Get your facts right. I didn't say what does he know? I said who cares what he thinks? As for the other 5 former prime ministers they do have something in common, all losers.You can bleat ,throw tantrums do whatever you want but it won't change a thing.

Even now, with your Trumpian rhetoric, you still imagine that all these posts represent nothing more than a bunch of bad losers throwing hissy fits. Your head must be a very dark and scary place to live, to see the world in such playground terms after presumably many years' experience of life. I don't envy you.

"A bunch of bad losers throwing hissy fits" ,I couldn't put it any better myself. I certainly don't envy your pompous attitude towards those who disagree with you. Your adulation of the EU and France in particular is nauseating.

Wow, you sure know how to hurt a guy!

Get your facts right. I didn't say what does he know? I said who cares what he thinks? As for the other 5 former prime ministers they do have something in common, all losers.You can bleat ,throw tantrums do whatever you want but it won't change a thing.

Even now, with your Trumpian rhetoric, you still imagine that all these posts represent nothing more than a bunch of bad losers throwing hissy fits. Your head must be a very dark and scary place to live, to see the world in such playground terms after presumably many years' experience of life. I don't envy you.

"A bunch of bad losers throwing hissy fits" ,I couldn't put it any better myself. I certainly don't envy your pompous attitude towards those who disagree with you. Your adulation of the EU and France in particular is nauseating.

Wow, you sure know how to hurt a guy!

There was a farmer on Radio 5 yesterday. Asked what the best thing for her was from leaving the EU. She umned and aaahed and couldn't really name a single thing.
Nicky wotsit goaded her a bit on lost subsidies so she eventually came up with: We'll be able to cut our hedges and plough our fields whenever we like.

Great stuff. Don't let wildlife get in the way of a fast profit!!

Yes, I was listening to that interview, she was all for Brexit, because she was a farmer, but couldn’t name one benefit for HER, because of Brexit, and to be prompted.

Whereas, he bloke from Scotland, mentioned all the worse things about coming out of the EU.

The farmer, was another Brexiter, who hadn’t a clue was she was voting for.

She did have a clue about what she was voting for but didn't articulate herself in the best way. Your ignorance of what '...plough our fields whenever we like' really means shows that you don't actually have a clue. The EU 'tells' the farmer to only produce 'x' amount of product from their fields and pays them a subsidy in place of the earnings they would have expected to earn if they had continued ploughing their fields. Being out of the EU means that the farmer can now plough their fields whenever they like and possibly earn more by producing and selling more of their product. By being out of the EU the farmer no longer has to just stick to the quota the EU sets. Farmers are free to produce as much as they want and when they want. Also, regarding your last comment; I've yet to meet a person that voted to leave that didn't know why they voted as such. Your suggestion that there are a lot of people that don't know why they voted to leave is just another example of how clueless you are.

There was a farmer on Radio 5 yesterday. Asked what the best thing for her was from leaving the EU. She umned and aaahed and couldn't really name a single thing.
Nicky wotsit goaded her a bit on lost subsidies so she eventually came up with: We'll be able to cut our hedges and plough our fields whenever we like.

Great stuff. Don't let wildlife get in the way of a fast profit!!

Yes, I was listening to that interview, she was all for Brexit, because she was a farmer, but couldn’t name one benefit for HER, because of Brexit, and to be prompted.

Whereas, he bloke from Scotland, mentioned all the worse things about coming out of the EU.

The farmer, was another Brexiter, who hadn’t a clue was she was voting for.

She did have a clue about what she was voting for but didn't articulate herself in the best way. Your ignorance of what '...plough our fields whenever we like' really means shows that you don't actually have a clue. The EU 'tells' the farmer to only produce 'x' amount of product from their fields and pays them a subsidy in place of the earnings they would have expected to earn if they had continued ploughing their fields. Being out of the EU means that the farmer can now plough their fields whenever they like and possibly earn more by producing and selling more of their product. By being out of the EU the farmer no longer has to just stick to the quota the EU sets. Farmers are free to produce as much as they want and when they want. Also, regarding your last comment; I've yet to meet a person that voted to leave that didn't know why they voted as such. Your suggestion that there are a lot of people that don't know why they voted to leave is just another example of how clueless you are.

And a very Merry Christmas to you too

There was a farmer on Radio 5 yesterday. Asked what the best thing for her was from leaving the EU. She umned and aaahed and couldn't really name a single thing.
Nicky wotsit goaded her a bit on lost subsidies so she eventually came up with: We'll be able to cut our hedges and plough our fields whenever we like.

Great stuff. Don't let wildlife get in the way of a fast profit!!

Yes, I was listening to that interview, she was all for Brexit, because she was a farmer, but couldn’t name one benefit for HER, because of Brexit, and to be prompted.

Whereas, he bloke from Scotland, mentioned all the worse things about coming out of the EU.

The farmer, was another Brexiter, who hadn’t a clue was she was voting for.

She did have a clue about what she was voting for but didn't articulate herself in the best way. Your ignorance of what '...plough our fields whenever we like' really means shows that you don't actually have a clue. The EU 'tells' the farmer to only produce 'x' amount of product from their fields and pays them a subsidy in place of the earnings they would have expected to earn if they had continued ploughing their fields. Being out of the EU means that the farmer can now plough their fields whenever they like and possibly earn more by producing and selling more of their product. By being out of the EU the farmer no longer has to just stick to the quota the EU sets. Farmers are free to produce as much as they want and when they want. Also, regarding your last comment; I've yet to meet a person that voted to leave that didn't know why they voted as such. Your suggestion that there are a lot of people that don't know why they voted to leave is just another example of how clueless you are.

... and a Happy New Year Potty!!

There was a farmer on Radio 5 yesterday. Asked what the best thing for her was from leaving the EU. She umned and aaahed and couldn't really name a single thing.
Nicky wotsit goaded her a bit on lost subsidies so she eventually came up with: We'll be able to cut our hedges and plough our fields whenever we like.

Great stuff. Don't let wildlife get in the way of a fast profit!!

Yes, I was listening to that interview, she was all for Brexit, because she was a farmer, but couldn’t name one benefit for HER, because of Brexit, and to be prompted.

Whereas, he bloke from Scotland, mentioned all the worse things about coming out of the EU.

The farmer, was another Brexiter, who hadn’t a clue was she was voting for.

She did have a clue about what she was voting for but didn't articulate herself in the best way. Your ignorance of what '...plough our fields whenever we like' really means shows that you don't actually have a clue. The EU 'tells' the farmer to only produce 'x' amount of product from their fields and pays them a subsidy in place of the earnings they would have expected to earn if they had continued ploughing their fields. Being out of the EU means that the farmer can now plough their fields whenever they like and possibly earn more by producing and selling more of their product. By being out of the EU the farmer no longer has to just stick to the quota the EU sets. Farmers are free to produce as much as they want and when they want. Also, regarding your last comment; I've yet to meet a person that voted to leave that didn't know why they voted as such. Your suggestion that there are a lot of people that don't know why they voted to leave is just another example of how clueless you are.

... and a Happy New Year Potty!!

...and to you Pogles. Even though I highlighted text from your comment I was actually replying to Martyn. People that say those that voted to leave didn't know what they were voting for get under my skin a bit. It suggests that those people are stupid and that is simply not the case. I'm hoping that now a deal has been agreed people can stop having a go at others over this Brexit thing and start looking forward.

There was a farmer on Radio 5 yesterday. Asked what the best thing for her was from leaving the EU. She umned and aaahed and couldn't really name a single thing.
Nicky wotsit goaded her a bit on lost subsidies so she eventually came up with: We'll be able to cut our hedges and plough our fields whenever we like.

Great stuff. Don't let wildlife get in the way of a fast profit!!

Yes, I was listening to that interview, she was all for Brexit, because she was a farmer, but couldn’t name one benefit for HER, because of Brexit, and to be prompted.

Whereas, he bloke from Scotland, mentioned all the worse things about coming out of the EU.

The farmer, was another Brexiter, who hadn’t a clue was she was voting for.

She did have a clue about what she was voting for but didn't articulate herself in the best way. Your ignorance of what '...plough our fields whenever we like' really means shows that you don't actually have a clue. The EU 'tells' the farmer to only produce 'x' amount of product from their fields and pays them a subsidy in place of the earnings they would have expected to earn if they had continued ploughing their fields. Being out of the EU means that the farmer can now plough their fields whenever they like and possibly earn more by producing and selling more of their product. By being out of the EU the farmer no longer has to just stick to the quota the EU sets. Farmers are free to produce as much as they want and when they want. Also, regarding your last comment; I've yet to meet a person that voted to leave that didn't know why they voted as such. Your suggestion that there are a lot of people that don't know why they voted to leave is just another example of how clueless you are.

... and a Happy New Year Potty!!

...and to you Pogles. Even though I highlighted text from your comment I was actually replying to Martyn. People that say those that voted to leave didn't know what they were voting for get under my skin a bit. It suggests that those people are stupid and that is simply not the case. I'm hoping that now a deal has been agreed people can stop having a go at others over this Brexit thing and start looking forward.

Well surely 2021 must be better for all of us ... disregarding politics and 'differences'

There was a farmer on Radio 5 yesterday. Asked what the best thing for her was from leaving the EU. She umned and aaahed and couldn't really name a single thing.
Nicky wotsit goaded her a bit on lost subsidies so she eventually came up with: We'll be able to cut our hedges and plough our fields whenever we like.

Great stuff. Don't let wildlife get in the way of a fast profit!!

Yes, I was listening to that interview, she was all for Brexit, because she was a farmer, but couldn’t name one benefit for HER, because of Brexit, and to be prompted.

Whereas, he bloke from Scotland, mentioned all the worse things about coming out of the EU.

The farmer, was another Brexiter, who hadn’t a clue was she was voting for.

She did have a clue about what she was voting for but didn't articulate herself in the best way. Your ignorance of what '...plough our fields whenever we like' really means shows that you don't actually have a clue. The EU 'tells' the farmer to only produce 'x' amount of product from their fields and pays them a subsidy in place of the earnings they would have expected to earn if they had continued ploughing their fields. Being out of the EU means that the farmer can now plough their fields whenever they like and possibly earn more by producing and selling more of their product. By being out of the EU the farmer no longer has to just stick to the quota the EU sets. Farmers are free to produce as much as they want and when they want. Also, regarding your last comment; I've yet to meet a person that voted to leave that didn't know why they voted as such. Your suggestion that there are a lot of people that don't know why they voted to leave is just another example of how clueless you are.

... and a Happy New Year Potty!!

...and to you Pogles. Even though I highlighted text from your comment I was actually replying to Martyn. People that say those that voted to leave didn't know what they were voting for get under my skin a bit. It suggests that those people are stupid and that is simply not the case. I'm hoping that now a deal has been agreed people can stop having a go at others over this Brexit thing and start looking forward.

Well surely 2021 must be better for all of us ... disregarding politics and 'differences'

I’m even more excited about 2021 now. Spent the last twenty games at HP unable to identify players numbers, let alone names, particularly under floodlights, my cataracts had got so bad. I’ve had two operations and yippee, I can even read small text without glasses! Can’t wait for our first game where I can visit. Mrs Mervyn says that without glasses I look less grumpy, so a win all round.

There was a farmer on Radio 5 yesterday. Asked what the best thing for her was from leaving the EU. She umned and aaahed and couldn't really name a single thing.
Nicky wotsit goaded her a bit on lost subsidies so she eventually came up with: We'll be able to cut our hedges and plough our fields whenever we like.

Great stuff. Don't let wildlife get in the way of a fast profit!!

Yes, I was listening to that interview, she was all for Brexit, because she was a farmer, but couldn’t name one benefit for HER, because of Brexit, and to be prompted.

Whereas, he bloke from Scotland, mentioned all the worse things about coming out of the EU.

The farmer, was another Brexiter, who hadn’t a clue was she was voting for.

She did have a clue about what she was voting for but didn't articulate herself in the best way. Your ignorance of what '...plough our fields whenever we like' really means shows that you don't actually have a clue. The EU 'tells' the farmer to only produce 'x' amount of product from their fields and pays them a subsidy in place of the earnings they would have expected to earn if they had continued ploughing their fields. Being out of the EU means that the farmer can now plough their fields whenever they like and possibly earn more by producing and selling more of their product. By being out of the EU the farmer no longer has to just stick to the quota the EU sets. Farmers are free to produce as much as they want and when they want. Also, regarding your last comment; I've yet to meet a person that voted to leave that didn't know why they voted as such. Your suggestion that there are a lot of people that don't know why they voted to leave is just another example of how clueless you are.

... and a Happy New Year Potty!!

...and to you Pogles. Even though I highlighted text from your comment I was actually replying to Martyn. People that say those that voted to leave didn't know what they were voting for get under my skin a bit. It suggests that those people are stupid and that is simply not the case. I'm hoping that now a deal has been agreed people can stop having a go at others over this Brexit thing and start looking forward.

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/brexit ... et-6873634

There was a farmer on Radio 5 yesterday. Asked what the best thing for her was from leaving the EU. She umned and aaahed and couldn't really name a single thing.
Nicky wotsit goaded her a bit on lost subsidies so she eventually came up with: We'll be able to cut our hedges and plough our fields whenever we like.

Great stuff. Don't let wildlife get in the way of a fast profit!!

Yes, I was listening to that interview, she was all for Brexit, because she was a farmer, but couldn’t name one benefit for HER, because of Brexit, and to be prompted.

Whereas, he bloke from Scotland, mentioned all the worse things about coming out of the EU.

The farmer, was another Brexiter, who hadn’t a clue was she was voting for.

She did have a clue about what she was voting for but didn't articulate herself in the best way. Your ignorance of what '...plough our fields whenever we like' really means shows that you don't actually have a clue. The EU 'tells' the farmer to only produce 'x' amount of product from their fields and pays them a subsidy in place of the earnings they would have expected to earn if they had continued ploughing their fields. Being out of the EU means that the farmer can now plough their fields whenever they like and possibly earn more by producing and selling more of their product. By being out of the EU the farmer no longer has to just stick to the quota the EU sets. Farmers are free to produce as much as they want and when they want. Also, regarding your last comment; I've yet to meet a person that voted to leave that didn't know why they voted as such. Your suggestion that there are a lot of people that don't know why they voted to leave is just another example of how clueless you are.

... and a Happy New Year Potty!!

...and to you Pogles. Even though I highlighted text from your comment I was actually replying to Martyn. People that say those that voted to leave didn't know what they were voting for get under my skin a bit. It suggests that those people are stupid and that is simply not the case. I'm hoping that now a deal has been agreed people can stop having a go at others over this Brexit thing and start looking forward.

Oh the irony! But you didn't know what you were voting for yourself! You confirmed that on another thread when you said the main benefit for you would be the European Court of Justice not interfering in UK criminal matters. They never were able to do so. It's uninformed people like you and Oldage that will be responsible for the country's inevitable decline.

Obsolete software from 1990s features in Brexit deal text

The EU-UK Brexit deal refers to defunct decades-old computer software such as Netscape Communicator as “modern”, raising suspicions that some of the text may have been copied and pasted in.

Online commenters gleefully shared the observation that page 921 of the painfully birthed trade agreement refers to Netscape Communicator – released in June 1997 – and Mozilla Mail as being “modern e-mail software packages”.

A section on encryption technology also gave rise to suspicions that officials simply pasted large chunks of text from previous documents into the deal, which has been lauded by its backers as the beginning of a new chapter in relationship between the UK and the EU. ...observers noted how the agreement recommended the use of 1024-bit RSA encryption and the SHA-1 hashing algorithm, both of which are susceptible to cyber-attacks on account of their age.

Truly world-beating. At least they didn't go quite as far back as Netscape Navigator, which was my first browser, excitedly installed along with my 14,400bps modem. (That's about 1/7,000th of my current connection speed of around 100Mbps.)

Not knowing all the details of Johnson’s ‘oven ready super-doper deal’.

If the ERG , including Rees-Mogg, that hypocrite David Davis, Bill Cash, Duncan-Smith, Liam Fox, and all think it is a very good deal, then heaven help us, it has already upset the people and fisherman of Cornwall, with the new laws, and no further future investment from the EU to Cornwall.

If the likes of them above, think it’s good, then we are in for some very tough times.

Not knowing all the details of Johnson’s ‘oven ready super-doper deal’.

If the ERG , including Rees-Mogg, that hypocrite David Davis, Bill Cash, Duncan-Smith, Liam Fox, and all think it is a very good deal, then heaven help us, it has already upset the people and fisherman of Cornwall, with the new laws, and no further future investment from the EU to Cornwall.

If the likes of them above, think it’s good, then we are in for some very tough times.

They think it's good ... for now. Much in the same way that the WA was good and IDS slapped down any talk of Parliamentary debate to go over the finer details ... and then he and the rest of the ERG complained and forced the Govt to almost break the terms of the Agreement they had approved 11 months previously.

There's been no Parliamentary scrutiny of this deal, and only small smatterings have come to the surface. That they've cut and pasted text from older documents (the Netscape fiasco Micky mentioned earlier) shows how quickly its been put together, and Parliament will be voting to approve something that nobody there seems really happy with.

I give it six months, and then members of the ERG will turn on the deal - and on BoJo - especially when they realise what they've signed up to.