As normal the language is florrid but this sounds more like a political manifesto than a serious attempt to save a football club.

There is no statement from James Brent that he will allow others with less experience to dictate the sort of company he would own and one would assume run.

From the first moment this "baby" was mooted I have asked Why?. Why would the only person with the money hand over responsibility for running the campaign to those not experienced in such matters. We know James is no football fan let alone an Argyle one and when he had the opportunity to become the PB didnt take it. He may be genuine in what his says about the place of Argyle in the community, but he sure aint going to pay for it over and above the minimum he can get away with. Many of us saw this reticense as the first sign he didnt really want to be here and nothing since has changed my mind on that point.

So I ask again Why. Why would James Brent risk, lets face it, considerable sums of his own money when no one else apparently will and take no responsibility for it. Why would a successful businessman, an otherwise intelligent man, let a band of brothers dictate how he spends it.

I can not for the life of me understand why anyone would wish to hand of some influence to a Trust with less than 1,100 paying members, although that figure may have increased recently, no current figure appears available. And before anyone says its more than the Trust, all I can say is then they are neutered like a Tom Cat as its Chris and the Trust that are running rings around you all. On a personal note I have to say Chris has played a blinder and will no doubt not be facing election for Trust Chairman in the forthcoming election.

I note one of the aims is to review pricing, especially for the young, shame when they had the chance in talks with the club they didnt express them then.

I also note that none of the other constituent grounps issue statements, another aspect I have found worrying and facsinating in equal measure.

But the bit that saddens me most is people like me who are oppossed to Heaney and frankly, his failure to either explain or complete also find we have nothing to support by way of Goverance. To date I have not renewed my ST, as things stand I would find it difficult to financially support this Contingency Plan as presently constituted. personally, this is a lose/lose.

Yeah, it's rubbish isn't it.

Seriously - what a typical and somewhat pathetic old-school washed-up Janner response. Moan moan moan.

What are you prepared to do to help the club, Mr Cholwell?

Good question, I have supported everything sponsored by the GT's, including buying tickets for things I didnt/couldnt attend, like yesterday and like many other fans.

Ive also been known to walk around the BL on numerous occasions to collect money for the staff and buy numerous items at auction my wife would probably prefer I didnt.

And you have done............?

I only ask but you're a newish poster who I have not encountered before.

I stand corrected

What really worries me Tony is, you could easily become like one of those sad gimps on ATD. You know the sort, tell you everything that is wrong about Argyle fans and PAFC but never attend themselves.

Grumpy Loyal, falls into the same category, too busy slagging off decent people rather than attempting to see what they are trying to do.

I'm not too bothered for myself, I get slagged off by lots of people, however, it pees me off big time, for the people that have put themselves out for the sake of PAFC.

If I met anyone face to face, including you Tony, I'd say give your backsides a chance!!

Meanwhile Grumpy and his like, can carry on being a detractor, from behind a keyboard.

Well done all for your great work.

Mr Guilfoyle responded (email dated 29/7/11) stating that he wished to focus on completing the sale to the Preferred Bidder and that he ‘cannot currently engage’ with the Contingency Plan Committee.

Now that the completion date has gone from 5 August to 12 August to 31 August, I would have thought BG would have plenty of time on his hands while he's waiting for Heaney to make his other sale.

I think the Committee should be congratulated on producing such a clear Mission statement. I can't see any way in which the details laid out in Chris's post can't be welcomed by all Argyle supporters. it's been made clear (as if it wasn't already) that this is a plan contingent upon the PB's not completing, and the manifesto ticks all the right boxes as far as I'm concerned. Well done all, and thanks for such a full and speedy update.

There will inevitably follow the usual gripes from the usual suspects, the usual pathetic Janner jealousy/kn0b comparison issues where anyone or anything created locally is shot down. Probably a waste of breath but I would just ask that any suggestions even any criticism remains constructive. It's simply too important an issue for the usual descent into petty local jealousy.

For my part Chris and the team thank you, your sterling efforts on all our behalves (even if they are not appreciated by some) are to your collective credit. My sincere appreciation for that.

I know some are itching for the Plan B project to go further (if it were left to me armed revolution would be in the manifesto ) but please be understanding that it can't set itself up as a direct competitor. Guilfoyle holds all the cards as it's a clearly defined process........he might be able to bend and twist the timescales and rules as he goes along but we can't. Look between the wording of the press statement at the subtext though and you'll see Chris is pushing the buttons required and laying the foundations for pressure should the deadlines keep slipping...........which they will .

For Christs sake, no amount of Commitee name changing, comments or manifesto gumph is going to disguise the fact that this is still purely a bid by James Brent. Plain and simple.

If your going to expand any further than that, then u could call it 'Brents bid, supported by a few who a) yes, do want Argyle to survive, but, b) don't half love the sound of their own voices.'

It's Brents Bid. So just say it like it is FFS.

Brent's bid was always a contingency plan. He didn't bid to make lots of money, or he would have paid for exclusivity. He has always wanted to see the survival of the club, but was willing to step aside for a better option. The better option became a crap option, because of Heaney's involvement and the loss of his funding.

In the short time available, is there a better person to turn to for contingency? This was a bidder who had full approval of BG until a "better" bid was put on the table at the last moment. Do you have any better suggestions?

I have read the press release/manifesto/mission statement - and I conclude thus : The Contingency Plan Team has shown more honesty, integrity, transparency, intelligence, and diligence in four weeks than Guilfoyle and his PB pals in 4 months....

Now do the right thing Brendon - Get Heaney to Pay up or pish off! No more flexi-deadlines....


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Good point Balham

Its a shame I dont have the cash myself, I suspect like most other Argyle fans, but when we need clarity and a return to good order we are faced with 2 choices dreampt up in hell as far as Im concerned.

So, my better idea, which to be honest hurts me is that I become an away fan and pray a lot harder on Sundays.

Bit of a flaw in your better idea Tony? If the PB or the contingency plan don't takeover then the likelihood would be that there would be no away days to attend. I'm sure we'd all love a multi millionaire green blooded white knight to step in, but these are the cards we have been dealt. The PB is in the driving seat, but if they fail to complete then I would support those involved in the contingency plan all the way. My thanks go to all of those involved for your efforts. How nice it will be to get back to watching football!

A big well done and thank-you to Chris and everyone else involved with The Trust's work and putting together 'the contingency plan'.

A few people are moaning but it seems pretty clear that the vast majority of us are 100% behind you and really appreciate everything you are doing!!

Keep up the great work and thanks again....

As an outsider looking in.Many of your fans working very hard to come up with a contingency plan,many who have given up many hours of there own time,even time off work.

Others just want to moan and do bugger all,You can criticize if you get off your ass and do something.

I would hate to see Risdale and Co take Argyle over .Hope you get your trust up and running.Just an idea,you could do a lottery style draw once a week, the size of Plymouth you could generate some good money that way.All the best youlondabecool

For Christs sake, no amount of Commitee name changing, comments or manifesto gumph is going to disguise the fact that this is still purely a bid by James Brent. Plain and simple.

If your going to expand any further than that, then u could call it 'Brents bid, supported by a few who a) yes, do want Argyle to survive, but, b) don't half love the sound of their own voices.'

It's Brents Bid. So just say it like it is FFS.

Brent's bid was always a contingency plan. He didn't bid to make lots of money, or he would have paid for exclusivity. He has always wanted to see the survival of the club, but was willing to step aside for a better option.

He didn't bid to make lots of money?

That's pretty strange for a businessman.

Are you sure about that?

Or is this a Pasoti fact.

For Christs sake, no amount of Commitee name changing, comments or manifesto gumph is going to disguise the fact that this is still purely a bid by James Brent. Plain and simple.

If your going to expand any further than that, then u could call it 'Brents bid, supported by a few who a) yes, do want Argyle to survive, but, b) don't half love the sound of their own voices.'

It's Brents Bid. So just say it like it is FFS.

Brent's bid was always a contingency plan. He didn't bid to make lots of money, or he would have paid for exclusivity. He has always wanted to see the survival of the club, but was willing to step aside for a better option.

He didn't bid to make lots of money?

That's pretty strange for a businessman.

Are you sure about that?

Or is this a Pasoti fact.

Pasoti Myth I fear.

I thought Brents plan was to build an Akkeron Chain hotel on the car park and PAFC would have a slice of profit from it.

The Riddler would run the football side club as a CEO..

Apologies for going off track, but what is the latest position regarding the golden share? Is this affected by the extension to the SAP process?

To all involved in the contigency plan btw