I was thinking the same thing Rush Goalie - I was under the impression James Brent was next in line.. to assume preferred bidder status

He's obviously far too sensible an option

But how long is it before he gets fed up and walks as well?

Keep up

Jon, you're completely right... if the club started again there's no way we'd be able to afford to use Home Park - there would be nowhere else to play and the end of the club as we know it.

I don't think it will come to that, but let's not see liquidation as a romantic option.

I can not say that I fell off the chair. Buttivant and Brent are the ones that remain?

Just watched the BBC Spotlight News - who are MastHEAD???

Have Mastpoint LOST their point??

According to Spotlight he has told Brenda he is no longer interested.

You're a few hours too late. See the updated developments thread.

Reading the paper copy of The Herald this morning part of Heaney plans were to build a multiplex cinema on the car park. He is not quoted dircetly but it is believed that the issue of owning 2 football clubs was the reason for his withdrawal.

Enter Mr Buutivant with some foreign backer with Mr Brent still in the background.

We don't want any 'wise boys' at Home Park. I like the sound of Mr Brent's, albeit low profile, approach.

Low profile is what we need though, no fekkin meglomanic flouncing a la Heaney/Mc666 and no chasing after grand fekkin pipe dreams like the NWO and the World Cup.

If it must be a developer (and we don't have a Jack Walker) then we need a sensible long term strategy that respects the position of the football side of the business and doesn't have many hungry mouths to feed. Brent is a lone party, he doesn't have to keep his consortium or side investors happy he can forge a plan and stick to it with no short term knee jerking or crisis management. He's also just about as familiar as it's possible to be with the City's development plans and processes, something essential to actually getting the job done. I mean, a fekkin multiplex on the car park . Hotels and conferencing, especially nearer the upper end, Brents background, are long term development strategies, you don't just knock them up and expect a quick return, you have to develop a reputation and a brand that people will trust.

That's why for me it has to be Brent or bust.

Who in the name of all that is holy is this Buttivant character anyway and what can a home counties local councillor bring to the table that an established multi-millionaire hotelier can't?. I'll tell you what he brings, a mystery foreign backer. Oh triffic, more foreign investors. Do we know who they are?, WILL we ever know who they are?, is it a rich tycoon or an NWO style mass investment scam where 100 investors give a bit and are promised returns?.

I can invest no pride, passion or belief in a local councillor (he'll be a fekkin Tory no doubt) fronting a big fat question mark, I couldn't invest pride, passion and belief in Cornwalls poor man's Donald Trump - Donald Duck more like and I will don the smock and sharpen the pitchfork against any NWO involvement.

Brent or Bust (then rebirth!).

PS - Mikey don't you fret over liquidation, it'll hurt but it won't be the end of Argyle. We'll still have Home Park and we'll be back in the league before long having forged a great new spirit of togetherness and being run, literally this time, by fans for fans as a community club. If we need to worry about anything, it should be football becoming the 'peripheral' activity in the back garden of a commercial goldmine.

I'm a bit concerned that people are now viewing liquidation with the same naivety that some viewed administration (largely the same people that post-administration launched a series of tirades on the administrator for making people redundant, selling players & damaging local businesses...).

Liquidation will be the end of Argyle. There will be no club, no players, no staff & no property. Nothing tangible that can be said to make up Plymouth Argyle will be allowed to remain.

PCC may take back Home Park, but that is an absolutely worse-case scenario for them as they will be then burdened with the ongoing costs, for zero return on any level (be that subjective or objective a la Tinside pool).

As for the likelihood of a rusting 20,000+ stadium being used for non-league football, it just ain't gonna happen - you'd lose £25K + a game.

Do fret Mikey, liquidation is oblivion.

Jon

Darlington are using a far better stadium than yours with crowds as low as 1500.

According to Spotlight he has told Brenda he is no longer interested.

You're a few hours too late. See the updated developments thread.

Apologies. I didn't have time to read the thread.

So he got involved in negotiations which fell down due to the dual ownership issue?

Sounds rather like buying into a club with the aim of promoting it in a different country before finding out the rules about playing players from that country.

To those who say a reconsituted Argyle could not afford to play at HP. Hogwash.

Rent is determined by supply and demand, the only planning permission is for use as a sports stadium who else is going to use it?

Oh well,nearly game over me thinks.

http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/news/AR ... ticle.html

If a deal can't be struck with heaney,what hope is there now with the other bidder-s.....

To those who say a reconsituted Argyle could not afford to play at HP. Hogwash.

Rent is determined by supply and demand, the only planning permission is for use as a sports stadium who else is going to use it?

So how would the costs of insurance, public liability cover, maintenance, security staff, mandatory medical staff, water, electric & gas for a stadium of the size - & assessed risks (particularly the older part of the ground) - of Home Park be covered? Let alone rent, etc.

Supply & demand isn't so simplistic either - let's just say that PCC are the new owners - it will cost them far, far more to cover the costs of the ground if it is in use, as opposed to if it was 'decommissioned'. As such, any new 'user' or tenant would have to be able to be sure to generate a certain break even figure before they were even take into consideration.....

Barely 10,000 people could be bothered to watch Championship football come the end of our time there - we'd end up with 750 people paying £50 a game to watch non-league football at this rate!

Jon

To those who say a reconsituted Argyle could not afford to play at HP. Hogwash.

Rent is determined by supply and demand, the only planning permission is for use as a sports stadium who else is going to use it?

Plymouth Albion, a far more established sporting team, with a larger fanbase to what any prospective Argyle in the Southern League would muster.