The best way to guarantee EU Funding is to stay in the EU. If you leave the EU you don't get EU Funding. Cornwall is not oop North lah or in the South East dontcha know.
Tories don't give a schiit about the SW except when Cameron came down here to be filmed eating a flake before going off on his real holiday.

Not rocket science is it (won't get that at Newquay either).

Dupes!

Maybe they can stand on their own two feet and start picking daffs and turnips when all the migrants leave. After all Kernow wanted devolution, didn't they?

Looks like Bono will get what HE ALWAYS wanted,

A No deal Brexit.

Looks like Bono will get what HE ALWAYS wanted,

A No deal Brexit.

Months ago I said that it would be no deal at the end of the day purely because every country in the eu has its own agenda from fishing to borders
Etc etc. Couldn't see how the two poles could ever meet

The best way to guarantee EU Funding is to stay in the EU. If you leave the EU you don't get EU Funding. Cornwall is not oop North lah or in the South East dontcha know.
Tories don't give a schiit about the SW except when Cameron came down here to be filmed eating a flake before going off on his real holiday.

Not rocket science is it (won't get that at Newquay either).

Dupes!

Maybe they can stand on their own two feet and start picking daffs and turnips when all the migrants leave. After all Kernow wanted devolution, didn't they?

A good start would be to stop all visitors from tiers 2 and 3 coming to Cornwall!

Looks like Bono will get what HE ALWAYS wanted,

A No deal Brexit.

Months ago I said that it would be no deal at the end of the day purely because every country in the eu has its own agenda from fishing to borders
Etc etc. Couldn't see how the two poles could ever meet

Months ago!!!!!!!!! For many we said this years ago. I shouldn’t find any joy because we’re all in this together but i’ve been ticking off all my predictions to my “leave” voting brother for four years now and his only answer has been that he never saw it coming. Just like the 80% that voted leave from Kent which will soon be under a massive concrete truck stop.

Looks like Bono will get what HE ALWAYS wanted,

A No deal Brexit.

Months ago I said that it would be no deal at the end of the day purely because every country in the eu has its own agenda from fishing to borders
Etc etc. Couldn't see how the two poles could ever meet

Months ago!!!!!!!!! For many we said this years ago. I shouldn’t find any joy because we’re all in this together but i’ve been ticking off all my predictions to my “leave” voting brother for four years now and his only answer has been that he never saw it coming. Just like the 80% that voted leave from Kent which will soon be under a massive concrete truck stop.

Yes agreed a no deal could have been predicted years ago but on here months ago I basically said that whilst I wanted a deal the only deal I could see happening was a no deal and listed my reasons why. So there is no Joy I would have preferred an agreement but not surprised how things have turned out.

Looks like Bono will get what HE ALWAYS wanted,

A No deal Brexit.

Months ago I said that it would be no deal at the end of the day purely because every country in the eu has its own agenda from fishing to borders
Etc etc. Couldn't see how the two poles could ever meet

Months ago!!!!!!!!! For many we said this years ago. I shouldn’t find any joy because we’re all in this together but i’ve been ticking off all my predictions to my “leave” voting brother for four years now and his only answer has been that he never saw it coming. Just like the 80% that voted leave from Kent which will soon be under a massive concrete truck stop.

Yes agreed a no deal could have been predicted years ago but on here months ago I basically said that whilst I wanted a deal the only deal I could see happening was a no deal and listed my reasons why. So there is no Joy I would have preferred an agreement but not surprised how things have turned out.

Unbelievably .... looks like Boris has been lying again and I suspect no deal was always the intention

So far apart from the first stage of Brexit, which was ultimately a rebadged May deal sold as oven ready, but it now appears undercooked.

NI customs checks lie etc, etc. The farcical petulant breaking of International law which has undermined our already shaky negotiating position.

This is not remain/leave as people will drag up - just assessing the situation pragmatically.

I seriously wonder if people who voted for Boris feel that he is actually delivering in any sort of fashion on anything?

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Unbelievably .... looks like Boris has been lying again and I suspect no deal was always the intention

So far apart from the first stage of Brexit, which was ultimately a rebadged May deal sold as oven ready, but it now appears undercooked.

NI customs checks lie etc, etc. The farcical petulant breaking of International law which has undermined our already shaky negotiating position.

This is not remain/leave as people will drag up - just assessing the situation pragmatically.

I seriously wonder if people who voted for Boris feel that he is actually delivering in any sort of fashion on anything?

Surprising then that the polls are broadly neck and neck - maybe still a slight Tory advantage when averaged out. I know they had to come from a long way back thanks to dear old Jezza and John, but if an Opposition party can not have a significant lead at this stage of a Parliamentary term - and with the double headed spectre of Covid and a potential no deal Brexit, then one simply has to wonder ...

Personally I think Starmer is sound, it's what stands behind him that fills me with even less confidence than the current Cabinet. And whilst true, that is a ridiculous thing to say.

Looks like Bono will get what HE ALWAYS wanted,

A No deal Brexit.

Months ago I said that it would be no deal at the end of the day purely because every country in the eu has its own agenda from fishing to borders
Etc etc. Couldn't see how the two poles could ever meet

Months ago!!!!!!!!! For many we said this years ago. I shouldn’t find any joy because we’re all in this together but i’ve been ticking off all my predictions to my “leave” voting brother for four years now and his only answer has been that he never saw it coming. Just like the 80% that voted leave from Kent which will soon be under a massive concrete truck stop.

Yes agreed a no deal could have been predicted years ago but on here months ago I basically said that whilst I wanted a deal the only deal I could see happening was a no deal and listed my reasons why. So there is no Joy I would have preferred an agreement but not surprised how things have turned out.

Unbelievably .... looks like Boris has been lying again and I suspect no deal was always the intention

So far apart from the first stage of Brexit, which was ultimately a rebadged May deal sold as oven ready, but it now appears undercooked.

NI customs checks lie etc, etc. The farcical petulant breaking of International law which has undermined our already shaky negotiating position.

This is not remain/leave as people will drag up - just assessing the situation pragmatically.

I seriously wonder if people who voted for Boris feel that he is actually delivering in any sort of fashion on anything?

Bojo, had been lying ALL thru his career, he is still at it.

Since the referendum, he has always said he wanted a no deal.

This will cause absolutely millions, and put the country even more in the red, with further unemployment.

Also, he said about a lack of money for the Covid pandemic, but finds £77 million for more ‘trailer’, space on ferries.

No, I actually believe that Boris doesn't want a no-deal Brexit. However, much as Cameron introduced the referendum to stave off the apparent threat UKIP posed, Boris is continually having to react to the more extreme elements in the Conservative Party which is forcing him down the no deal route. The EU was a divisive issue for the Conservatives when we were members, and it continues to be divisive for them now we are out. I have very little time for Thatcher, but even this jaded old leftie can't help but be impressed at how well she kept her party together over EU membership.

All this talk about walking away from the table is just posturing by Boris - he's hoping that the EU won't call his bluff and concede at the very last minute. And this is failing post-referendum Conservative thinking: more than once while we were members of the EU we threatened to walk away from negotiations on a certain point knowing the remaining members would crumble and concede, but this approach won't work now we're outside the EU. The remaining 27 are going to stand their ground and (quite rightly) protect their interests, not pander to ours.

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Unbelievably .... looks like Boris has been lying again and I suspect no deal was always the intention

So far apart from the first stage of Brexit, which was ultimately a rebadged May deal sold as oven ready, but it now appears undercooked.

NI customs checks lie etc, etc. The farcical petulant breaking of International law which has undermined our already shaky negotiating position.

This is not remain/leave as people will drag up - just assessing the situation pragmatically.

I seriously wonder if people who voted for Boris feel that he is actually delivering in any sort of fashion on anything?

Surprising then that the polls are broadly neck and neck - maybe still a slight Tory advantage when averaged out. I know they had to come from a long way back thanks to dear old Jezza and John, but if an Opposition party can not have a significant lead at this stage of a Parliamentary term - and with the double headed spectre of Covid and a potential no deal Brexit, then one simply has to wonder ...

Personally I think Starmer is sound, it's what stands behind him that fills me with even less confidence than the current Cabinet. And whilst true, that is a ridiculous thing to say.

Really Frank? I know you are a Rightie but we could get a load of 5 year olds from the nursery and they would have done a better job of dealing with the pandemic than the current clueless bumbling half wits. Hence the UK is the worst affected country in Western Europe.
Surprising Labour are not ahead? It's just a snapshot and takes a while to retrieve a deficit. Do you really think Tories would lose support at the moment on current concerns of a no deal ? Course not. Most don't realize the implications as they didn't by voting for Brexit. They sure will in years to come though if No deal comes to pass. Let's see how the Polls look then.
The bigger picture/question however is why working class voters continue to support a party that doesn't look after their interests. I guess the Tories are quite good at fooling people in the same way as Trump and they are massively helped by the media. Simple messages around immigration resonate as does the promise of tax cuts but those complaining then of cuts to the NHS etc just cant square the circle. The ignorance/stupidity of Trump supporters is quite scary considering the power they have in the ballot box. And that is mirrored here to some extent unfortunately.

I suspect that Johnson/Cummings/Gove have made a fundamental tactical error. All the way through the referendum debate they argued that our trade deficit with the EU meant we would be certain of a good deal. They would badly need our trade. The Marr programme showed clips of Gove repeating this same mantra two years ago.

Now it’s true that around 7% of Mercedes and VW’s sales are to the UK, and a large portion of France’s wine sales come to us, flower products from Holland and so on around the 27. However, whilst the trade deficit is a big chunk in aggregate, a no deal wouldn’t hit any individual EU member anything like as hard as it would hurt us. Add to this that Covid is the number one agenda item for all Euro members, and it would be hard for them not to think ‘stuff ‘em’, we’ve got more pressing issues to deal with. If we hold out for fishing rights, representing 0.1% of GDP, and government financial support to trade sectors, which we never do anyway, we shall see a no deal for the flimsiest of reasons, so I share the view that these idiots aren’t bothered about a deal in the first place.

Hope I’m wrong.

Back in early September I looked at what was going on with Covid and Brexit and thought: Uh-oh, Double Whammy Doomsday is approaching. So, I went online and ordered large quantities of long shelf-life non-perishable foodstuffs and toiletries - tea, coffee, pasta, tinned tomatoes, olive oil, flour, yeast, bog roll, toothpaste, that kind of thing. (Oh, and I now have a substantial "cellar" of cheap plonk )

It didn't cost a fortune (less than I've saved on pubs since March!) and of course I hope there isn't major disruption; but there almost certainly will be now. Never mind a probable no-deal Brexit, or even a cobbled together last-minute deal, with Kent turned into a lorry park either way; look at what happened in the early days of Covid alone: panic buying and empty supermarket shelves, and no home delivery slots pretty much anywhere unless you could prove you qualified as a special case. Throw in Brexit on top and, well...

The thing is, we just don't know what ramifications there may be in the disruption of supply chains - some shortages may be really surprising, just because one particular ingredient or component becomes unavailable, with the just-in-time delivery system almost certainly collapsing - so in all seriousness I would recommend that everyone who can afford it try to get in early before the shortages and the panic-buying set in for real. Buying online you're not contributing to the emptying of shelves, and you don't even have to leave home and expose yourself to any of those heroic mask-deniers in the shops. Then later, when it all kicks off, you can go out on the streets selling toilet rolls for a fiver a go.

Maybe not that last one.