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Re: Donald Trump

Posted: 19:15 16 Nov 2020
by Greenrod
Ade the green wrote: Apparently HM the Queen was going to retire next year to allow Charlie a few months in the job before handing over to Bill. Today’s news that there will be a five day weekend in 2022 to mark her diamond jubilee as monarch is no doubt also to allow Joe, Jill and their mates Barak and Michelle a chance to visit and to join in with the celebrations.

A 5 day knees up is so much better than the tea and scone offered to the big orange baby.


For the sake of accuracy should read ‘platinum jubilee’ :thumbs:

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: 06:36 17 Nov 2020
by Mike E
MickyD wrote: Having become a little complacent just lately I have to say that I'm getting increasingly worried again about something that hasn't stopped nagging at me even since Biden was seen to be such a clear winner: that the Trump administration and the GOP really are going to try to turn this situation into a coup. My fears were summed up today by Nesrine Malik in the Guardian:

Donald Trump's refusal to concede is no joke – it's a dangerous precedent

The final two paragraphs:

Instead of preparing for, and heading off, the worst-case scenario, and despite all the norm-shattering of the past few years, a stubborn American exceptionalism still remains, one that in sage tones calms any fears of a Trump takeover. The Biden camp has chosen to carry on with a transition process during which they have not even been allowed to access messages of congratulation, and still use no stronger language than calling Trump’s refusal to concede “an embarrassment”.

The whole episode is “terrible for democracy, but ultimately a bad case of Trumpian bluster rather than an ominous portent of tanks in the streets” predicts the New Yorker. When a person is robbed of power, “they immediately become less scary”, Slate tells us. “Thank goodness Trump is too incompetent to properly organise a coup,” says the Washington Post. But, as the author Talia Lavin put it, “it is almost as if mainstream political journalists in the United States suffer a kind of Promethean ailment: each morning, an eagle draped in an American flag swoops down and removes their temporal lobe.” The lesson they are constantly unlearning is that with Trump, things seem unthinkable until they are inevitable. And by then, it’s too late.

The appointment a few days ago of several loyalist Trump hacks into most of the top Pentagon posts has me very worried in itself. Was it just pure spite to sack the incumbents for resisting some of his crazier urges (always possible with Trump), or is there more to it?


Thought this a a few days ago when he started replacing staff at the Pentagon to those who were loyal to him. Why would he do this now in the twighlight of his presidency unless he was preparing for the military to support him ? But then thought if Biden and the American media don't seem concerned surely there is nothing to worry about.

Surely Biden can't be burying his head in the sand hoping it can't happen or that questioning Trumps actions would only fan the flames.

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: 11:14 17 Nov 2020
by Pogleswoody
Greenrod wrote:
Ade the green wrote: Apparently HM the Queen was going to retire next year to allow Charlie a few months in the job before handing over to Bill. Today’s news that there will be a five day weekend in 2022 to mark her diamond jubilee as monarch is no doubt also to allow Joe, Jill and their mates Barak and Michelle a chance to visit and to join in with the celebrations.

A 5 day knees up is so much better than the tea and scone offered to the big orange baby.


For the sake of accuracy should read ‘platinum jubilee’ :thumbs:



Great to have the confidence to plan what you will do in 18 months when you are that age and we are in a pandemic! :whistle:

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: 05:48 20 Nov 2020
by ninjamissile
They seem very confident. Not covered by the BBC for some reason.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWz26Sl ... LL&index=1

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: 08:12 20 Nov 2020
by Quinny
TBF, Rudy's dripping hair-dye stole the show in that press conference yesterday, even though he and the other lawyers ranted about everything from antifa and Hugo Chavez (who died 7 years ago) having an involvement in the alleged election-rigging conspiracy (a claim which isn't on any of the law-suits they have filed).

I don't know how many times it can be said, and from how many angles it can be viewed from, but there is no evidence of any wrong-doing. Team-Trump have no evidence, they know there is no evidence, and none of the law-suits detail any evidence. Because there is no evidence.

Just in case I've not made myself clear on this point - there is no evidence. Biden won that election fair and square.

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: 09:00 20 Nov 2020
by Martyn
Quinny wrote: TBF, Rudy's dripping hair-dye stole the show in that press conference yesterday, even though he and the other lawyers ranted about everything from antifa and Hugo Chavez (who died 7 years ago) having an involvement in the alleged election-rigging conspiracy (a claim which isn't on any of the law-suits they have filed).

I don't know how many times it can be said, and from how many angles it can be viewed from, but there is no evidence of any wrong-doing. Team-Trump have no evidence, they know there is no evidence, and none of the law-suits detail any evidence. Because there is no evidence.

Just in case I've not made myself clear on this point - there is no evidence. Biden won that election fair and square.


Quite right, so this is about Trumps precious ego.

And Americans are dying because of this, what a truly despicable excuse of a human being he is.

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: 09:13 20 Nov 2020
by Quinny
Indeed, Martyn. Trump is completely unconcerned about those dying in America right now. Biden has his faults, for sure, but at least he sounded how you expected a President to sound when he talked about Thanksgiving and remembering those who should have been sitting in empty chairs around tables in America. You could easily imagine the likes of Reagan or Dubya saying that, too, if they were still POTUS, but not Trump.

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: 10:42 20 Nov 2020
by Quinny
The bit which is doing my head in at the moment is the cognitive dissonance of Trump supporters who believe the election was illegal, yet have no problems believing that the path Trump is trying to go down - to try and prevent results being certified in key states he lost so that pro-Trump electors would be selected by those States and vote for him in the Electoral College - are somehow acceptable.

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: 11:59 20 Nov 2020
by Ade the green
Can I please indulge in a slight tangent to the thread.

Can anyone please give a brief outline to who George Soros is?

I’ve googled him and one of the things been said about him is that he is a Holocaust denier!! Considering I believe he survived the death camps I find this hard to believe.

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: 12:07 20 Nov 2020
by Quinny
Came to fame when the UK withdrew from the ERM, IIR, by making a bundle of cash out of it. Set up an economic think-tank in later years.

He gets attacked a lot as of his Jewish background and that he's made a shed-load of money because he's a very shrewd investor.

That's about as much as I know :D

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: 13:07 20 Nov 2020
by MickyD
He's an easy target for conspiracists because he's extremely rich and Jewish, and he pours vast sums of money into racial equality causes and other things that the right hates. He is certainly not a Holocaust denier.

Complete List Of U.S. Organizations Funded By George Soros

Talk about triggering the right-tards!

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: 13:40 20 Nov 2020
by Ade the green
MickyD wrote: He's an easy target for conspiracists because he's extremely rich and Jewish, and he pours vast sums of money into racial equality causes and other things that the right hates. He is certainly not a Holocaust denier.

Complete List Of U.S. Organizations Funded By George Soros

Talk about triggering the right-tards!



Just his name is enough to have conservatives running.
The Holocaust denier bit was confusing as (as much as I do know) he was in one of the camps. The fact that conspiracy theorists both deny the Holocaust and yet accuse a survivor of denying it made me gasp.

Re: Donald Trump

Posted: 13:46 20 Nov 2020
by Martyn
Quinny wrote: The bit which is doing my head in at the moment is the cognitive dissonance of Trump supporters who believe the election was illegal, yet have no problems believing that the path Trump is trying to go down - to try and prevent results being certified in key states he lost so that pro-Trump electors would be selected by those States and vote for him in the Electoral College - are somehow acceptable.


What I find must galling and downright the lowest anybody can do.

Not once, has he praised the doctors and nurses in he USA, for there absolutely immense contribution to their jobs, in saving fellow Americans, Trump is killing.

No empathy to the now quarter of a million people (probably many GOP supporters), who have died, due to lack of any action from that excuse of a person.

All he is concerned about is getting re-elected, my god, can’t his supporters see this.

The silence of the GOP senators and congressmen is deafening, and as for Guiliani, words fail me.

I await any Trump supporters on here, to say I am wrong, or are you going to keep silent as well.