doubt.

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: 12:59 30 Jun 2020
by Ade the green
MickyD wrote:
Ade the green wrote: So, did Trump and Pence know in March that the Russians had set a bounty on the heads of American and Allied forces for the Taliban?

Surely not, because if this happened in March there is no way he’d be inviting Putin to attend the G7 meetings? Or is there?????

I know, there's just no end to it.

The WH is naturally claiming that Trump knew nothing of the report. So what's worse? That he knew all about it but ignored it, or that they were too frightened to tell the actual president of the country?

And we were also informed, and what did our government do about it? Exactly what they were told to do, no doubt.



Interestingly, Republicans are thinking that if Trump’s pools do not improve or if he feels that he can’t win he will pull out of a re-election bid. The timings of this is very important. Trump already trailing in the polls has this week been informally accused of cowtowing to Putin (once again) by ignoring intelligence reports of Russian behaviour in Afghanistan. Even without proof there is pretty damning rhetoric coming from some people within the administration.
Having spent 3 years dodging any meaningful acquiescence to the Mueller probe and buying an AG to invalidate the findings, all because the probe found there was discussions with Russia that was at best ignorant of procedure and at worse treasonous to the America people it is now clearer than ever that he is in Putin’s pocket and has been since before he announced his running for Potus.

Could he be hoping that by dodging out of his election campaigns that he could dodge all and any scrutiny that will surely come and any punishment that will even more surely come thereafter?

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: 14:11 30 Jun 2020
by MickyD
That all still begs the question(s): who would be capable of taking over from him and stand a good chance of winning; who would the GOP find acceptable; who would the rabid Trump base stick with; and who would Trump stand down for anyway? As per my post last week, I can come up with only one name: Don Junior. I fills me with horror just to contemplate it, but he's absolutely ready-made for the job, in various ways that nobody else is.

There's also the small matter of staying out of prison, also alluded to last week. Dropping out of the race might save Trump a lot of further public scrutiny, but Biden has already said that he would emphatically not pardon Trump if he, Biden, were elected. Trump would trust nobody but a family member to make certain that a pardon were granted, or that all further investigation be crushed even more brutally than it already has been.

It would be a tough call, but I think I might grow to despise a President Don Junior even more than I despise President Don Senior.

Edited to add: Anyway, I think Trump Senior would want to be "officially" a candidate for as long as possible, because the second he's a private citizen again he could be immediately arrested for a list of crimes as long as a gibbon's arm. If it's close enough to the election they'll probably calculate that he should be OK - then it's just a question of awaiting the result, then if they lose challenging it indefinitely, sowing even greater chaos in the country and the world but they won't care about that because it's all about keeping him out of prison - and keeping some utterly mind-blowing secrets from coming to light for as long as possible, I have no doubt. All the things we now know - imagine all the things we still don't!

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: 15:36 30 Jun 2020
by Ade the green
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MickyD wrote: That all still begs the question(s): who would be capable of taking over from him and stand a good chance of winning; who would the GOP find acceptable; who would the rabid Trump base stick with; and who would Trump stand down for anyway? As per my post last week, I can come up with only one name: Don Junior. I fills me with horror just to contemplate it, but he's absolutely ready-made for the job, in various ways that nobody else is.

There's also the small matter of staying out of prison, also alluded to last week. Dropping out of the race might save Trump a lot of further public scrutiny, but Biden has already said that he would emphatically not pardon Trump if he, Biden, were elected. Trump would trust nobody but a family member to make certain that a pardon were granted, or that all further investigation be crushed even more brutally than it already has been.

It would be a tough call, but I think I might grow to despise a President Don Junior even more than I despise President Don Senior.

Edited to add: Anyway, I think Trump Senior would want to be "officially" a candidate for as long as possible, because the second he's a private citizen again he could be immediately arrested for a list of crimes as long as a gibbon's arm. If it's close enough to the election they'll probably calculate that he should be OK - then it's just a question of awaiting the result, then if they lose challenging it indefinitely, sowing even greater chaos in the country and the world but they won't care about that because it's all about keeping him out of prison - and keeping some utterly mind-blowing secrets from coming to light for as long as possible, I have no doubt. All the things we now know - imagine all the things we still don't!



This could mean Trump would contemplate resigning before November which would elevate Pence to President. Pence would surely pardon Trump but would this hold up if Biden We’re duly elected. Also, if Pence becomes president and pardons Trump it would also elevate Pence into the authority figure set to be tried for treason if these informal accusations become formal. By letting Trump off the hook Pence would be jumping into the boat.

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: 15:56 30 Jun 2020
by MickyD
Unlike so many of his cronies, Trump hasn't actually been convicted of anything at this point so there would be nothing for Pence to pardon pre-election. All those lovely investigations will still await Trump after January - assuming that Biden is sworn in at that time.

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: 17:01 30 Jun 2020
by Ade the green
MickyD wrote: Unlike so many of his cronies, Trump hasn't actually been convicted of anything at this point so there would be nothing for Pence to pardon pre-election. All those lovely investigations will still await Trump after January - assuming that Biden is sworn in at that time.



Let’s hope so. I can’t remember if I saw or imagined it that there might be a way of Pence pardoning Trump from prosecution before a result was found. Maybe even pardoning him from being investigated?
Hope not, I’d like to see Trump move from the White House to the Big House!!!

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: 18:35 30 Jun 2020
by MickyD
Orange face to orange jumpsuit! :greensmile:

Well, as I've said a number of times, I would put literally nothing past them so I suppose we'll just have to wait and see. Come what may, I suspect that the second half of this year is going to be just as crazy as the first half has been.

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: 15:56 01 Jul 2020
by mervyn
A book recommendation for those interested. ‘How the hell did this happen?’ by P.J.O’Rourke. Describes quite humouresly all that led to Trumps nomination and victory.