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by Quintrell_Green
» 09:36 08 Jan 2021


My paper has bags of editorial on this game today. It will be interesting to see if DA sets up his team ultra defensively as he did with Argyle when paying away to Liverpool in the FA Cup and forcing a replay at HP. Arguably this result was DA's biggest contribution to Argyle by generating the turnover through the gate.
Apparently Morecambe have a young Senegalese winger called Gomes, who was once on Athletico Madrid's books, but came to the UK to study engineering in Manchester. He was seen playing for his College's team after a tip-off/recommendation and was signed up by Morecambe. It will be interesting to see how this young chap performs on the big stage

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by GreenThing
» 16:47 08 Jan 2021
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You say that it was possibly Adams’ biggest contribution to Argyle. While I think you might be right, it was also Adams’ downfall. We got the result we wanted by shutting up shop, but Adams then applied these tactics in all matches. It was the right thing to do against Liverpool, but not in the league.

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by HC Green
» 17:07 08 Jan 2021


GreenThing wrote: You say that it was possibly Adams’ biggest contribution to Argyle. While I think you might be right, it was also Adams’ downfall. We got the result we wanted by shutting up shop, but Adams then applied these tactics in all matches. It was the right thing to do against Liverpool, but not in the league.


Did he really use those tactics in the league for the rest of the season, if he did at least we got promoted using them and even managed to score 3 against Exeter and 6 against Newport along the way all by shutting up shop apparently.

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HC Green wrote:
GreenThing wrote: You say that it was possibly Adams’ biggest contribution to Argyle. While I think you might be right, it was also Adams’ downfall. We got the result we wanted by shutting up shop, but Adams then applied these tactics in all matches. It was the right thing to do against Liverpool, but not in the league.


Did he really use those tactics in the league for the rest of the season, if he did at least we got promoted using them and even managed to score 3 against Exeter and 6 against Newport along the way all by shutting up shop apparently.


Maybe not every game, but seemed to be the preferred tactics to shut up shop and catch the opposition on the break. He seemed a lot more attack minded when he first arrived.

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by Willis88
» 19:43 08 Jan 2021


HC Green wrote:
GreenThing wrote: You say that it was possibly Adams’ biggest contribution to Argyle. While I think you might be right, it was also Adams’ downfall. We got the result we wanted by shutting up shop, but Adams then applied these tactics in all matches. It was the right thing to do against Liverpool, but not in the league.


Did he really use those tactics in the league for the rest of the season, if he did at least we got promoted using them and even managed to score 3 against Exeter and 6 against Newport along the way all by shutting up shop apparently.


He certainly did it when we were in L1.

Yes there were a few high scoring games, but nearly every time we were leading in the 2nd half a defender came on for a striker and we ended up conceding a 1 goal lead.

You can't choose 2 games as a sample when there are dozens more when the shop was shut but the front door wasn't closed properly and the opposition got in.

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by HC Green
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Willis88 wrote:
HC Green wrote:
GreenThing wrote: You say that it was possibly Adams’ biggest contribution to Argyle. While I think you might be right, it was also Adams’ downfall. We got the result we wanted by shutting up shop, but Adams then applied these tactics in all matches. It was the right thing to do against Liverpool, but not in the league.


Did he really use those tactics in the league for the rest of the season, if he did at least we got promoted using them and even managed to score 3 against Exeter and 6 against Newport along the way all by shutting up shop apparently.


He certainly did it when we were in L1.

Yes there were a few high scoring games, but nearly every time we were leading in the 2nd half a defender came on for a striker and we ended up conceding a 1 goal lead.

You can't choose 2 games as a sample when there are dozens more when the shop was shut but the front door wasn't closed properly and the opposition got in.


It was said ‘all games’ I was simply pointing out that was patently not factually correct.

I realise some people are still attempting to rewrite history so I just like to fact check their fake news.

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HC Green wrote: I realise some people are still attempting to rewrite history so I just like to fact check their fake news.


That’s a bit dramatic. There’s no fake news or re-writing of history going on, just opinions on a football forum.

When Adams arrived I thought it was great to see some attacking football, but Adams appeared to take up a defensive mindset after the tactics worked against Liverpool. I believe that the Liverpool result effected Derek’s mindset and led to his downfall.

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HC Green wrote:
Willis88 wrote:
HC Green wrote:
GreenThing wrote: You say that it was possibly Adams’ biggest contribution to Argyle. While I think you might be right, it was also Adams’ downfall. We got the result we wanted by shutting up shop, but Adams then applied these tactics in all matches. It was the right thing to do against Liverpool, but not in the league.


Did he really use those tactics in the league for the rest of the season, if he did at least we got promoted using them and even managed to score 3 against Exeter and 6 against Newport along the way all by shutting up shop apparently.


He certainly did it when we were in L1.

Yes there were a few high scoring games, but nearly every time we were leading in the 2nd half a defender came on for a striker and we ended up conceding a 1 goal lead.

You can't choose 2 games as a sample when there are dozens more when the shop was shut but the front door wasn't closed properly and the opposition got in.


It was said ‘all games’ I was simply pointing out that was patently not factually correct.

I realise some people are still attempting to rewrite history so I just like to fact check their fake news.


Better to rewrite history than continuing to live in an historical context.

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by Knibbsworth
» 20:28 09 Jan 2021


GreenThing wrote:
HC Green wrote: I realise some people are still attempting to rewrite history so I just like to fact check their fake news.


That’s a bit dramatic. There’s no fake news or re-writing of history going on, just opinions on a football forum.

When Adams arrived I thought it was great to see some attacking football, but Adams appeared to take up a defensive mindset after the tactics worked against Liverpool. I believe that the Liverpool result effected Derek’s mindset and led to his downfall.


We'd have stayed up but something happened behind the scenes in the final 5-10 games. Why the players didn't seem to care, I'll never know.

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» 13:56 10 Jan 2021
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Slew and Songo in action (one down at the moment).

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by Ottawa Green
» 14:50 10 Jan 2021
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Chelsea win 4-0.

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» 21:48 10 Jan 2021
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Knibbsworth wrote:
GreenThing wrote:
HC Green wrote: I realise some people are still attempting to rewrite history so I just like to fact check their fake news.


That’s a bit dramatic. There’s no fake news or re-writing of history going on, just opinions on a football forum.

When Adams arrived I thought it was great to see some attacking football, but Adams appeared to take up a defensive mindset after the tactics worked against Liverpool. I believe that the Liverpool result effected Derek’s mindset and led to his downfall.


We'd have stayed up but something happened behind the scenes in the final 5-10 games. Why the players didn't seem to care, I'll never know.

Some people do, and maybe one day a book might come out.
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» 22:46 10 Jan 2021


Keepitgreen wrote:
Knibbsworth wrote:
GreenThing wrote:
HC Green wrote: I realise some people are still attempting to rewrite history so I just like to fact check their fake news.


That’s a bit dramatic. There’s no fake news or re-writing of history going on, just opinions on a football forum.

When Adams arrived I thought it was great to see some attacking football, but Adams appeared to take up a defensive mindset after the tactics worked against Liverpool. I believe that the Liverpool result effected Derek’s mindset and led to his downfall.


We'd have stayed up but something happened behind the scenes in the final 5-10 games. Why the players didn't seem to care, I'll never know.

Some people do, and maybe one day a book might come out.


If people are afraid to mention it now when virtually everyone involved has moved on, they probably won’t in 5 or 10 years either.
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