How is it a 'silly argument' that Lyon had more home grown players. Its a fact! What is a silly argument is that Bayern could benefit the English game more than Man. City. Obviously NOT. They are a German team. But they DO play a lot of German players - get it? And they make a profit every year and are member owned. Not relying on dodgy morally corrupt Middle East money. Still not one reason given as to how Man. City and the Super English clubs benefit the English game overall.

Last season England provided all four teams for UEFA's finals. Do you think that wasn't noticed around Europe?

If you have been to the area around The Etihad recently you will have noticed that that "dodgy morally corrupt Middle East money" has been put to excellent use.

'Excellent use' do me a favour. How many hundreds of millions have they wasted on the football team (whilst breaking the rules)?

How is it a 'silly argument' that Lyon had more home grown players. Its a fact! What is a silly argument is that Bayern could benefit the English game more than Man. City. Obviously NOT. They are a German team. But they DO play a lot of German players - get it? And they make a profit every year and are member owned. Not relying on dodgy morally corrupt Middle East money. Still not one reason given as to how Man. City and the Super English clubs benefit the English game overall.

It's a fact but only because some of the City players were dropped/out of form...Pep could have easily fielded Stones and Foden too which would have made it four My exact point, Bayern are a team full of Germans!! You'd rather support them than Man City, who as I just explained, have four England national team players, and are um, based in England!

How do the super clubs benefit English football? Okay, well if you get your wish, all the super clubs will go out in the first round. If you don't understand how that will impact English football, then there is no point debating it.

You just dont get it. Though it's pretty simple. The German teams give opportunities to their own players and surprise surprise their national team almost always does well. The English players are crowded out by the international superstars so dont get the opportunity to develop. Sancho being a good example - ironically going to a German team!. How hard is that to understand?! So no I will not and never will support the English teams that I have no affiliation with and are run to the detriment of the English national team and the football league in general. Not even to follow your argument because 'They are based in England' - Who cares? There are more important factors.
So tell me what impact would the English teams going out in the First Round have?

How is it a 'silly argument' that Lyon had more home grown players. Its a fact! What is a silly argument is that Bayern could benefit the English game more than Man. City. Obviously NOT. They are a German team. But they DO play a lot of German players - get it? And they make a profit every year and are member owned. Not relying on dodgy morally corrupt Middle East money. Still not one reason given as to how Man. City and the Super English clubs benefit the English game overall.

It's a fact but only because some of the City players were dropped/out of form...Pep could have easily fielded Stones and Foden too which would have made it four My exact point, Bayern are a team full of Germans!! You'd rather support them than Man City, who as I just explained, have four England national team players, and are um, based in England!

How do the super clubs benefit English football? Okay, well if you get your wish, all the super clubs will go out in the first round. If you don't understand how that will impact English football, then there is no point debating it.

You just dont get it. Though it's pretty simple. The German teams give opportunities to their own players and surprise surprise their national team almost always does well. The English players are crowded out by the international superstars so dont get the opportunity to develop. Sancho being a good example - ironically going to a German team!. How hard is that to understand?! So no I will not and never will support the English teams that I have no affiliation with and are run to the detriment of the English national team and the football league in general. Not even to follow your argument because 'They are based in England' - Who cares? There are more important factors.
So tell me what impact would the English teams going out in the First Round have?

Why should a club be run for the benefit of the National team? Why should a club be charitable to other English clubs? Why should teams not be picked on merit the same as Ryan Lowe picks his?

How is it a 'silly argument' that Lyon had more home grown players. Its a fact! What is a silly argument is that Bayern could benefit the English game more than Man. City. Obviously NOT. They are a German team. But they DO play a lot of German players - get it? And they make a profit every year and are member owned. Not relying on dodgy morally corrupt Middle East money. Still not one reason given as to how Man. City and the Super English clubs benefit the English game overall.

It's a fact but only because some of the City players were dropped/out of form...Pep could have easily fielded Stones and Foden too which would have made it four My exact point, Bayern are a team full of Germans!! You'd rather support them than Man City, who as I just explained, have four England national team players, and are um, based in England!

How do the super clubs benefit English football? Okay, well if you get your wish, all the super clubs will go out in the first round. If you don't understand how that will impact English football, then there is no point debating it.

You just dont get it. Though it's pretty simple. The German teams give opportunities to their own players and surprise surprise their national team almost always does well. The English players are crowded out by the international superstars so dont get the opportunity to develop. Sancho being a good example - ironically going to a German team!. How hard is that to understand?! So no I will not and never will support the English teams that I have no affiliation with and are run to the detriment of the English national team and the football league in general. Not even to follow your argument because 'They are based in England' - Who cares? There are more important factors.
So tell me what impact would the English teams going out in the First Round have?

Why should a club be run for the benefit of the National team? Why should a club be charitable to other English clubs? Why should teams not be picked on merit the same as Ryan Lowe picks his?

The League should be run for the benefit of the national team not the opposite. Why should a club NOT be charitable? Prem clubs have more than enough money to strengthen the grassroots. Team should be picked on merit with a core of English players.

What a load of bull. Why should the Leagues be run for the benefit of Gareth Southgate? If they were then they would already have gone down the road of academy teams playing in the EFL which is something that nobody wants to see and rightly so.

I think you'll find that the Premier League DOES support more than enough grass roots projects. You seem to want them to support the EFL as well though. The EFL isn't grass roots.

As for your idea on team selection, why would anyone not want their club to field the best team possible?

What a load of bull. Why should the Leagues be run for the benefit of Gareth Southgate? If they were then they would already have gone down the road of academy teams playing in the EFL which is something that nobody wants to see and rightly so.

I think you'll find that the Premier League DOES support more than enough grass roots projects. You seem to want them to support the EFL as well though. The EFL isn't grass roots.

As for your idea on team selection, why would anyone not want their club to field the best team possible?

I think you'll find the Prem does NOT support more than enough grass roots projects. Just a tiny fraction of its income.' Not seem to want to support the EFL!' Absolutely they should to make the leagues stronger all around and so that the likes of Bury don't go out of business for the want of one week's superstars salary. So that the rich dont get richer and everybody else like Argyle gets left behind or almost goes bust trying to compete. We all know the idea of the Prem was to ring fence the money.
What is more important - a foreign owned superclub (realistically only about 3 or 4) getting to the latter rounds of Europe or England doing well. I know which I prefer.

What a load of bull. Why should the Leagues be run for the benefit of Gareth Southgate? If they were then they would already have gone down the road of academy teams playing in the EFL which is something that nobody wants to see and rightly so.

I think you'll find that the Premier League DOES support more than enough grass roots projects. You seem to want them to support the EFL as well though. The EFL isn't grass roots.

As for your idea on team selection, why would anyone not want their club to field the best team possible?

Let's see how many lower league clubs go under and how much the Premier League does to stop it happening. The square root of nothing at all I imagine.

What a load of bull. Why should the Leagues be run for the benefit of Gareth Southgate? If they were then they would already have gone down the road of academy teams playing in the EFL which is something that nobody wants to see and rightly so.

I think you'll find that the Premier League DOES support more than enough grass roots projects. You seem to want them to support the EFL as well though. The EFL isn't grass roots.

As for your idea on team selection, why would anyone not want their club to field the best team possible?

I think you'll find the Prem does NOT support more than enough grass roots projects. Just a tiny fraction of its income.' Not seem to want to support the EFL!' Absolutely they should to make the leagues stronger all around and so that the likes of Bury don't go out of business for the want of one week's superstars salary. So that the rich dont get richer and everybody else like Argyle gets left behind or almost goes bust trying to compete. We all know the idea of the Prem was to ring fence the money.
What is more important - a foreign owned superclub (realistically only about 3 or 4) getting to the latter rounds of Europe or England doing well. I know which I prefer.

Around £1 million per club per year goes to community projects at grass roots level which is not an insignificant amount of money but of course more would not go amiss.

The only money that is ringfenced from the Premier League is that which goes to EFL clubs in solidarity payments (around £5 million per club). Clubs are then free to spend their income how they please.

What a load of bull. Why should the Leagues be run for the benefit of Gareth Southgate? If they were then they would already have gone down the road of academy teams playing in the EFL which is something that nobody wants to see and rightly so.

I think you'll find that the Premier League DOES support more than enough grass roots projects. You seem to want them to support the EFL as well though. The EFL isn't grass roots.

As for your idea on team selection, why would anyone not want their club to field the best team possible?

Let's see how many lower league clubs go under and how much the Premier League does to stop it happening. The square root of nothing at all I imagine.

You're probably right. Premier League clubs will claim their turnovers are down as well, which obviously they are. Lets not pretend that the Premier League as a body are awash with money. Their existence is to distribute the income to the member clubs rather than keep a pot for the rainy day which is well and truly here. Such a pot doesn't exist.