Pilgrim_Joe wrote:KeithB wrote: I get your passion and admire your absolute certainty that we are about to become a third world country.
Change is always difficult to deal with, but I don't see any issues that can't be overcome in the future. Our biggest problem at the moment is being in limbo.
Once we are past this stage, we can move forward.
This confuses me .... doesn't take much agreed, but I have not seen an economist, business or even a minister, when pressed not say that GDP will take a hit IF we leave without a deal.
I work for a large multinational and they have already switched lots of investment and manpower away from the UK.
The whole ideological thing of any discussion confuses me. There are only ever cold hard numbers.
ALL people agree that there will be an impact. No one is saying 3rd world that's trite nonsense, but it's clear there will be a impact.
Washing your hands for 20 seconds singing Rule Britannia, or claiming the UK developed the US Pfizer vaccine and because of Brexit we approved it first. Errrr no we're still under EU rules with regard to approvals. That's aimed at Rees-Mogg
That's the problem with lying. The truth will always out.
This isn't anti-Brexit, it's anti-lies.
We're out. There are no leavers / remainers anymore.
So please Boris and co - just tell us the truth. That's what everybody needs!
Exactly Joe, there are no leavers or remainers now, we've left so let's just get on with sorting out the limbo we find ourselves in, 'deal' or 'no deal' just get some sort of agreement so that people can get on with their lives, the red tape will go on for ever !
Yes you would have had to have been a mug to believe the lies, that it would all be plain sailing and a piece of cake, but the bottom line is that both the economies of the UK and of the rest of Europe are now being held to ransom by a bunch of fishermen either side of the channel, the same UK fishermen who apparently sold their quotas to Europe in the past and now want to change the rules to get them back.