I've also suggested a couple of times that Brent and Buttivant should "lay their cards on the table" to try to create some kind of media / fans pressure to give Brenda a reason to kick Heaney out.

But the silence from both Brent and Buttivant is deafening which enables Brenda to just muddle along and keep extending the so-called deadline.

It's no good saying Brent's a really nice bloke etc - someone needs to get up off their ar$e and stir things up.

Buttivant is still keeping tabs on the situation and is still in contact with those concerned, I guess Brent is doing the same. Both will operate behind the scenes because of the exclusivity agreement and will not say too much in public unless the deal with the Preferred Bidder collapses.

The recent point on this thread is that there are other options but Guilfoyle chose the worse one, unless you're a secured creditor.
Since the process started there were other bids - Affinity Sports Finance (Todd/Gardner), Kevin Ball and his group and one I recently heard about that made some enquiries but those in charge didn't follow up their offer, plus there might have been more interested parties.

There are options.

But they are not subject to the exclusivity deal-that's between the PB and the Administrator. It doesn't impose a gagging order (or a super injunction) on Brent & Bullivant.

They can (if they wish) tell all and sundry what they would do if the PB falls by the wayside. They could even send a copy of their bank statements to Pasoti as "proof of funding"

Whatever smiffy...... You obviously also have your head in the sand. let me rephrase so that even you get it....
When someone can put a valid alternative on the table that is not based on hearsay, rumour, ifs buts or maybes then it will be acknowledged whole heartedly by me for sure

So let ME get this straight, you believe James Brent to be hearsay?, you believe James Brent to be a rumour?. You put so much store in the words that come from Brendan Guilfoyles mouth but even he said that if Heaney doesn't come good he'll have to revisit the other bidders who have remained involved.

As i've said before, NOTHING will convince you to open your mind, NOTHING will sway you from your hypnosis. You wouldn't recognise an alternative if it led a tap dancing troupe of 10,000 sequin encrusted showgirls singing "alternatives are here again".

Like I say, no-one can be that obtuse, my only possible theory is that you are Peter Ridsdale or Kevin Heaney, I claim my £10 prize .

Tell us what are his plans? Try and respond without attacking Heaney, Guilefoyle or Ridsdale just simply tell us what Brent has in mind. How does he plan to pay off the debt etc?. This is a genuine question. If you know please tell us.

Whatever smiffy...... You obviously also have your head in the sand. let me rephrase so that even you get it....
When someone can put a valid alternative on the table that is not based on hearsay, rumour, ifs buts or maybes then it will be acknowledged whole heartedly by me for sure

So let ME get this straight, you believe James Brent to be hearsay?, you believe James Brent to be a rumour?. You put so much store in the words that come from Brendan Guilfoyles mouth but even he said that if Heaney doesn't come good he'll have to revisit the other bidders who have remained involved.

As i've said before, NOTHING will convince you to open your mind, NOTHING will sway you from your hypnosis. You wouldn't recognise an alternative if it led a tap dancing troupe of 10,000 sequin encrusted showgirls singing "alternatives are here again".

Like I say, no-one can be that obtuse, my only possible theory is that you are Peter Ridsdale or Kevin Heaney, I claim my £10 prize .

It's funny I was thinking that, I don't want a share of your £10 but it would certainly explain how someone can be so blind to ANY other suggestions.

Whatever smiffy...... You obviously also have your head in the sand. let me rephrase so that even you get it....
When someone can put a valid alternative on the table that is not based on hearsay, rumour, ifs buts or maybes then it will be acknowledged whole heartedly by me for sure

So let ME get this straight, you believe James Brent to be hearsay?, you believe James Brent to be a rumour?. You put so much store in the words that come from Brendan Guilfoyles mouth but even he said that if Heaney doesn't come good he'll have to revisit the other bidders who have remained involved.

As i've said before, NOTHING will convince you to open your mind, NOTHING will sway you from your hypnosis. You wouldn't recognise an alternative if it led a tap dancing troupe of 10,000 sequin encrusted showgirls singing "alternatives are here again".

Like I say, no-one can be that obtuse, my only possible theory is that you are Peter Ridsdale or Kevin Heaney, I claim my £10 prize .

Tell us what are his plans? Try and respond without attacking Heaney, Guilefoyle or Ridsdale just simply tell us what Brent has in mind. How does he plan to pay off the debt etc?. This is a genuine question. If you know please tell us.

Why don't you tell us what plans your beloved PB's have?

James Brent. I've said it at least 10-20 times now, at least half of them to you directly, no-one can be that obtuse Marin(er) so as I know you are trying to wind me up, I refuse to bite.

Peeps, this head in the sand attitude is what causes me to come back and explain the same things again and again, so when you get the nark that i'm "banging on" you need to bear in mind who is causing the repetition .

But Smiffy, all you have come up with is a name. Put some meat on the bones, what does he offer exactly and can he provide it?

OK, seeing as you asked nicely, as did Frank...........

He provides.........

1) Trust

2) Transperency

3) Integrity

4) Honesty

5) Unity

We know who he is and what he looks like (see 1,2,3&4).

He has stated quite publicly his position (see 2&4).

The reason for his interest was a noble one, a footballing one. He wants Argyle to survive as a football club so Plymouth and the South-West Peninsula had football league representation. Many misconstrued as 'reluctance' his back-stop position a) he was hoping for a sugar daddy when all we got was a dodgy uncle and b) a reluctant but noble and capable man beats an enthusiastic self interested and incapable one every day (see 3&5).

He is a noble individual as evidenced by the waiving of his Plymouth development fee. Doesn't do things just for personal gain (see 1&4).

He is Plymouth literate, by which I mean he already has the ties with PCC and local business that Heaney has so palpably failed to engage with (see 1&5).

He knows what the football creditors rule is (see 1).

He didn't seek to b*llsh*t us, he was clear we were to be run sell sufficiently (see 1&4).

Above all he has a proven through his track record in business ESPECIALLY in the salvage of businesses in administration (see 1&3).

He's never overseen the liquidation of one of his companies (see 1&3).

He isn't looking to develop the ground (see 1,2&5).

He intends to keep Home Park and Plymouth Argyle Football Club together. The myth that sprung up about there being a precondition of sale to PCC is just rubbish. When asked about selling HP to someone for profit he replied that the only people he'd consider selling to in the future was PCC. What was actually a reassuring statement about keeping all facets of the club united was spun into something it wasn't - a desire to sell to PCC. He was hugely maligned by that spin. (see 1&5).

He will pay off the debts, in full, in one go, not defer the debts onto the football club for future settlement (see 1&3).

I've tried to keep that focused on the positive but I can't escape the point that in all those points you must compare and contrast with the PB's we have today, you will find stark contrasts .

Can he deliver?. Yes he can. No-one comes with a guarentee, you have to weight up the likelyhood, the probability and with James Brent you need look no further than his business portfolio - a string of successful companies most salvaged from the scrap head........which is where we find ourselves.

He always represented the best alternative for the fans and most certainly for football as he kept everything together, all available options for future development would remain under him, a mutual benefit from those developments would also remain (not just a foreign ownership property cream off).

So there you have it, those were the qualities that first made me nail my colours to his mast, i've been entirely consistent in my support throughout as at no point have I seen anything better in the other alternatives. I understand why BG picked made the wrong choice (from fans and footballs perspective) but this time is now overdue to reverse that decision because Heaney can't deliver, he no longer represents "the best deal for creditors", James Brent does.

Even Brenda says there are alternatives but you Heinous Heaney Brown Nosers just ignore it .

As I have said before time and time again....... Guilfoyle will only know what he knew about the other 2 bidders when he spoke to them last which was when the exclusivity agreement was made. He is not placed to say that unless he broke the agreement. Buttivant still has not proved funds (if he could then surely he would be shouting it from the roof tops)
Brent.... Well he specialises in bringing businesses in administration back from the dead... He makes redundancies, cuts and asset strips. He wanted to pay creditors less, he wanted to sell the ground to the council and most importantly he didn't really want to get involved.
so unless that's changed then I for one don't want to go down that path at this stage...

so I didn't ignore anything. I challenged it and have been conveniently ignored and the doubters have just ploughed on with the same bulldozed piles of hearsay, rumours, ifs buts and maybes

You have ignored many peoples arguments, including mine, on copious threads. You have consistently ignored any attempts to offer you proof of any kind, including the words of Guilfoyle himself(They may not mean much to me, but you seem to swear by them). Therefore I can only conclude that either you are a member of the bidding group, or have completely given up any effort to forward a reasoned argument. Your arguments have not progressed one jot, despite the various new information that has emerged recently. Have you ever considered that your arguments may need adapting in the light of copious new information? At least so they make some semblance of sense.

Bravo X Isle - simply brilliant synopsis! On that, I would rest my case!

Even Brenda says there are alternatives but you Heinous Heaney Brown Nosers just ignore it .

As I have said before time and time again....... Guilfoyle will only know what he knew about the other 2 bidders when he spoke to them last which was when the exclusivity agreement was made. He is not placed to say that unless he broke the agreement. Buttivant still has not proved funds (if he could then surely he would be shouting it from the roof tops)
Brent.... Well he specialises in bringing businesses in administration back from the dead... He makes redundancies, cuts and asset strips. He wanted to pay creditors less, he wanted to sell the ground to the council and most importantly he didn't really want to get involved.
so unless that's changed then I for one don't want to go down that path at this stage...

so I didn't ignore anything. I challenged it and have been conveniently ignored and the doubters have just ploughed on with the same bulldozed piles of hearsay, rumours, ifs buts and maybes

You have ignored many peoples arguments, including mine, on copious threads. You have consistently ignored any attempts to offer you proof of any kind, including the words of Guilfoyle himself(They may not mean much to me, but you seem to swear by them). Therefore I can only conclude that either you are a member of the bidding group, or have completely given up any effort to forward a reasoned argument. Your arguments have not progressed one jot, despite the various new information that has emerged recently. Have you ever considered that your arguments may need adapting in the light of copious new information? At least so they make some semblance of sense.

Oi Tavy, NO!

I said he was Ridsdale or Heaney first and the £10 is mine. What's more i'll fight you 'shirts off stylee' on top of hound tor if you try to claim it, grrrrrrr .

James Brent. I've said it at least 10-20 times now, at least half of them to you directly, no-one can be that obtuse Marin(er) so as I know you are trying to wind me up, I refuse to bite.

Peeps, this head in the sand attitude is what causes me to come back and explain the same things again and again, so when you get the nark that i'm "banging on" you need to bear in mind who is causing the repetition .

But Smiffy, all you have come up with is a name. Put some meat on the bones, what does he offer exactly and can he provide it?

OK, seeing as you asked nicely, as did Frank...........

He provides.........

1) Trust

2) Transperency

3) Integrity

4) Honesty

5) Unity

We know who he is and what he looks like (see 1,2,3&4).

He has stated quite publicly his position (see 2&4).

The reason for his interest was a noble one, a footballing one. He wants Argyle to survive as a football club so Plymouth and the South-West Peninsula had football league representation. Many misconstrued as 'reluctance' his back-stop position a) he was hoping for a sugar daddy when all we got was a dodgy uncle and b) a reluctant but noble and capable man beats an enthusiastic self interested and incapable one every day (see 3&5).

He is a noble individual as evidenced by the waiving of his Plymouth development fee. Doesn't do things just for personal gain (see 1&4).

He is Plymouth literate, by which I mean he already has the ties with PCC and local business that Heaney has so palpably failed to engage with (see 1&5).

He knows what the football creditors rule is (see 1).

He didn't seek to b*llsh*t us, he was clear we were to be run sell sufficiently (see 1&4).

Above all he has a proven through his track record in business ESPECIALLY in the salvage of businesses in administration (see 1&3).

He's never overseen the liquidation of one of his companies (see 1&3).

He isn't looking to develop the ground (see 1,2&5).

He intends to keep Home Park and Plymouth Argyle Football Club together. The myth that sprung up about there being a precondition of sale to PCC is just rubbish. When asked about selling HP to someone for profit he replied that the only people he'd consider selling to in the future was PCC. What was actually a reassuring statement about keeping all facets of the club united was spun into something it wasn't - a desire to sell to PCC. He was hugely maligned by that spin. (see 1&5).

He will pay off the debts, in full, in one go, not defer the debts onto the football club for future settlement (see 1&3).

I've tried to keep that focused on the positive but I can't escape the point that in all those points you must compare and contrast with the PB's we have today, you will find stark contrasts .

Can he deliver?. Yes he can. No-one comes with a guarentee, you have to weight up the likelyhood, the probability and with James Brent you need look no further than his business portfolio - a string of successful companies most salvaged from the scrap head........which is where we find ourselves.

He always represented the best alternative for the fans and most certainly for football as he kept everything together, all available options for future development would remain under him, a mutual benefit from those developments would also remain (not just a foreign ownership property cream off).

So there you have it, those were the qualities that first made me nail my colours to his mast, i've been entirely consistent in my support throughout as at no point have I saw anything better in the other alternatives. I understand why BG picked made the wrong choice (from fans and footballs perspective) but this time is now overdue to reverse that decision because Heaney can't deliver, he no longer represents "the best deal for creditors", James Brent does.

If his offer was to pay off all debts in full (all £7-8m of them) why isn't he the preferred bidder? I would love for you to be right, I truly would, all our problems would disappear but it is frankly unbelievable.

The magnificent seven wouldnt put the money into Argyle to keep it afloat once their gun of the world cup at dissapeared because they realised that the chances of getting the planning permission to build what they wanted was very slim to say the least. Also it would take at least three years before there was any chance of a return. I cannot see them funding somebody else when they wouldnt when they owned it.

James Brent. I've said it at least 10-20 times now, at least half of them to you directly, no-one can be that obtuse Marin(er) so as I know you are trying to wind me up, I refuse to bite.

Peeps, this head in the sand attitude is what causes me to come back and explain the same things again and again, so when you get the nark that i'm "banging on" you need to bear in mind who is causing the repetition .

But Smiffy, all you have come up with is a name. Put some meat on the bones, what does he offer exactly and can he provide it?

OK, seeing as you asked nicely, as did Frank...........

He provides.........

1) Trust

2) Transperency

3) Integrity

4) Honesty

5) Unity

We know who he is and what he looks like (see 1,2,3&4).

He has stated quite publicly his position (see 2&4).

The reason for his interest was a noble one, a footballing one. He wants Argyle to survive as a football club so Plymouth and the South-West Peninsula had football league representation. Many misconstrued as 'reluctance' his back-stop position a) he was hoping for a sugar daddy when all we got was a dodgy uncle and b) a reluctant but noble and capable man beats an enthusiastic self interested and incapable one every day (see 3&5).

He is a noble individual as evidenced by the waiving of his Plymouth development fee. Doesn't do things just for personal gain (see 1&4).

He is Plymouth literate, by which I mean he already has the ties with PCC and local business that Heaney has so palpably failed to engage with (see 1&5).

He knows what the football creditors rule is (see 1).

He didn't seek to b*llsh*t us, he was clear we were to be run sell sufficiently (see 1&4).

Above all he has a proven through his track record in business ESPECIALLY in the salvage of businesses in administration (see 1&3).

He's never overseen the liquidation of one of his companies (see 1&3).

He isn't looking to develop the ground (see 1,2&5).

He intends to keep Home Park and Plymouth Argyle Football Club together. The myth that sprung up about there being a precondition of sale to PCC is just rubbish. When asked about selling HP to someone for profit he replied that the only people he'd consider selling to in the future was PCC. What was actually a reassuring statement about keeping all facets of the club united was spun into something it wasn't - a desire to sell to PCC. He was hugely maligned by that spin. (see 1&5).

He will pay off the debts, in full, in one go, not defer the debts onto the football club for future settlement (see 1&3).

I've tried to keep that focused on the positive but I can't escape the point that in all those points you must compare and contrast with the PB's we have today, you will find stark contrasts .

Can he deliver?. Yes he can. No-one comes with a guarentee, you have to weight up the likelyhood, the probability and with James Brent you need look no further than his business portfolio - a string of successful companies most salvaged from the scrap head........which is where we find ourselves.

He always represented the best alternative for the fans and most certainly for football as he kept everything together, all available options for future development would remain under him, a mutual benefit from those developments would also remain (not just a foreign ownership property cream off).

So there you have it, those were the qualities that first made me nail my colours to his mast, i've been entirely consistent in my support throughout as at no point have I saw anything better in the other alternatives. I understand why BG picked made the wrong choice (from fans and footballs perspective) but this time is now overdue to reverse that decision because Heaney can't deliver, he no longer represents "the best deal for creditors", James Brent does.

Everything he says is true. Put x isle on the board

Es - he isn't the preferred bidder becaue he didn't grease the.......no sorry, offer a better deal to, "certain" creditors.

Also as I posted on the 'message from Guilfoyle' thread just now you have to remember who picked the administrator in the first place and where, consequently, his priorities might lie. Now Ridders will say that he had no intention of buying Argyle for £1, it was al a happy accident - but are you seriously expecting us to believe that it never came up in conversation between Heaney and Ridsdale at Lanhydrock Golf Club, that they merely discussed the friendly match. It's now clear they knew all along who the PB was but were "acting on solicitors advice'' in denying it. Now we know that we can see that the Lanhydrock golf meeting was every bit of a carve up as that infamous meeting between Blair and Brown in that Islington restaurant all those years ago.

Northwestroad1 - putting me on the board would alienate just about everyone within two weeks, not a very good idea .

These threads are interesting & sometimes informative but imho whilst we all argue & discuss the pros & cons yet nothing concrete materialises Argyle slip further down the slope to oblivion rather than get beached for repairs in Div 4 (sorry , I mean League 2!).

As far as I can judge we were royally ferked over by the malignant 7 & we've been ferked around with for months by a bunch of ferkers who don't give a ferk about us & are just out to get what they ferkin can as cheap as they can even if they have to ferk the club, staff, fans & local population over to get it. I've ferkin had enough of the lot of em, bunch of ferkers!

I'm firmly of the opinion that if the PB's can't get their act together then Brenda should move on to the next worst scenario & that should be happening as of yesterday, tomorrow may be too late & each further delay is just another obstacle Argyle will have to try to clear in their survival bid.