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Re: The ball-boy incident (6 game ban for Kelly)

Posted: 12:27 19 Feb 2017
by Argy1e
chunkymonkey78 wrote: Massey, while looking like he was a good player (and maybe one to watch for Argyle in future?)

Orient signed him for 200k in the Summer. Don't think we'll be signing him any time soon.

Re: The ball-boy incident (6 game ban for Kelly)

Posted: 12:40 19 Feb 2017
by rsp4
Knibbsworth wrote: That's the problem with a lot of their badge thumping players, particularly the better ones. They won't lose sleep, and will be busy negotiating contracts with new League Two/One clubs in the summer. Leyton Orient the club will go down, but a lot of their players won't know non league - they will be signing for Stevenage, Wycombe, Cheltenham and Crawley, kissing their badge on the first game of next season.


Never a truer word spoken. This is the majority of.football players they dont give two hoots about the club. The Os fans will have to live with the conferance but not the players. We were there once so I feel.for.them.

The ref should have been tougher on Tuesday, Orient were only fighting for survival and dont get me.started on our defence!!!!

Re: The ball-boy incident (6 game ban for Kelly)

Posted: 03:07 20 Feb 2017
by green dreams
Larry David wrote: There is a lot of self righteous nonsense about Orients thuggery being written here! They are battling to stay in the League. If this was our situation wouldn't we want to see the players demonstrating a bit of fight and will to win rather than meekly lying down and accepting their fate?

They are in a massive hole and need to fight their way out of it. Webb running onto the pitch and celebrating their winner, who wouldn't love to see that if we were in their position?

I was at Charlton when Timar absolutely clattered their Centre Forward and only got booked, the guy basically never played again and Timar only got booked for what was a blatant sending off offence and we went on to win that game. Who amongst us didn't love Krisztian Timar.

Kelly was massively out of order and has got his just desserts, for the referee and his assistants to come out and say they didn't see it is ridiculous but par for the course, seems they didn't see much all game. The referee will keep his head down for a bit and be back officiating shortly when he should be apologising publicly for his abject performance.

How can Referees expect respect from players when there is so clearly little coming back with regard to respect for the paying public they represent?


If that charlton game was the away match on a tue/weds night I was at that game. The difference for me is that, although it absolutely should have been a red card and was an awful tackle, I never for 1 second felt like Timar purposely tried to injure him, he was just a bit of a clumsy oaf. I didn't get that same feeling in the Orient match, their players, to me, seemed like they were happy enough to injure us and that doesnt sit well with me. Emphasis on the "seemed" as I have no way to prove their intent or know for definite that it existed but thats how I felt.

Back to the original topic, I'm genuinely astounded that the ref has been allowed to blatently lie about seeing the incident. How is that even possible?

Re: The ball-boy incident (6 game ban for Kelly)

Posted: 05:35 20 Feb 2017
by jespafc
Metal_Green_Mickey wrote: Not sure about all this Orient bashing.

Seems to be blown out of all proportions.


Agreed.

It's pretty embarrassing really. I like Orient as a club and really hope they stay up.

We lost a game, sounds like it was undeserved, but move on. 27 pages for this thread....

Re: The ball-boy incident (6 game ban for Kelly)

Posted: 09:51 20 Feb 2017
by Adam_R
Argy1e wrote:
chunkymonkey78 wrote: Massey, while looking like he was a good player (and maybe one to watch for Argyle in future?)

Orient signed him for 200k in the Summer. Don't think we'll be signing him any time soon.


Don't think we need him, but I think in L1 and them in the Conference our chances would be increased!

Re: The ball-boy incident (6 game ban for Kelly)

Posted: 11:01 20 Feb 2017
by nick_PASTIE
We were in similar dire straits to Orient not that long ago and they need to scrap and battle to get what they can. They clearly overstept the mark last Tuesday and one of their players has been punished in a pretty harsh way, so hopefully others will learn. I wish no ill to their fans and the club overall. It wasn't too long ago that we had Simon Walton deliberately trying to injury oppo players (in my view) and the odd individual can always let the team down.

Re: The ball-boy incident (6 game ban for Kelly)

Posted: 12:28 20 Feb 2017
by Norwich Green
This doesn't seem to want to go away:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39027750

6 game ban is our fault somehow :facepalm:

Re: The ball-boy incident (6 game ban for Kelly)

Posted: 12:41 20 Feb 2017
by green dreams
Norwich Green wrote: This doesn't see to want to go away:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39027750

6 game ban is our fault somehow :facepalm:


Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but where he says "high moral standards" and "nerve" makes me think thats a dig at Luke? Like in the sense of, how dare we criticise their player when we have someone like Luke on our team, or am I just reading it wrong?

Re: The ball-boy incident (6 game ban for Kelly)

Posted: 12:44 20 Feb 2017
by landons forehead
green dreams wrote:
Norwich Green wrote: This doesn't see to want to go away:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39027750

6 game ban is our fault somehow :facepalm:


Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but where he says "high moral standards" and "nerve" makes me think thats a dig at Luke? Like in the sense of, how dare we criticise their player when we have someone like Luke on our team, or am I just reading it wrong?


That's how I read it.

Re: The ball-boy incident (6 game ban for Kelly)

Posted: 13:00 20 Feb 2017
by HongKongGreen
green dreams wrote:
Norwich Green wrote: This doesn't see to want to go away:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39027750

6 game ban is our fault somehow :facepalm:


Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but where he says "high moral standards" and "nerve" makes me think thats a dig at Luke? Like in the sense of, how dare we criticise their player when we have someone like Luke on our team, or am I just reading it wrong?


I read it exactly the same, very unclassy to be coming from their manager. Seems like an odd way of phrasing it if sarcasm isn't being implied, particulalry "such high moral standards as Plymouth". They certainly seem to be bitter about the whole situation. The lack of sincere apology, other than the club lawyers statement, and now this, leaves a real sour taste in my mouth.

Re: The ball-boy incident (6 game ban for Kelly)

Posted: 13:01 20 Feb 2017
by loyal1970
did that Kelly ever say sorry don't think he did what a nice man he is.

Re: The ball-boy incident (6 game ban for Kelly)

Posted: 13:08 20 Feb 2017
by xmastree
green dreams wrote:
Norwich Green wrote: This doesn't see to want to go away:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39027750

6 game ban is our fault somehow :facepalm:


Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but where he says "high moral standards" and "nerve" makes me think thats a dig at Luke? Like in the sense of, how dare we criticise their player when we have someone like Luke on our team, or am I just reading it wrong?


Like it or not, it IS how quite a few people in football (and outside it) view Argyle.

Re: The ball-boy incident (6 game ban for Kelly)

Posted: 13:11 20 Feb 2017
by green dreams
Glad it's not just me seeing it that way. As previously mentioned, very distasteful. Not a huge fan of how they've gone about this whole situation, definitely sour grapes from them just because they lose him for major relegation battles.
They can say its sour grapes on our part but even if we won it wouldn't change the fact that something had to be done about the situation.
They can say we've gone OTT but look at the DiCanio situation, if this happened in the prem it would be in every newspaper and sports news station in the country.