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by Frank_Butcher
» 19:14 30 Dec 2020


MickyD wrote: Obsolete software from 1990s features in Brexit deal text

The EU-UK Brexit deal refers to defunct decades-old computer software such as Netscape Communicator as “modern”, raising suspicions that some of the text may have been copied and pasted in.

Online commenters gleefully shared the observation that page 921 of the painfully birthed trade agreement refers to Netscape Communicator – released in June 1997 – and Mozilla Mail as being “modern e-mail software packages”.

A section on encryption technology also gave rise to suspicions that officials simply pasted large chunks of text from previous documents into the deal, which has been lauded by its backers as the beginning of a new chapter in relationship between the UK and the EU. ...observers noted how the agreement recommended the use of 1024-bit RSA encryption and the SHA-1 hashing algorithm, both of which are susceptible to cyber-attacks on account of their age.

Truly world-beating. At least they didn't go quite as far back as Netscape Navigator, which was my first browser, excitedly installed along with my 14,400bps modem. (That's about 1/7,000th of my current connection speed of around 100Mbps.)


See it all the time - use of boilerplate material that doesn't get proof read. A tad embarrassing at Government levels, but am I surprised? No.

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by signalspast
» 18:36 31 Dec 2020


Well I am surprised a Brexit article in the guardian that I tend to agree with
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thegua ... conomic-uk

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by Pogleswoody
» 18:51 31 Dec 2020
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signalspast wrote: Well I am surprised a Brexit article in the guardian that I tend to agree with
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thegua ... conomic-uk


The manufacturing base has shrivelled. The City of London has prospered. Bigger North-South divide.

All brought about by the wicked EU. :furious:

Blimey, it's seems Maggie Thatcher was just a bad dream!! :lol:

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by signalspast
» 10:22 15 Jan 2021


MickyD wrote: Obsolete software from 1990s features in Brexit deal text

The EU-UK Brexit deal refers to defunct decades-old computer software such as Netscape Communicator as “modern”, raising suspicions that some of the text may have been copied and pasted in.

Online commenters gleefully shared the observation that page 921 of the painfully birthed trade agreement refers to Netscape Communicator – released in June 1997 – and Mozilla Mail as being “modern e-mail software packages”.

A section on encryption technology also gave rise to suspicions that officials simply pasted large chunks of text from previous documents into the deal, which has been lauded by its backers as the beginning of a new chapter in relationship between the UK and the EU. ...observers noted how the agreement recommended the use of 1024-bit RSA encryption and the SHA-1 hashing algorithm, both of which are susceptible to cyber-attacks on account of their age.

Truly world-beating. At least they didn't go quite as far back as Netscape Navigator, which was my first browser, excitedly installed along with my 14,400bps modem. (That's about 1/7,000th of my current connection speed of around 100Mbps.)


Yes truly world beating on behalf of the EU and not UK as they have now admitted that they done the copying and pasting.

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by Pottypilgrim
» 12:09 15 Jan 2021


Balham_Green wrote:
Pottypilgrim wrote:
Pogleswoody wrote:
Pottypilgrim wrote:
Martyn wrote:
Pogleswoody wrote: There was a farmer on Radio 5 yesterday. Asked what the best thing for her was from leaving the EU. She umned and aaahed and couldn't really name a single thing.
Nicky wotsit goaded her a bit on lost subsidies so she eventually came up with: We'll be able to cut our hedges and plough our fields whenever we like.

Great stuff. Don't let wildlife get in the way of a fast profit!! :whistle:


Yes, I was listening to that interview, she was all for Brexit, because she was a farmer, but couldn’t name one benefit for HER, because of Brexit, and to be prompted.

Whereas, he bloke from Scotland, mentioned all the worse things about coming out of the EU.

The farmer, was another Brexiter, who hadn’t a clue was she was voting for.


She did have a clue about what she was voting for but didn't articulate herself in the best way. Your ignorance of what '...plough our fields whenever we like' really means shows that you don't actually have a clue. The EU 'tells' the farmer to only produce 'x' amount of product from their fields and pays them a subsidy in place of the earnings they would have expected to earn if they had continued ploughing their fields. Being out of the EU means that the farmer can now plough their fields whenever they like and possibly earn more by producing and selling more of their product. By being out of the EU the farmer no longer has to just stick to the quota the EU sets. Farmers are free to produce as much as they want and when they want. Also, regarding your last comment; I've yet to meet a person that voted to leave that didn't know why they voted as such. Your suggestion that there are a lot of people that don't know why they voted to leave is just another example of how clueless you are.


... and a Happy New Year Potty!! :thumbs:


...and to you Pogles. Even though I highlighted text from your comment I was actually replying to Martyn. People that say those that voted to leave didn't know what they were voting for get under my skin a bit. It suggests that those people are stupid and that is simply not the case. I'm hoping that now a deal has been agreed people can stop having a go at others over this Brexit thing and start looking forward.


Oh the irony! But you didn't know what you were voting for yourself! You confirmed that on another thread when you said the main benefit for you would be the European Court of Justice not interfering in UK criminal matters. They never were able to do so. It's uninformed people like you and Oldage that will be responsible for the country's inevitable decline.


I did refer to the ECJ but that was a mistake on my part. I was meant to say the EC of Human Rights. The influence the ECHR had over our Supreme Court on criminal matters p*ssed me off. The influence the ECJ has over other matters also p*ssed me off. Also, I wonder if you will ever come back on here and accept you were wrong should our Country not go into decline. How someone can make that sort of declaration when we have only just left the EU beggars belief. Then again I remind myself of who actually posted that and all of a sudden it makes sense.

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by mervyn
» 13:25 15 Jan 2021


We’re already in decline. Just watch the 1.00 pm BBC news interview with the head of the Road Hauliers Association. Chaos now, and he thinks it’s going to get worse.
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by Quinny
» 14:46 15 Jan 2021


Pottypilgrim wrote: The influence the ECHR had over our Supreme Court on criminal matters p*ssed me off.


You do know what the purpose of the ECHR is, don't you? And that they have no power of enforcement on any judgement they pass down?
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by Ave_IT
» 15:15 15 Jan 2021


signalspast wrote: Well I am surprised a Brexit article in the guardian that I tend to agree with
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thegua ... conomic-uk

Then you should read the Guardian more - they do have all sorts articles from various people & perspectives. As a rule of thumb though .......when those on the far left and those on the far right agree about something then it's a crap idea. Brexit being a classic example.
Smarter people than I have been total idiots - and I've met them all.
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