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Re: Notes From Meeting with Brendan Guilfoyle et al

Posted: 20:55 07 Jul 2011
by bizzay1
Just 1 query - am I right in thinking that we only ever paid the council a "peppercorn" rent when they owned HP ? Must be 25 years free rent now then !

Re: Notes From Meeting with Brendan Guilfoyle et al

Posted: 20:55 07 Jul 2011
by Chris Webb
bizzay1 wrote: Thanks for this Chris & the rest - BUT WHAT WAS THE HEATED BIT ?? PM's would be acceptable ;)


Ian was fuming that they provided digestives instead of shortbread :)

In truth it was what I would hope all Argyle Fans' would want to see. Us passionately defending our right to have a view, have a mind of our own and to object to things we do not like.

Re: Notes From Meeting with Brendan Guilfoyle et al

Posted: 20:55 07 Jul 2011
by Arch Stanton
Thanks for the insight into todays events Chris..

Some positive stuff there regarding HP rental rates / time period of lease and the Bristol City friendly gate receipts..

Re: Notes From Meeting with Brendan Guilfoyle et al

Posted: 20:56 07 Jul 2011
by Gareth Nicholson
bizzay1 wrote: Just 1 query - am I right in thinking that we only ever paid the council a "peppercorn" rent when they owned HP ? Must be 25 years free rent now then !


Given there is no longer a commercial relationship between the two bodies, I should imagine that information would be FOIable.

Re: Notes From Meeting with Brendan Guilfoyle et al

Posted: 20:59 07 Jul 2011
by oddball
Ridsdale looking to sell 5500 season tickets made me laugh...this is Argyle me old Riddler not Cardiff City...things will be looking good if you sell 550...I wont part with a penny until the staff are paid in full...could be a while then...

Re: Notes From Meeting with Brendan Guilfoyle et al

Posted: 21:01 07 Jul 2011
by teds73
oddball wrote: Ridsdale looking to sell 5500 season tickets made me laugh...this is Argyle me old Riddler not Cardiff City...things will be looking good if you sell 550...I wont part with a penny until the staff are paid in full...could be a while then...

:iagree:
just pay the staff ffs.

Re: Notes From Meeting with Brendan Guilfoyle et al

Posted: 21:02 07 Jul 2011
by The Doctor
It seems to me that Guilfoyle has consistently done everything he possible can to give Heaney and co the maximum possible opportunity to conclude the deal, including, quite unbelievably in my opinion, a deal involving a deposit of £0. So, from here, there is now absolutely no financial penalty for the PB if they walk away from things. My gut instinct about this is that BG knows that his professional reputation depends on him being able to walk away from Argyle with this particular deal having been done. He simply cannot afford for it to fail. So, he has ignored deadlines, agreed to keep things secret, agreed to minimal advance payments and now zero deposit so there is no penalty for the PB if they pull out because he has to help the PB in every possible way that he can.

Re: Notes From Meeting with Brendan Guilfoyle et al

Posted: 21:03 07 Jul 2011
by Womble
Do people seriously beleive the statement that the ST money will be ringfenced for future use?

They have a cheek emotionally blackmailing people into buying season rickets. For the life of me I dont see the cause for any delay. Surely if the contracts are signed and they have the moeny the deal should be completed byefore the weekend? 4-6 weeks sounds unecessaryly long to me.

Re: Notes From Meeting with Brendan Guilfoyle et al

Posted: 21:06 07 Jul 2011
by plym1969
Is Heaney the brother of Rebeka Wade (nee Brooks) ? Or is he Murdock's love child? I know Ridsdale was wanted by Cameron to be his press officer but was found to have too much integrity! Don't all the people in the news these days both local and national seem to come from the same cesspit of moral standards where a lie is only a lie if you are found out?

Seriously though, they were asked to pay £1mil for exclusivity and pay£300K until the day it all finally goes through. So if there is a hitch and the deal falls through Argyle are £700K short and have a couple of days to sort out a new buyer before the season starts: and Brenda thinks he's done a good job? FFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :banghead:

So will I give these men £400 for a season ticket? £300? £200? NO. Mr Ridsdale I will not pay upfront. 5500 season tickets to watch League 2 sh1te? Please can you tell me what medication you are on because it must be good stuff. In Ridsdale's world the sky is blue, the grass is green, Home Park is full and we all rejoice that he's saved our club as we sign up for season tickets just because he's asked us to.

BTW I walk 20 mins to get to Home Park so I don't care if the buses are free :x

Re: Notes From Meeting with Brendan Guilfoyle et al

Posted: 21:09 07 Jul 2011
by Martin Thomas
The Doctor wrote: It seems to me that Guilfoyle has consistently done everything he possible can to give Heaney and co the maximum possible opportunity to conclude the deal, including, quite unbelievably in my opinion, a deal involving a deposit of £0. So, from here, there is now absolutely no financial penalty for the PB if they walk away from things. My gut instinct about this is that BG knows that his professional reputation depends on him being able to walk away from Argyle with this particular deal having been done. He simply cannot afford for it to fail. So, he has ignored deadlines, agreed to keep things secret, agreed to minimal advance payments and now zero deposit so there is no penalty for the PB if they pull out because he has to help the PB in every possible way that he can.

But they can only walk away if the FL refuse to sanction the deal. Keep up :wink:

Re: Notes From Meeting with Brendan Guilfoyle et al

Posted: 21:11 07 Jul 2011
by Chris Webb
Womble wrote: Do people seriously beleive the statement that the ST money will be ringfenced for future use?

They have a cheek emotionally blackmailing people into buying season rickets. For the life of me I dont see the cause for any delay. Surely if the contracts are signed and they have the moeny the deal should be completed byefore the weekend? 4-6 weeks sounds unecessaryly long to me.


To be fair, that is probably one thing that can be said as true because its covered by the law. The Administrator would run the account and release the cash on a game by game basis once the season commenced - if we were still in admin.

Re: Notes From Meeting with Brendan Guilfoyle et al

Posted: 21:16 07 Jul 2011
by Laughter My Ploy
Surely simply by giving the club money...albeit as a lump sum...Heaney is having an influence on two clubs

There is a world of difference between handing over 100k or £1mill....and has a direct impact on turnover and what can be spent on players wages

Re: Notes From Meeting with Brendan Guilfoyle et al

Posted: 21:25 07 Jul 2011
by Keepitgreen
The Doctor wrote: It seems to me that Guilfoyle has consistently done everything he possible can to give Heaney and co the maximum possible opportunity to conclude the deal, including, quite unbelievably in my opinion, a deal involving a deposit of £0. So, from here, there is now absolutely no financial penalty for the PB if they walk away from things. My gut instinct about this is that BG knows that his professional reputation depends on him being able to walk away from Argyle with this particular deal having been done. He simply cannot afford for it to fail. So, he has ignored deadlines, agreed to keep things secret, agreed to minimal advance payments and now zero deposit so there is no penalty for the PB if they pull out because he has to help the PB in every possible way that he can.

Spot on Doc. Here's an extract from the Herald on Friday 17th June;

The preferred bidders agreed a £1million-plus 'exclusivity' deal with administrators that locks rival bidders out of the talks. But their first instalment was two weeks late and the next, thought to be around £200,000, is due on Tuesday.

Here we are 3 weeks later, exclusivity at an end, and all they've paid is £300,000. Today's meeting has made my mind up - no season ticket.