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Re: Trust proposes to write-off £7,000 Loan to GTs

Posted: 10:05 20 Jun 2011
by Keepitgreen
3 from my family will be giving this the green light. How do the under 16s stand in this? I know that they can't vote in elections etc but does their opinion count in consultations?
If they do, make that 4 from my family. :) :)

Re: Trust proposes to write-off £7,000 Loan to GTs

Posted: 10:07 20 Jun 2011
by Al Curtis
100% in favour of this
Al Curtis member No. 158

Re: Trust proposes to write-off £7,000 Loan to GTs

Posted: 10:08 20 Jun 2011
by Green Rhino
Keepitgreen wrote: 3 from my family will be giving this the green light. How do the under 16s stand in this? I know that they can't vote in elections etc but does their opinion count in consultations?
If they do, make that 4 from my family. :) :)


Yep, their opinion sure does count.

Re: Trust proposes to write-off £7,000 Loan to GTs

Posted: 10:20 20 Jun 2011
by Neil Corner
#321

Very happy with this.

Re: Trust proposes to write-off £7,000 Loan to GTs

Posted: 10:27 20 Jun 2011
by Keepitgreen
Peter Ryan wrote:
Keepitgreen wrote: 3 from my family will be giving this the green light. How do the under 16s stand in this? I know that they can't vote in elections etc but does their opinion count in consultations?
If they do, make that 4 from my family. :) :)


Yep, their opinion sure does count.

4 it is then. Hopefully do it via the Trust site tonight.

Re: Trust proposes to write-off £7,000 Loan to GTs

Posted: 11:02 20 Jun 2011
by mike_gss
#614 - Yes. :)

Re: Trust proposes to write-off £7,000 Loan to GTs

Posted: 13:28 20 Jun 2011
by N.I_Green
Earlier in this thread I voted yes. Will this vote be taken into consideration from here, or do i HAVE to respond by e-mail or on the voting form thingy? I don't know my membership number, as i only joined at the weekend, is all.. cheers!

Re: Trust proposes to write-off £7,000 Loan to GTs

Posted: 15:34 20 Jun 2011
by Ted
#619 - Yes

Re: Trust proposes to write-off £7,000 Loan to GTs

Posted: 16:32 20 Jun 2011
by mtcarn
dunlop wrote: I can understand the sentiments behind the proposal but disagree we should write off the £7k, the Trust was not set up to be a charity to the green taverners.



:iagree:

Re: Trust proposes to write-off £7,000 Loan to GTs

Posted: 16:49 20 Jun 2011
by Daz
mtcarn wrote:
dunlop wrote: I can understand the sentiments behind the proposal but disagree we should write off the £7k, the Trust was not set up to be a charity to the green taverners.



:iagree:


I think the way you should think about this is that it isn't charity to the green taverners, it is a donation to help the staff who look after our club live a semi normal life when they haven't been paid for 6 months.

Re: Trust proposes to write-off £7,000 Loan to GTs

Posted: 16:50 20 Jun 2011
by Phil Mallett
# 802 - you have my vote. Fantastic move, well done the ISC :)

Re: Trust proposes to write-off £7,000 Loan to GTs

Posted: 19:18 20 Jun 2011
by mtcarn
Why I disagree

As a Trust member I disagree with the proposal. The GT's knew the terms of the loan when they took it out. It is my understanding that this money was loaned to the staff. When the staff are paid they repay the GT's and the GT's repay the trust so why should we write off the loan but if the staff do not get their money then that brings up a different set of circumstances which we can address at that time.

No one is saying the money has to be repaid in a lump sum by the GT's. It could be repaid over 10 or 15 years. I also believe the matter of the proposal should be decided by a postal vote of trust members after the new committee has been elected not by the currect ISC, £7000 is too great a sum of money to be decided on by an unelected body.

We have no idea what we or the club will need the money for in the future so I cannot see the need to rush into such a major decision. I also disagree with under 16 being included in the vote. My five year old nephew has no idea of the economics or implications of writing off such a large amount of money.

Re: Trust proposes to write-off £7,000 Loan to GTs

Posted: 19:31 20 Jun 2011
by Leigh Rapson
mtcarn wrote: Why I disagree

As a Trust member I disagree with the proposal. The GT's knew the terms of the loan when they took it out. It is my understanding that this money was loaned to the staff. When the staff are paid they repay the GT's and the GT's repay the trust so why should we write off the loan but if the staff do not get their money then that brings up a different set of circumstances which we can address at that time.

No one is saying the money has to be repaid in a lump sum by the GT's. It could be repaid over 10 or 15 years. I also believe the matter of the proposal should be decided by a postal vote of trust members after the new committee has been elected not by the currect ISC, £7000 is too great a sum of money to be decided on by an unelected body.

We have no idea what we or the club will need the money for in the future so I cannot see the need to rush into such a major decision. I also disagree with under 16 being included in the vote. My five year old nephew has no idea of the economics or implications of writing off such a large amount of money.


Wrong - the money was gifted to the staff. Any loans have come from businesses or individuals.