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Re: Herald re PBs

Posted: 12:37 28 Jun 2011
by bizzay1
PL2 3DQ wrote: I've discovered that the company Bishop International Limited was formed on 25th February 2011.

This was before Argyle went into administration, before Guilfoyle was appointed, before Brent and Buttivant were interested, before the "Irish" were involved and before a Preferred Bidder was announced.

Either an outsider was taking a keen interest and quickly set-up BIL to prepare to buy Argyle at some future date or someone or some group (Mastpoint or the Directors) close to the situation knew which way the whole process was heading.


This lot might as well come clean NOW - as we have our own ferret on the case :appl: :appl:

Re: Herald re PBs

Posted: 12:37 28 Jun 2011
by Plympton Pong
X Isle wrote:
daicactus wrote: "Insiders claim"


Suggesting you believe it to be false?.

As per my earlier point, if factually incorrect why has Heaney or Bishop International not mounted a challenge to it?. It tells the world that a football club owner involved in the purchase of a second club, it's damaging to the chances of PAFC receiving the golden share. If false they need to challenge it, they haven't.


Would you believe everything an insider told you?! :)

Re: Herald re PBs

Posted: 12:41 28 Jun 2011
by The Doctor
Re: what can and can't be built on the Home Park land.

Another interesting question relating to this is what can and can't be built on the land that is owned by Stapleton and co (Goals, ex cricket ground)? I guess there's no restrictive covenant on that land although clearly normal planning rule should apply. If Stapleton and co are involved in BIL then the PB would potentially own a lot more land than just Home Park and its immediate surroundings.

Re: Herald re PBs

Posted: 12:49 28 Jun 2011
by Tim Chown
daicactus wrote: Just for the record I get the distinct impression that Guilfoyle is saying the "Irish"/Mr Heaney/Bishop International bid is Hobson's choice. I see this as dangerous and if the Mr Heaney connection established perhaps even fatal to Argyle's existence.


So it would be useful perhaps if a viable alternative stepped forward with full plans and proof of funding. Nothing at present suggests that Brent or Bullivant could (still) deliver. A public statement and evidence that from either would potentially make things quite interesting.

Re: Herald re PBs

Posted: 15:08 28 Jun 2011
by Dave Stoneman
GreenGuy wrote:
daicactus wrote: Just for the record I get the distinct impression that Guilfoyle is saying the ""Irish""/Mr Heaney/Bishop International bid is Hobson's choice. I see this as dangerous and if the Mr Heaney connection established perhaps even fatal to Argyle's existence.


So it would be useful perhaps if a viable alternative stepped forward with full plans and proof of funding. Nothing at present suggests that Brent or Bullivant could (still) deliver. A public statement and evidence that from either would potentially make things quite interesting.


To be honest GreenGuy, I think that there is little chance of a new bid at this time. That's why I'm concerned about Mr Heaney's involvement and what the FL will make of it. The bid performance is taking on the dimensions of a Greek tradgedy all under the directorship of Mr Guilfoyle. Still, come 4th July we should be clear about what's going to happen, but I'm not holding my breath.

Cactus

Re: Herald re PBs

Posted: 15:14 28 Jun 2011
by Dave Stoneman
Plympton Pong wrote:
X Isle wrote:
daicactus wrote: "Insiders claim"


Suggesting you believe it to be false?.

As per my earlier point, if factually incorrect why has Heaney or Bishop International not mounted a challenge to it?. It tells the world that a football club owner involved in the purchase of a second club, it's damaging to the chances of PAFC receiving the golden share. If false they need to challenge it, they haven't.


Would you believe everything an insider told you?! :)



And the motivation and rationale behind an unnamed disclosure is...................? I take your point Plympton.

Re: Herald re PBs

Posted: 15:23 28 Jun 2011
by Tim Chown
daicactus wrote: To be honest GreenGuy, I think that there is little chance of a new bid at this time. That's why I'm concerned about Mr Heaney's involvement and what the FL will make of it. The bid performance is taking on the dimensions of a Greek tradgedy all under the directorship of Mr Guilfoyle. Still, come 4th July we should be clear about what's going to happen, but I'm not holding my breath.


At the moment, I agree with you. But there are some posters on the bawdy house that is Pasoti suggesting there *is* an alternative. If so, specific and detailed public disclosure would be highly desirable, rather than those people continuing to make vague allusions of some viable Plan B.

Re: Herald re PBs

Posted: 16:26 28 Jun 2011
by Charlie Wood
PL2 3DQ wrote: I've discovered that the company Bishop International Limited was formed on 25th February 2011.

This was before Argyle went into administration, before Guilfoyle was appointed, before Brent and Buttivant were interested, before the "Irish" were involved and before a Preferred Bidder was announced.

Either an outsider was taking a keen interest and quickly set-up BIL to prepare to buy Argyle at some future date or someone or some group (Mastpoint or the Directors) close to the situation knew which way the whole process was heading
.



Well done...again...Ian. Nobody seems to be paying this news much attention. To me it goes to the heart of the matter.

Re: Herald re PBs

Posted: 16:51 28 Jun 2011
by Laughter My Ploy
I assumed it was an off the shelf company already set up and ready to buy of the Gib government...on their website it's actually easy and cheap to do and also highly secret once it is set up....no-one can demand to know anything about it

Re: Herald re PBs

Posted: 17:18 28 Jun 2011
by Dave Stoneman
PL2 3DQ wrote: I've discovered that the company Bishop International Limited was formed on 25th February 2011.

This was before Argyle went into administration, before Guilfoyle was appointed, before Brent and Buttivant were interested, before the "Irish" were involved and before a Preferred Bidder was announced.

Either an outsider was taking a keen interest and quickly set-up BIL to prepare to buy Argyle at some future date or someone or some group (Mastpoint or the Directors) close to the situation knew which way the whole process was heading.


I've got to say PL2, your findings point towards some very dubious behaviour.The more I hear about this bid the less I like the "feel" of it. The time of incorporation injects suspicion that someone or group was standing ready to pick over the carcass of a moribund Plymouth Argyle. The question is now, who are the directors?

Cactus

Re: Herald re PBs

Posted: 17:18 28 Jun 2011
by Charlie Wood
Laughter My Ploy wrote: I assumed it was an off the shelf company already set up and ready to buy of the Gib government...on their website it's actually easy and cheap to do and also highly secret once it is set up....no-one can demand to know anything about it


That's a very good answer LMP and could explain that little one. Still, the need for such secrecy unsettles me deeply.

Re: Herald re PBs

Posted: 19:04 28 Jun 2011
by PL2 3DQ
Laughter My Ploy wrote: I assumed it was an off the shelf company already set up and ready to buy of the Gib government...on their website it's actually easy and cheap to do and also highly secret once it is set up....no-one can demand to know anything about it



You've read the same websites as me. :) For just over £1,000 an off-shore company can be set-up in Gibraltar and remain top secret. Easy.
Someone or group have done this with the sole purpose of remaining anonymous.

Re: Herald re PBs

Posted: 20:25 28 Jun 2011
by seadog
Charlie Wood wrote:
PL2 3DQ wrote: I've discovered that the company Bishop International Limited was formed on 25th February 2011.

This was before Argyle went into administration, before Guilfoyle was appointed, before Brent and Buttivant were interested, before the ""Irish"" were involved and before a Preferred Bidder was announced.

Either an outsider was taking a keen interest and quickly set-up BIL to prepare to buy Argyle at some future date or someone or some group (Mastpoint or the Directors) close to the situation knew which way the whole process was heading
.



Well done...again...Ian. Nobody seems to be paying this news much attention. To me it goes to the heart of the matter.


a tad inconvenient for the Ridsdale fan club perhaps?