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Re: Heaney holds talks with mystery Irish consortium

Posted: 07:50 02 Jun 2011
by Greenskin
McQ wrote: I am 39 and whilst not my first games, I started regularly attending in the Dave Smith promotion year. Since that time it has never ceased to amaze me the number of disaffected Argyle fans that I have come across (including members of my own family).

The usual comment after 'bleddy crap argo' is 'seen it all before buuuuuy'. I often wondered if this was just a south west thing, as other teams seem to have many thousands of fans of all generations. We seem to lose generations with alarming efficiency. Even the women in my family know that 'Argyle always blow it when there is a big crowd' (or words to that effect).

It seems that we have managed to do it again...another generation of lost fans beckons, more money heads towards the premiership...and the disaffected nod sagely 'seen it all before buuuy'

:( :( :(



Unfortunately,the club has made a rod for it's own back over a period of many decades,far preceding the Dave Smith era.My own memory dates back to the mid to late sixties,when good players like Trebilcock,Jennings,Book,Jackson,Jones etc were sold off for no particular reason and relegation ensued.The most sickening and damaging of all was the Waiters era,when the club really did seem to be launched to bigger things-crowds were the 5th highest in the division but so many people were turned away for ever by the sale of Mariner and Rafferty and the subsequent decline in fortunes.Before that ,i thought the "seen it all before brigade" were just moaning old buggers,but that certainly put doubts in my mind about the truth of what they said, and i'm afraid its been confirmed more than a time or two since.Nothing to do with the area,Cardiff and Hull were getting miniscule crowds until their recent successes and no doubt people were saying the same things in those cities.But as you say,Argyle have lost another generation of fans in this latest fiasco,whereas those clubs have been successful and built a substantial fanbase accordingly,which will last for many,many years.Sad,very sad.

Re: Heaney holds talks with mystery Irish consortium

Posted: 11:25 02 Jun 2011
by X Isle
argyleiggy wrote: I think that you could easily link this thread with the "what has happened to Pasoti?" What a load of drivel Smiffy :) Sure as always well written and well argumented, but all this hand wringing and knicker twisting over what exactly? Someone or something that we know next to nothing about, when we have something to protest about I will be there at the head of the queue like I was last time, until then, go and take the "baby" for a walk, bath him or teach him to read :shock: Obviously time to go.


Ever considered that it's impossible for "drivel" to be "well argued and well written"?.

Ever considered therefore that it could simply be a well presented opinion that you just don't happen to share?.

Ever considered challenging that opinion with something equally well argued and well written rather than the highly intellectual retort of dissmissive sarcasm?

Ever considered that actually others might know more than you do?.

Ever considered actually listening to the people running the other way screaming "tsunami" as you casually walk down to the beach with your surfboard under your arm?, or must you wait until you see the wall of water before you'll react?.

Re: Heaney holds talks with mystery Irish consortium

Posted: 11:35 02 Jun 2011
by Iggy
X Isle wrote:
argyleiggy wrote: I think that you could easily link this thread with the "what has happened to Pasoti?" What a load of drivel Smiffy :) Sure as always well written and well argumented, but all this hand wringing and knicker twisting over what exactly? Someone or something that we know next to nothing about, when we have something to protest about I will be there at the head of the queue like I was last time, until then, go and take the "baby" for a walk, bath him or teach him to read :shock: Obviously time to go.


Ever considered that it's impossible for "drivel" to be "well argued and well written"?.

Ever considered therefore that it could simply be a well presented opinion that you just don't happen to share?.

Ever considered challenging that opinion with something equally well argued and well written rather than the highly intellectual retort of dissmissive sarcasm?

Ever considered that actually others might know more than you do?.



Ever considered actually listening to the people running the other way screaming "tsunami" as you casually walk down to the beach with your surfboard under your arm?, or must you wait until you see the wall of water before you'll react?.


Nah.

Re: Heaney holds talks with mystery Irish consortium

Posted: 12:23 02 Jun 2011
by tonycholwell
Well, Ive written it on other threads so might as well repeat it here.

We do not know who the preferred bidder is or their nationality.

We do not know what plans they have or that of The Riddler.

There has been a spate of nudge nudge wink wink with regards to Heaney, but nothing of substance to debate to date.

Perhaps we will know something on 14th June.

Or perhaps we will not.

personally Im off out the country on the 20th June and will not waste nervous energy on dodgy speculation either before I go or whilst away.

Just hope theres a place for me mind, by the time I get back and we are not facing a sell out of ST's.

Or perhaps I will change my mind.

Too many imponderables are never compatible with a relaxed way of life

Re: Heaney holds talks with mystery Irish consortium

Posted: 12:52 02 Jun 2011
by bandwagon
tonycholwell wrote: Well, Ive written it on other threads so might as well repeat it here.

We do not know who the preferred bidder is or their nationality.

We do not know what plans they have or that of The Riddler.

There has been a spate of nudge nudge wink wink with regards to Heaney, but nothing of substance to debate to date.

Perhaps we will know something on 14th June.

Or perhaps we will not.

personally Im off out the country on the 20th June and will not waste nervous energy on dodgy speculation either before I go or whilst away.

Just hope theres a place for me mind, by the time I get back and we are not facing a sell out of ST's.

Or perhaps I will change my mind.

Too many imponderables are never compatible with a relaxed way of life


So, you're sort of swinging in yer hammock with yer vodka & tonic, saying what ever will be will be - well same here Tone, more ice please!! :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:

Re: Heaney holds talks with mystery Irish consortium

Posted: 13:09 02 Jun 2011
by Mat
McQ wrote: I am 39 and whilst not my first games, I started regularly attending in the Dave Smith promotion year. Since that time it has never ceased to amaze me the number of disaffected Argyle fans that I have come across (including members of my own family).

The usual comment after 'bleddy crap argo' is 'seen it all before buuuuuy'. I often wondered if this was just a south west thing, as other teams seem to have many thousands of fans of all generations. We seem to lose generations with alarming efficiency. Even the women in my family know that 'Argyle always blow it when there is a big crowd' (or words to that effect).

It seems that we have managed to do it again...another generation of lost fans beckons, more money heads towards the premiership...and the disaffected nod sagely 'seen it all before buuuy'

:( :( :(

Same old Argyle

Re: Heaney holds talks with mystery Irish consortium

Posted: 14:42 02 Jun 2011
by dennis the menace
tonycholwell wrote: Well, Ive written it on other threads so might as well repeat it here.

We do not know who the preferred bidder is or their nationality.

We do not know what plans they have or that of The Riddler.

There has been a spate of nudge nudge wink wink with regards to Heaney, but nothing of substance to debate to date.

Perhaps we will know something on 14th June.

Or perhaps we will not.

personally Im off out the country on the 20th June and will not waste nervous energy on dodgy speculation either before I go or whilst away.

Just hope theres a place for me mind, by the time I get back and we are not facing a sell out of ST's.

Or perhaps I will change my mind.

Too many imponderables are never compatible with a relaxed way of life


You need a holiday Tony - we all do! :mrgreen:

Re: Heaney holds talks with mystery Irish consortium

Posted: 15:08 02 Jun 2011
by tonycholwell
dennis the menace wrote:
tonycholwell wrote: Well, Ive written it on other threads so might as well repeat it here.

We do not know who the preferred bidder is or their nationality.

We do not know what plans they have or that of The Riddler.

There has been a spate of nudge nudge wink wink with regards to Heaney, but nothing of substance to debate to date.

Perhaps we will know something on 14th June.

Or perhaps we will not.

personally Im off out the country on the 20th June and will not waste nervous energy on dodgy speculation either before I go or whilst away.

Just hope theres a place for me mind, by the time I get back and we are not facing a sell out of ST's.

Or perhaps I will change my mind.

Too many imponderables are never compatible with a relaxed way of life


You need a holiday Tony - we all do! :mrgreen:


Dennis and Bandy

I think its disbelief whenever I come on, so many threads with bile and cant, some into 10+ pages based on what?

Exactly :) not a fact in sight.

If I end up dying from another heart attack I want to make sure first its something worthy of the sacrifice and not innuendo or a fleeting glance.

Bandy, pass the ice :lol:

Re: Heaney holds talks with mystery Irish consortium

Posted: 15:20 02 Jun 2011
by David Whitehouse
Heaney is talking to consortium = Heaney is talking to himself

It's quite harmless and normal (I do it all the time) so long as you don't do it in public.