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Re: Donald Trump

Posted: 08:11 01 Sep 2020
by Quinny
Ade the green wrote: If the Democrats can’t pick up the votes to overturn Trump megalomaniacal leadership, there’s a chance they will be in political wilderness in the states for many many years.


That's a genuine risk, and they do have an achilles heel - the all-American (invariably Caucasian) blue-collar worker. Modern Democrats are too isolated in their Washington bubble and, for many years, just don't "get" their struggles. Then Trump turns up and says "I hear you: I'll protect your jobs and stop work going outside of the US." The blue-collar workers aren't interested in the struggles of the BLM, and for the most part don't see evidence of police brutality or racism in their small mid-west towns and cities. The Biden/Harris ticket may well prove popular and reach out to the "suburban housewife" and ethnic groups, but unless they work out how to crack that blue-collar nut they'll struggle in November.

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: 13:45 01 Sep 2020
by Quinny
https://davidallengreen.com/2020/09/law-order-and-law-and-order/

BTW - I don't know if anyone follows @davidallengreen on Twitter, but he's worth looking up. He mainly comments on UK politics and legal matters, but this one about Trump (a series of tweets he rolled up into a brief blog post) is well worth two minutes of your time.

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: 15:32 01 Sep 2020
by mervyn
Quinny wrote: https://davidallengreen.com/2020/09/law-order-and-law-and-order/

BTW - I don't know if anyone follows @davidallengreen on Twitter, but he's worth looking up. He mainly comments on UK politics and legal matters, but this one about Trump (a series of tweets he rolled up into a brief blog post) is well worth two minutes of your time.


Really interesting views on Trump’s methods. I think he’s right when he says we all underestimate him by assuming everyone will ultimately realise just how irrational he is. That just isn’t happening. Heard a scary commentary on Radio 4 from a former senior Republican, now defected, who is confident that Trump’s strategy on Election Day will be to declare victory before the postal votes are counted, then claim fraudulent voting if the postal votes tip him out of office. Cue civil unrest on a massive scale.

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: 16:41 01 Sep 2020
by Pilgrim_Joe
mervyn wrote:
Quinny wrote: https://davidallengreen.com/2020/09/law-order-and-law-and-order/

BTW - I don't know if anyone follows @davidallengreen on Twitter, but he's worth looking up. He mainly comments on UK politics and legal matters, but this one about Trump (a series of tweets he rolled up into a brief blog post) is well worth two minutes of your time.


Really interesting views on Trump’s methods. I think he’s right when he says we all underestimate him by assuming everyone will ultimately realise just how irrational he is. That just isn’t happening. Heard a scary commentary on Radio 4 from a former senior Republican, now defected, who is confident that Trump’s strategy on Election Day will be to declare victory before the postal votes are counted, then claim fraudulent voting if the postal votes tip him out of office. Cue civil unrest on a massive scale.


There has never been a POTUS who literally cares for nothing other than himself.

Doesn't care for his own party, the country and will do anything to win regardless of the impact.

He's stoked America to the point of exploding and continues to do so.

His concerned trip to Kenosha to try and keep the pot boiling is proof of that.

Will the protesters realise they will actually harm their cause and play into his deluded narrative, that he's a law and order advocate if they don't rise above the intimidation and protest peacefully.

Biden has woken up to this now and is refusing to play Trump's game.

I sadly have to agree with you Mervyn. Should he lose I honestly believe he'll encourage disorder and refuse to accept the result.

King of the Swamp :thumbdown:

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: 20:18 01 Sep 2020
by Emeraldinho
I don’t normally follow US elections as avidly as this one but that pig-ignorant piece of sh1t just makes my blood boil. I’ll probably get slated (or worse) for saying this but I really, REALLY wouldn’t give a flying one if someone did a Kennedy on him. I realise it goes against everything that’s decent in democracy but if democracy itself is being strangled by that nazi clown then it’s a price worth paying for the sake of the US and the world’s future. :furious:

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: 22:20 01 Sep 2020
by Mike E
Emeraldinho wrote: I don’t normally follow US elections as avidly as this one but that pig-ignorant piece of sh1t just makes my blood boil. I’ll probably get slated (or worse) for saying this but I really, REALLY wouldn’t give a flying one if someone did a Kennedy on him. I realise it goes against everything that’s decent in democracy but if democracy itself is being strangled by that nazi clown then it’s a price worth paying for the sake of the US and the world’s future. :furious:


You're not alone .

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: 09:33 02 Sep 2020
by Martyn
Mike E wrote:
Emeraldinho wrote: I don’t normally follow US elections as avidly as this one but that pig-ignorant piece of sh1t just makes my blood boil. I’ll probably get slated (or worse) for saying this but I really, REALLY wouldn’t give a flying one if someone did a Kennedy on him. I realise it goes against everything that’s decent in democracy but if democracy itself is being strangled by that nazi clown then it’s a price worth paying for the sake of the US and the world’s future. :furious:


You're not alone .


I agree, if only somebody would, they would be a world hero,

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: 10:14 02 Sep 2020
by MickyD
Martyn wrote:
Mike E wrote:
Emeraldinho wrote: I don’t normally follow US elections as avidly as this one but that pig-ignorant piece of sh1t just makes my blood boil. I’ll probably get slated (or worse) for saying this but I really, REALLY wouldn’t give a flying one if someone did a Kennedy on him. I realise it goes against everything that’s decent in democracy but if democracy itself is being strangled by that nazi clown then it’s a price worth paying for the sake of the US and the world’s future. :furious:


You're not alone .


I agree, if only somebody would, they would be a world hero,

Except that it would probably be an Archduke Franz Ferdinand moment...

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: 10:31 02 Sep 2020
by Pogleswoody
MickyD wrote:
Martyn wrote:
Mike E wrote:
Emeraldinho wrote: I don’t normally follow US elections as avidly as this one but that pig-ignorant piece of sh1t just makes my blood boil. I’ll probably get slated (or worse) for saying this but I really, REALLY wouldn’t give a flying one if someone did a Kennedy on him. I realise it goes against everything that’s decent in democracy but if democracy itself is being strangled by that nazi clown then it’s a price worth paying for the sake of the US and the world’s future. :furious:


You're not alone .


I agree, if only somebody would, they would be a world hero,

Except that it would probably be an Archduke Franz Ferdinand moment...


Plus, if you went for his brain or his heart you'd have to be a world class marksman! :whistle:

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: 07:37 03 Sep 2020
by Martyn
Pogleswoody wrote:
MickyD wrote:
Martyn wrote:
Mike E wrote:
Emeraldinho wrote: I don’t normally follow US elections as avidly as this one but that pig-ignorant piece of sh1t just makes my blood boil. I’ll probably get slated (or worse) for saying this but I really, REALLY wouldn’t give a flying one if someone did a Kennedy on him. I realise it goes against everything that’s decent in democracy but if democracy itself is being strangled by that nazi clown then it’s a price worth paying for the sake of the US and the world’s future. :furious:


You're not alone .


I agree, if only somebody would, they would be a world hero,

Except that it would probably be an Archduke Franz Ferdinand moment...


Plus, if you went for his brain or his heart you'd have to be a world class marksman! :whistle:


Brilliant :funny:

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: 12:28 03 Sep 2020
by pilgrimage
William Barr interviewed on CNN yesterday. So biased it was unbelievable. Even when questioned on Trump's encouragement for people to try and vote twice he would offer no criticism.

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: 13:29 03 Sep 2020
by MickyD
pilgrimage wrote: William Barr interviewed on CNN yesterday. So biased it was unbelievable. Even when questioned on Trump's encouragement for people to try and vote twice he would offer no criticism.

Yes, Barr is even scarier than Trump in a way because he's superficially so reasonable and "normal" - but he's the one who's allowing Trump to follow his worst instincts, enabling his rampant criminality and general corruption, and stomping on numerous criminal cases that involve Trump and his countless appalling associates.

Barr actually said repeatedly that he didn't know whether it was illegal to encourage voting fraud in "that state," after Trump had done exactly that in suggesting that his supporters in North Carolina try to vote twice, once by post and once in person, just to see how secure the mail-in voting system really is. It is illegal to encourage voting fraud in "that state" but even if it weren't it's certainly illegal to vote twice.

Now let's wait for thousands of Trump supporters to try doing that very thing (and possibly Biden supporters feeling obliged to try the same in order to cancel it out) come the 3rd of November. What an utterly corrupt shambles that country has turned into almost in the blink of an eye.

One great word I've learnt watching this nightmare unfold over the last few years (and one I've previously used at least once here!) is kakistocracy - rule by the very worst and most unprincipled. (And yes, it's believed to share its etymology with cack :greensmile: )

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: 15:02 03 Sep 2020
by Martyn
Correct me, if I am wrong.

But isn’t it right, that the role of the Attorney General works by Law, for and on behalf of the People, first and foremost.

Not on behalf of the Government.