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Babararacucudada":2uuev8ab said:
I agree.... despite the debts of clubs, there are billions flowing into the English game (well, mainly the Premier League), how the clubs manage their finances is up to them. You never saw players complain about low wages before the influx of foreign players 15 years ago.
Pretty much. They know how to 'play' the game. I'd like to see the PFA accept some responsibility for the way the game's going though and negotiate some sort of pay structure with the FA. The image of the game would increase ten-fold if the top players showed a bit of respectability, responsibility and humanity for a change.Clarke_B":tizw9wpq said:
Green_Matt":e0itxwmq said:
and watch all the top players sod off to the continent? Or maybe that wouldn't be such a bad thing.
Exactly, why would it be a bad thing? As long as England's players play here who cares? Only a small percentage of real fans get to see the top players in the flesh anyway, if you want to watch them on tv it makes no difference if they're playing for Man City or Grampus Eight, so you're not depriving anyone of anything. The 'best league in the world' mantra is just propaganda spread by Sky etc who have something to sell.crownhillpilgrim":3t9uqtu0 said:
Of course their wages are fair. The market is governed by supply and demand. There is huge demand for quality footballers and a small supply, therefore the cost of the players rises.
If us fans didn't demand so much football, and there were thousands of quality players, wage levels would be a lot lower
And imagine you are working in Tesco on the checkout for £5 per hour, and Asda come along and offer you £15 per hour to do the same job, would you say 'no, that is too much money'? Somehow I don't think so
If us fans didn't demand so much football, and there were thousands of quality players, wage levels would be a lot lower
And imagine you are working in Tesco on the checkout for £5 per hour, and Asda come along and offer you £15 per hour to do the same job, would you say 'no, that is too much money'? Somehow I don't think so
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penzancepirate":1jhhn696 said:
Thank you pp, that's the nicest thing you've ever said to me. :lol:
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penzancepirate":23cbfkk3 said:
I can't see that having any effect. I remember reading somewhere that the top earners were setting up off-the-shelf companies and having their wages paid into those companies for 'services rendered'. The companies of course were registered in tax havens. Thing is, who's going to kick up a fuss about it? The Murdoch press? Nah, News International pay virtually no tax in the UK. Even the Guardian benefits from exploiting tax laws.
Yes, it's the capitalist model at work. Of course we'd all like a pay rise and yes the players are not necessarily to be blamed for accepting the offers. But they are part of the problem by identifying the potential and then demanding it. What would be better is if the wealth was shared out a bit more but if you're happy for the world's 1% to get richer while the rest of us are played like mugs then that's up to you.dani_B":3355vpr9 said: