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oggyale
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tonycholwell":1ifoarcd said:
Very true,especially concerning the Premier League.
I said many years ago in the 'Rub of The Greens' that England teams of the future would be made up of lower League players (possibly CCC/League 1),that has not happened as yet,but it surely can't be that far off,and that would be a major concern to all..
Once the current team start to retire from International football,England could be struggling for replacements of a certain standard.
One of the benefits touted by the PL spinmeisters when it was created was that the national side would benefit.
That seems quite laughable now. The Kaiser is right.
That seems quite laughable now. The Kaiser is right.
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andyr1963
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Very similar article here http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 00580.html
I did not know that most of the other major leagues had been using this new ball since febuary. And that we haven't used it because the English leagues are under contract with Nike to provide the balls. :shock:
But, it is only the german Becks opinion innit, it's not like he has won much over the years, bledy loser, he even lost THE world cup final in '66 :lol:
I did not know that most of the other major leagues had been using this new ball since febuary. And that we haven't used it because the English leagues are under contract with Nike to provide the balls. :shock:
But, it is only the german Becks opinion innit, it's not like he has won much over the years, bledy loser, he even lost THE world cup final in '66 :lol:
It's a little early to start writing England off after one games isn't it? Yes the German's looked very impressive in their first game but surely his comments would have more bearing on the state of English football if he had made them at the end of the world cup with England doing badly.
As for young English players coming through, James Milner will soon become world class, Joe Hart?, I'm sure as one oldie leaves the team over the next few year a younger player will fill his boots. Let's not predict the future with doom and gloom just yet. For as long as I've watched fooball England have always been in or around the top 10 teams in the world. Can anyone really see that changing?
As for young English players coming through, James Milner will soon become world class, Joe Hart?, I'm sure as one oldie leaves the team over the next few year a younger player will fill his boots. Let's not predict the future with doom and gloom just yet. For as long as I've watched fooball England have always been in or around the top 10 teams in the world. Can anyone really see that changing?
As much as I despise what the PL has become it doesnât make sense blaming it for Englandâs problems â we werenât exactly world beaters in the 70âs & 80âs when we didnât even qualify on occasions. At the moment we have got some decent players â much better than back then when we kidded ourselves the likes of Mick Channon was world class. To my surprise on Radio 5 there was a German journalist saying that in Germany the opinions of âthe Kaiserâ are considered a bit of a joke as they change virtually from day to day. They then played a clip of him saying a just few weeks ago how Cappello had transformed Englandâs style and they could win the World Cup.
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Gareth Nicholson
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If England's problems were down to the Premier League it would be easy to fix. They're not.
Some might say it's because of an insular 'we know better' attitude that celebrated firstly work ethic and now individual skill or 'passion' over perfection of technique. There's a case to be made that we stopped learning in the 1950s, allowing virtually every Western European nation and many others to overtake us in churning out footballers whose first thought when receiving the ball wasn't 'how the hell am I going to control this' but rather 'where is it going next'.
Some might say it's because of an insular 'we know better' attitude that celebrated firstly work ethic and now individual skill or 'passion' over perfection of technique. There's a case to be made that we stopped learning in the 1950s, allowing virtually every Western European nation and many others to overtake us in churning out footballers whose first thought when receiving the ball wasn't 'how the hell am I going to control this' but rather 'where is it going next'.
Considering 2 Poles and a Brazilian scored for them, as well as having a Turk who got man of the match, and another Turk playing for them... Yes there may be not a large proportion of English players in the Premier League, but at least we don't poach other nations players.
Peter Ryan":3gzdpf9k said:
What a load of cobblers.... a 1-1 draw against U.S.A and everyone is predicting the end of English football as we know it. What a bunch of tabloid-mentality drama queens people in this country are.
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oggyale
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Clarke_B":3pkcga9y said:
That might be the case,but how many of these young stars will eventually be loaned out to CCC sides,and lower,in order to enhance their careers.
This will not benefit the England team at all (as they slowly slide down the World rankings),we all know what the Prem really think of the England team as it is.....
oggyale":2rbzj69h said:
I thought we'd gone up the world rankings in the last 2 years.... though you're obviously not bothered Oggy, with your Brazilian flag avatar
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crownhillpilgrim":1mly8ve7 said:oggyale":1mly8ve7 said:
I thought we'd gone up the world rankings in the last 2 years.... though you're obviously not bothered Oggy, with your Brazilian flag avatar
Well Brazil are a class act though. Let's hope we play them in the final?.
I have changed the flag now. It was due for a change anyway.
Gareth Nicholson":3pd3v0xv said:
I think there is something deep in our football culture thatâs a problem. How come the Dutch with fraction of our population churn out technically superior players generation after generation? We do produce top players but with the odd rare exceptions (Rooney and Joe Cole in this generation) they are not capable of the technical levels that even apparently bulk standard players achieve from other countries. The likes of Gerrard, Lampard, Milner, Barry, Lennon, SWP etc. are all truly outstanding in their own way but not at instantly controlling the ball and playing it quickly and accurately to retain possession in a way that comes so naturally to many foreign players. They all require a higher tempo âpressingâ game to shine and that doesnât often happen at international level against top flight opposition who simply refuse to give you the ball.
Trevor Brooking always goes on about the coaching standards of kids and school football and I canât help thinking the problem is there. My own lad (nearly 7) loves football and went to his first âtournamentâ recently for under-7s. He (and I) both loved it but it was very competitive, and the emphasis was on âkeep your positionâ, âbe strongâ, âpass it quicklyâ, âTACKLE HIM!!â etc. etc. All fast and furious and I admit I was as bad as anyone (worse probably) getting excited and shouting those sort of things from the sidelines. Like I say the kids and parents had a thoroughly enjoyable day (about 6 hours) and in terms of getting the kids doing something active and enjoying sport it was a success. In terms of developing football skills and technique it was a complete disaster â they learned to be quick and strong and move the ball quickly forward. I donât know the answer and donât know what they do in Holland & Spain but is it any wonder we produce thrusting midfielders in the Gerrard mould rather than the likes of Xavi and Iniesta who wonât even let him get the ball?