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Thoroughly under-whelmed by everything I've heard and read so far! Aims and objectives are far too woolly the membership rate far too cheap to achieve anything meaningful and far too many wannabe politicians.

A "board of 12" FFS. Five people are required - enough to run a vote with, enough to make progress quickly. Good communications structure needed and clear aims and objectives. That way you give your money, knowing where it is going and who is going to be using it. This way all you need is a failed politician with a Henry Fonda complex and suddenly we're all screwed - again.

Get rid of the (sorry Lee) local hobby horse lot. Pick a board of people who know what they're doing and have a proven football and or business background and start afresh. You also need a chairman with a bit of profile in the business - a Mickey Evans type.

Less Vicar of Dibley more Sopranos

You'll be wanting to stand in the forthcoming election then Mark.

the politicians of plymouth are rather young,inexperienced and naive..exept for gary streeter...who is rather old,very experienced,and not that interested in argyle which is not that strange...Streeter is looking to retire as a conservative.with a nice pension...he is not going to wreck any boats...just going with the flow

Vivienne Pengelly will thank you for that, she's actually older than Gary Streeter. However let's not turn this into a political issue. Take it for what it is. Support for Plymouth Argyle.

I notice there is much more traffic on the Trust website today after the Herald published the website address. Guys you could really do with getting the application form online to take advantage of this!

Thoroughly under-whelmed by everything I've heard and read so far! Aims and objectives are far too woolly the membership rate far too cheap to achieve anything meaningful and far too many wannabe politicians.

A "board of 12" FFS. Five people are required - enough to run a vote with, enough to make progress quickly. Good communications structure needed and clear aims and objectives. That way you give your money, knowing where it is going and who is going to be using it. This way all you need is a failed politician with a Henry Fonda complex and suddenly we're all screwed - again.

Get rid of the (sorry Lee) local hobby horse lot. Pick a board of people who know what they're doing and have a proven football and or business background and start afresh. You also need a chairman with a bit of profile in the business - a Mickey Evans type.

Less Vicar of Dibley more Sopranos

I agree.

Far too pally pally with the board IMHO too, the club is flipped and the trust is cosying up to them. At this point in time the Trust should be up in arms about whats going on at HP, if not now, When?

What would it take to cause an upset ffs, if not: the club selling all its best players, asking for support (only to protect "investments"), whilst going into financial meltdown & out of existance. They're destroying any good name PAFC had. Its revolting.

The Trust should be holding the Board to account for their shambolic decisions & actions. In the same way Pasoti asks the difficult questions and uncovers "inside info", the Trust surely must be the thing that "Keeps em honest" in the Boardroom. Selling HP to a holding company which then bleeds all the profit is a disgrace, especially when we were originally told it was to fund the promotion push. Its so bad its laughable.

Thoroughly under-whelmed by everything I've heard and read so far! Aims and objectives are far too woolly the membership rate far too cheap to achieve anything meaningful and far too many wannabe politicians.

A "board of 12" FFS. Five people are required - enough to run a vote with, enough to make progress quickly. Good communications structure needed and clear aims and objectives. That way you give your money, knowing where it is going and who is going to be using it. This way all you need is a failed politician with a Henry Fonda complex and suddenly we're all screwed - again.

Get rid of the (sorry Lee) local hobby horse lot. Pick a board of people who know what they're doing and have a proven football and or business background and start afresh. You also need a chairman with a bit of profile in the business - a Mickey Evans type.

Less Vicar of Dibley more Sopranos

I think you're extremely ungrateful in a lot of the above. And perhaps didn't understand the need to rush this whole process into action and tidy it all up afterwards.

Jackie from SD said that this process usually takes 6-12 months. For these guys to have it all up in running in 1 month there had to be corners cut. One such corner cutting was in the rules/objectives/blah blah. They're going to be replaced by a new set when SD have finalised them - of which IIRC Jackie is a part of as the lawyer over seeing it.

Apologies if your post was a Whoosh attempt, if that's the case i'm in hook line and sinker BUT warring factions aside these guys have done a great job thus far.

Thoroughly under-whelmed by everything I've heard and read so far! Aims and objectives are far too woolly the membership rate far too cheap to achieve anything meaningful and far too many wannabe politicians.

A "board of 12" FFS. Five people are required - enough to run a vote with, enough to make progress quickly. Good communications structure needed and clear aims and objectives. That way you give your money, knowing where it is going and who is going to be using it. This way all you need is a failed politician with a Henry Fonda complex and suddenly we're all screwed - again.

Get rid of the (sorry Lee) local hobby horse lot. Pick a board of people who know what they're doing and have a proven football and or business background and start afresh. You also need a chairman with a bit of profile in the business - a Mickey Evans type.

Less Vicar of Dibley more Sopranos

I think you're extremely ungrateful in a lot of the above. And perhaps didn't understand the need to rush this whole process into action and tidy it all up afterwards.

Jackie from SD said that this process usually takes 6-12 months. For these guys to have it all up in running in 1 month there had to be corners cut. One such corner cutting was in the rules/objectives/blah blah. They're going to be replaced by a new set when SD have finalised them - of which IIRC Jackie is a part of as the lawyer over seeing it.

Apologies if your post was a Whoosh attempt, if that's the case i'm in hook line and sinker BUT warring factions aside these guys have done a great job thus far.

Surely if you're trying to gain support for something, its "Aims and Ojectives" need to be a high priority, otherwise how will people know what they're supporting?

[Mark Pedlar]

Thoroughly under-whelmed by everything I've heard and read so far! Aims and objectives are far too woolly the membership rate far too cheap to achieve anything meaningful and far too many wannabe politicians.

A "board of 12" FFS. Five people are required - enough to run a vote with, enough to make progress quickly. Good communications structure needed and clear aims and objectives. That way you give your money, knowing where it is going and who is going to be using it. This way all you need is a failed politician with a Henry Fonda complex and suddenly we're all screwed - again.

Get rid of the (sorry Lee) local hobby horse lot. Pick a board of people who know what they're doing and have a proven football and or business background and start afresh. You also need a chairman with a bit of profile in the business - a Mickey Evans type.

Less Vicar of Dibley more Sopranos

I think you're extremely ungrateful in a lot of the above. And perhaps didn't understand the need to rush this whole process into action and tidy it all up afterwards.

Jackie from SD said that this process usually takes 6-12 months. For these guys to have it all up in running in 1 month there had to be corners cut. One such corner cutting was in the rules/objectives/blah blah. They're going to be replaced by a new set when SD have finalised them - of which IIRC Jackie is a part of as the lawyer over seeing it.

Apologies if your post was a Whoosh attempt, if that's the case i'm in hook line and sinker BUT warring factions aside these guys have done a great job thus far.

I didnt criticise the speed of setting it up although to be honest there's very little the Trust will be able to do about anything until the summer.

When asking for money some objectives would have been top of the list - what on earth am I contributing to?

"Ungrateful" - uh? Why should I be grateful?

The membership application form is now available on the trust website. Well done guys!

Thoroughly under-whelmed by everything I've heard and read so far! Aims and objectives are far too woolly the membership rate far too cheap to achieve anything meaningful and far too many wannabe politicians.

A "board of 12" FFS. Five people are required - enough to run a vote with, enough to make progress quickly. Good communications structure needed and clear aims and objectives. That way you give your money, knowing where it is going and who is going to be using it. This way all you need is a failed politician with a Henry Fonda complex and suddenly we're all screwed - again.

Get rid of the (sorry Lee) local hobby horse lot. Pick a board of people who know what they're doing and have a proven football and or business background and start afresh. You also need a chairman with a bit of profile in the business - a Mickey Evans type.

Less Vicar of Dibley more Sopranos

I think you're extremely ungrateful in a lot of the above. And perhaps didn't understand the need to rush this whole process into action and tidy it all up afterwards.

Jackie from SD said that this process usually takes 6-12 months. For these guys to have it all up in running in 1 month there had to be corners cut. One such corner cutting was in the rules/objectives/blah blah. They're going to be replaced by a new set when SD have finalised them - of which IIRC Jackie is a part of as the lawyer over seeing it.

Apologies if your post was a Whoosh attempt, if that's the case i'm in hook line and sinker BUT warring factions aside these guys have done a great job thus far.

So the Steering Committee are setting the Rules & Aims & Objectives?

Thoroughly under-whelmed by everything I've heard and read so far! Aims and objectives are far too woolly the membership rate far too cheap to achieve anything meaningful and far too many wannabe politicians.

A "board of 12" FFS. Five people are required - enough to run a vote with, enough to make progress quickly. Good communications structure needed and clear aims and objectives. That way you give your money, knowing where it is going and who is going to be using it. This way all you need is a failed politician with a Henry Fonda complex and suddenly we're all screwed - again.

Get rid of the (sorry Lee) local hobby horse lot. Pick a board of people who know what they're doing and have a proven football and or business background and start afresh. You also need a chairman with a bit of profile in the business - a Mickey Evans type.

Less Vicar of Dibley more Sopranos

I think you're extremely ungrateful in a lot of the above. And perhaps didn't understand the need to rush this whole process into action and tidy it all up afterwards.

Jackie from SD said that this process usually takes 6-12 months. For these guys to have it all up in running in 1 month there had to be corners cut. One such corner cutting was in the rules/objectives/blah blah. They're going to be replaced by a new set when SD have finalised them - of which IIRC Jackie is a part of as the lawyer over seeing it.

Apologies if your post was a Whoosh attempt, if that's the case i'm in hook line and sinker BUT warring factions aside these guys have done a great job thus far.

Hang on a minute, i have asked a reasonable question on this board as this was the board that was used to advertise the meeting whats the problem with that?

Then someone else raising concerns and you immediately jump on them too. You aren't going to win any friends by being so defensive when people raise genuine concerns.

I wont be joining the trust thanks.

I think the Interim Committee have done a fantastic job to get this so far so quickly.

I did notice that the majority of those present on Saturday were in the older age bracket and I think (without wishing to cause offence) that many do not understand the need for constitutions/rules and regulations/lawyers and the like.

I believe that a good number of those present were there hoping we were going to overthrow the board and sail off into the sunset with a safe, secure and successful PAFC, just because someone had formed a Trust. No sense of reality I guess, and certainly no concept of the true situation we are in.

I think the Interim Committee have done a fantastic job to get this so far so quickly.

I did notice that the majority of those present on Saturday were in the older age bracket and I think (without wishing to cause offence) that many do not understand the need for constitutions/rules and regulations/lawyers and the like.

I believe that a good number of those present were there hoping we were going to overthrow the board and sail off into the sunset with a safe, secure and successful PAFC, just because someone had formed a Trust. No sense of reality I guess, and certainly no concept of the true situation we are in.

No but we do understand the logic on supporting the LOCAL football team and NOT some overpaid divas that play in a shocking red op north somewhere.