All initiatives to help the club are welcomed by me. I hope that if the unspeakable were to happen all Argyle supporting groups,trust,supporters clubs and taverners would be able to work together. From IJN's comments earlier that shouldn't be a problem but I'm sure someone will find one.

Good luck Taverners!

Having met members of the Green Taverners at the game yesterday I welcome this impressive initiative and their unsung support for the club.

I have signed up and donated and I hope many others will do the same. I look forward to working with them on behalf of the Trust for the benefit of the club and supporters.

[Andy_S]

In true Tony Cholwell sceptic tradition, what does this mean ?

as well as help out with various other services around the club.

Does this mean the Big Siciety is coming to Plymouth Argyle ?
I thought the Lions routine was passee these days... is the new resurgent club expecting turnstile operators to work for nothing while directors sup on their free fare ?

Amazing how some organisations get the thumbs up by some fans and some don't. Just sounds like competition for the Supporters' Trust to me, and probably intended so. Not for me.

What exactly is for you other than the 1970's?

Pete ... this whole idea is the 1970s. It's old hat and allows a few old blokes to dress up now and again. Youngsters don't bother with such stuff... and let's be honest here, it's not cool.

What "Lions routine" would that be then? "Allows a few old blokes to "dress up" now and again"?

Please, tell me more about Lions Jack. Sounds like a very interesting organisation to belong to.

Fill our hearts and minds with your superior knowledge Jack - you know you want to.


Back on thread, £299 for the Hartlepool trip? I'd have been on it like a shot!

Good on 'em.

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Still waiting for an answer Jack.

Being of a socialist persuasion I am all for helping the disadvantaged and redistributing wealth, and the best way to do that is taxation. Sadly the new government want to drive a horse and coaches through that, so that the poor will then have to rely on volunteers, not professionals.
Aside from that rant, I am not totally against charity, gawd knows I've done enough work for certain charities over the years, but I call a halt in my support with certain bodies. I had a pop at the Lions/Rotary diners model of charity because they are often stuffed full of local businesmen 'wanting to 'do good' while at the same time lobbying for lower personal taxes and cuts in public spending. Some of them are even still men only. No wonder the Rotary club have difficulty attracting members under 60 these days. That sort of model is old hat and old politics ... almost Victorian in it's philosophy ... just what Dave Cameron wants brought back, and now it seems, Peter Ridsdale. Funny how all these reuests have gone out from "staff" since he arrived.

However, this Argyle thing is a joke. How on earth they can market the idea of PAFC travel to matches as a charity is beyond belief.
It would even be understandable if we were a Supporters' Trust owned club, but we're not, we're owned by multi millionaires. Wake up some of you. They're not paying staff and they're asking the OAPs to pay for the upkeep of the pitch !! And now they have encouraged this . Have they no shame ?
To me I see the Green Taverners as nothing more than a glad-handing social opportunity that is little more than the rebranding of yet more corporate hospitality. Is that clear enough Andy S

Green Taverners - Are a group of fans NOT a charity

Being of a socialist persuasion I am all for helping the disadvantaged and redistributing wealth, and the best way to do that is taxation. Sadly the new government want to drive a horse and coaches through that, so that the poor will then have to rely on volunteers, not professionals.
Aside from that rant, I am not totally against charity, gawd knows I've done enough work for certain charities over the years, but I call a halt in my support with certain bodies. I had a pop at the Lions/Rotary diners model of charity because they are often stuffed full of local businesmen 'wanting to 'do good' while at the same time lobbying for lower personal taxes and cuts in public spending. Some of them are even still men only. No wonder the Rotary club have difficulty attracting members under 60 these days. That sort of model is old hat and old politics ... almost Victorian in it's philosophy ... just what Dave Cameron wants brought back, and now it seems, Peter Ridsdale. Funny how all these reuests have gone out from "staff" since he arrived.

However, this Argyle thing is a joke. How on earth they can market the idea of PAFC travel to matches as a charity is beyond belief.
It would even be understandable if we were a Supporters' Trust owned club, but we're not, we're owned by multi millionaires. Wake up some of you. They're not paying staff and they're asking the OAPs to pay for the upkeep of the pitch !! And now they have encouraged this . Have they no shame ?
To me I see the Green Taverners as nothing more than a glad-handing social opportunity that is little more than the rebranding of yet more corporate hospitality. Is that clear enough Andy S

http://www.greenteverns.co.uk Are a group of fans NOT a charity

In fairness he didnt say you were a charity, he wasstill having a go at Andy S and the underlying causes of social ills begat by the Lions and Rotary

He think of you as......"as nothing more than a glad-handing social opportunity that is little more than the rebranding of yet more corporate hospitality."

See? You caught him on a good day.

Being of a socialist persuasion I am all for helping the disadvantaged and redistributing wealth, and the best way to do that is taxation. Sadly the new government want to drive a horse and coaches through that, so that the poor will then have to rely on volunteers, not professionals.
Aside from that rant, I am not totally against charity, gawd knows I've done enough work for certain charities over the years, but I call a halt in my support with certain bodies. I had a pop at the Lions/Rotary diners model of charity because they are often stuffed full of local businesmen 'wanting to 'do good' while at the same time lobbying for lower personal taxes and cuts in public spending. Some of them are even still men only. No wonder the Rotary club have difficulty attracting members under 60 these days. That sort of model is old hat and old politics ... almost Victorian in it's philosophy ... just what Dave Cameron wants brought back, and now it seems, Peter Ridsdale. Funny how all these reuests have gone out from "staff" since he arrived.

However, this Argyle thing is a joke. How on earth they can market the idea of PAFC travel to matches as a charity is beyond belief.
It would even be understandable if we were a Supporters' Trust owned club, but we're not, we're owned by multi millionaires. Wake up some of you. They're not paying staff and they're asking the OAPs to pay for the upkeep of the pitch !! And now they have encouraged this . Have they no shame ?
To me I see the Green Taverners as nothing more than a glad-handing social opportunity that is little more than the rebranding of yet more corporate hospitality. Is that clear enough Andy S

this is an opportunity for fans to have a really good day at argyle for a change, meet people put faces to names have a singsong a few beers an some great entertainment .
may i be so rude as to ask you to chill out ,.
come along an have a day out with the lads ,i will even chip in a £1 towards your ticket as im sure another 19 pasoti members will make up the difference.
come on pasoti lets show MR NEGATIVE what we can do

I apologise, your spelling goes downhill usually, that's all.

I use two or three laptops ... one has a sticky keyboard, and I can't be bothered with a spell check.

I cannot believe PP posted this nearly three days ago and nobody has picked up on this...


Will have a look at the website and sign up soon.

Being of a socialist persuasion I am all for helping the disadvantaged and redistributing wealth, and the best way to do that is taxation. Sadly the new government want to drive a horse and coaches through that, so that the poor will then have to rely on volunteers, not professionals.
Aside from that rant, I am not totally against charity, gawd knows I've done enough work for certain charities over the years, but I call a halt in my support with certain bodies. I had a pop at the Lions/Rotary diners model of charity because they are often stuffed full of local businesmen 'wanting to 'do good' while at the same time lobbying for lower personal taxes and cuts in public spending. Some of them are even still men only. No wonder the Rotary club have difficulty attracting members under 60 these days. That sort of model is old hat and old politics ... almost Victorian in it's philosophy ... just what Dave Cameron wants brought back, and now it seems, Peter Ridsdale. Funny how all these reuests have gone out from "staff" since he arrived.

However, this Argyle thing is a joke. How on earth they can market the idea of PAFC travel to matches as a charity is beyond belief.
It would even be understandable if we were a Supporters' Trust owned club, but we're not, we're owned by multi millionaires. Wake up some of you. They're not paying staff and they're asking the OAPs to pay for the upkeep of the pitch !! And now they have encouraged this . Have they no shame ?
To me I see the Green Taverners as nothing more than a glad-handing social opportunity that is little more than the rebranding of yet more corporate hospitality. Is that clear enough Andy S

this is an opportunity for fans to have a really good day at argyle for a change, meet people put faces to names have a singsong a few beers an some great entertainment .
may i be so rude as to ask you to chill out ,.
come along an have a day out with the lads ,i will even chip in a £1 towards your ticket as im sure another 19 pasoti members will make up the difference.
come on pasoti lets show MR NEGATIVE what we can do

I'm up for that mate

Being of a socialist persuasion I am all for helping the disadvantaged and redistributing wealth, and the best way to do that is taxation. Sadly the new government want to drive a horse and coaches through that, so that the poor will then have to rely on volunteers, not professionals.
Aside from that rant, I am not totally against charity, gawd knows I've done enough work for certain charities over the years, but I call a halt in my support with certain bodies. I had a pop at the Lions/Rotary diners model of charity because they are often stuffed full of local businesmen 'wanting to 'do good' while at the same time lobbying for lower personal taxes and cuts in public spending. Some of them are even still men only. No wonder the Rotary club have difficulty attracting members under 60 these days. That sort of model is old hat and old politics ... almost Victorian in it's philosophy ... just what Dave Cameron wants brought back, and now it seems, Peter Ridsdale. Funny how all these reuests have gone out from "staff" since he arrived.

However, this Argyle thing is a joke. How on earth they can market the idea of PAFC travel to matches as a charity is beyond belief.
It would even be understandable if we were a Supporters' Trust owned club, but we're not, we're owned by multi millionaires. Wake up some of you. They're not paying staff and they're asking the OAPs to pay for the upkeep of the pitch !! And now they have encouraged this . Have they no shame ?
To me I see the Green Taverners as nothing more than a glad-handing social opportunity that is little more than the rebranding of yet more corporate hospitality. Is that clear enough Andy S

this is an opportunity for fans to have a really good day at argyle for a change, meet people put faces to names have a singsong a few beers an some great entertainment .
may i be so rude as to ask you to chill out ,.
come along an have a day out with the lads ,i will even chip in a £1 towards your ticket as im sure another 19 pasoti members will make up the difference.
come on pasoti lets show MR NEGATIVE what we can do

I'm up for that mate

good man 18 to go

Being of a socialist persuasion I am all for helping the disadvantaged and redistributing wealth, and the best way to do that is taxation. Sadly the new government want to drive a horse and coaches through that, so that the poor will then have to rely on volunteers, not professionals.
Aside from that rant, I am not totally against charity, gawd knows I've done enough work for certain charities over the years, but I call a halt in my support with certain bodies. I had a pop at the Lions/Rotary diners model of charity because they are often stuffed full of local businesmen 'wanting to 'do good' while at the same time lobbying for lower personal taxes and cuts in public spending. Some of them are even still men only. No wonder the Rotary club have difficulty attracting members under 60 these days. That sort of model is old hat and old politics ... almost Victorian in it's philosophy ... just what Dave Cameron wants brought back, and now it seems, Peter Ridsdale. Funny how all these reuests have gone out from "staff" since he arrived.

However, this Argyle thing is a joke. How on earth they can market the idea of PAFC travel to matches as a charity is beyond belief.
It would even be understandable if we were a Supporters' Trust owned club, but we're not, we're owned by multi millionaires. Wake up some of you. They're not paying staff and they're asking the OAPs to pay for the upkeep of the pitch !! And now they have encouraged this . Have they no shame ?
To me I see the Green Taverners as nothing more than a glad-handing social opportunity that is little more than the rebranding of yet more corporate hospitality. Is that clear enough Andy S

this is an opportunity for fans to have a really good day at argyle for a change, meet people put faces to names have a singsong a few beers an some great entertainment .
may i be so rude as to ask you to chill out ,.
come along an have a day out with the lads ,i will even chip in a £1 towards your ticket as im sure another 19 pasoti members will make up the difference.
come on pasoti lets show MR NEGATIVE what we can do

I'm up for that mate

good man 18 to go

As Im in Bristol, working, this Friday night, I'll go wild and pledge £2

Being of a socialist persuasion I am all for helping the disadvantaged and redistributing wealth, and the best way to do that is taxation. Sadly the new government want to drive a horse and coaches through that, so that the poor will then have to rely on volunteers, not professionals.
Aside from that rant, I am not totally against charity, gawd knows I've done enough work for certain charities over the years, but I call a halt in my support with certain bodies. I had a pop at the Lions/Rotary diners model of charity because they are often stuffed full of local businesmen 'wanting to 'do good' while at the same time lobbying for lower personal taxes and cuts in public spending. Some of them are even still men only. No wonder the Rotary club have difficulty attracting members under 60 these days. That sort of model is old hat and old politics ... almost Victorian in it's philosophy ... just what Dave Cameron wants brought back, and now it seems, Peter Ridsdale. Funny how all these reuests have gone out from "staff" since he arrived.

However, this Argyle thing is a joke. How on earth they can market the idea of PAFC travel to matches as a charity is beyond belief.
It would even be understandable if we were a Supporters' Trust owned club, but we're not, we're owned by multi millionaires. Wake up some of you. They're not paying staff and they're asking the OAPs to pay for the upkeep of the pitch !! And now they have encouraged this . Have they no shame ?
To me I see the Green Taverners as nothing more than a glad-handing social opportunity that is little more than the rebranding of yet more corporate hospitality. Is that clear enough Andy S

this is an opportunity for fans to have a really good day at argyle for a change, meet people put faces to names have a singsong a few beers an some great entertainment .
may i be so rude as to ask you to chill out ,.
come along an have a day out with the lads ,i will even chip in a £1 towards your ticket as im sure another 19 pasoti members will make up the difference.
come on pasoti lets show MR NEGATIVE what we can do

I'm up for that mate

good man 18 to go

As Im in Bristol, working, this Friday night, I'll go wild and pledge £2

very generous you are going above an beyond
come on pasoti we can do this ,be part of something great an feel proud that you could play a part of putting a smile on the pirates face

I'm in for a pound

I'm in for a pound

good man