I watched Ridsdale walk down the slope to the DE and thought by the expression on his face that it was all over .

Thinking about it he may just be as peed off with all this as we are . He looked like he'd had enough .

He's probably pi$$ed off because he's working with a bunch of amateurs who have no money...

Nothing new there then.

S.N.A.F.U........

Nothing has changed. This is an extension in all but name.

I'm more concerned over why BIL insist on such a veil of secrecy on who they actually are. If this was a "big league" takeover of Man Utd or Liverpool I could maybe understand it, but this is Plymouth, small fry which has barely been reported outside of Devon.

So why are the mysterious consortium wishing to remain secret? One can only surmise that they have a former relationship with the club, perhaps they are seeking to reclaim lost funds. They gambled, they lost. Accept it.

This..........is why Heaney can go screw himself, and why we do not want, or need, him, his backers, or Ridsdale anywhere near this football club.

So the funding is secure is it Guilfoyle? In which case you can reveal who is behind it.

I won't be holding my breath.

Nothing has changed. This is an extension in all but name.

I'm more concerned over why BIL insist on such a veil of secrecy on who they actually are. If this was a "big league" takeover of Man Utd or Liverpool I could maybe understand it, but this is Plymouth, small fry which has barely been reported outside of Devon.

So why are the mysterious consortium wishing to remain secret? One can only surmise that they have a former relationship with the club, perhaps they are seeking to reclaim lost funds. They gambled, they lost. Accept it.

This..........is why Heaney can go screw himself, and why we do not want, or need, him, his backers, or Ridsdale anywhere near this football club.

So the funding is secure is it Guilfoyle? In which case you can reveal who is behind it.

I won't be holding my breath.

and if ladbrokes offered you a chance to get your money back you would say no thats very big of you.

.....But Ladbrokes wouldn't...

Nothing has changed. This is an extension in all but name.

I'm more concerned over why BIL insist on such a veil of secrecy on who they actually are. If this was a "big league" takeover of Man Utd or Liverpool I could maybe understand it, but this is Plymouth, small fry which has barely been reported outside of Devon.

So why are the mysterious consortium wishing to remain secret? One can only surmise that they have a former relationship with the club, perhaps they are seeking to reclaim lost funds. They gambled, they lost. Accept it.

This..........is why Heaney can go screw himself, and why we do not want, or need, him, his backers, or Ridsdale anywhere near this football club.

So the funding is secure is it Guilfoyle? In which case you can reveal who is behind it.

I won't be holding my breath.

The secrecy is in place to protect PASOTI, PASOTI members, public services and ultimately the world as we know it.

If all the information were released at once, PASOTI would fall over with the weight of traffic, posters would overburden the NHS with RSI and stress related problems, productivity would cease, relationships would break down and society would crumble.

Social services wouldn't know where to start. The Samaritans would be calling themselves due to the massive workload.

If we had all the information to hand, Plymouth would no longer function. The malaise would spread and bring the country down. This would then have a knock on effect (as with the recent unrest is several countries) and engulf the planet.

In short, it would trigger the end of the world!

Nothing has changed. This is an extension in all but name.

I'm more concerned over why BIL insist on such a veil of secrecy on who they actually are. If this was a "big league" takeover of Man Utd or Liverpool I could maybe understand it, but this is Plymouth, small fry which has barely been reported outside of Devon.

So why are the mysterious consortium wishing to remain secret? One can only surmise that they have a former relationship with the club, perhaps they are seeking to reclaim lost funds. They gambled, they lost. Accept it.

This..........is why Heaney can go screw himself, and why we do not want, or need, him, his backers, or Ridsdale anywhere near this football club.

So the funding is secure is it Guilfoyle? In which case you can reveal who is behind it.

I won't be holding my breath.

The secrecy is in place to protect PASOTI, PASOTI members, public services and ultimately the world as we know it.

If all the information were released at once, PASOTI would fall over with the weight of traffic, posters would overburden the NHS with RSI and stress related problems, productivity would cease, relationships would break down and society would crumble.

Social services wouldn't know where to start. The Samaritans would be calling themselves due to the massive workload.

If we had all the information to hand, Plymouth would no longer function. The malaise would spread and bring the country down. This would then have a knock on effect (as with the recent unrest is several countries) and engulf the planet.

In short, it would trigger the end of the world!

I think you will find it is a bit more serious than that John.

Blimey, difficult to decide whether this is good news or bad.

The most important thing surely has to be the survival of the football club.

Crewe at home anyone??

I should imagine the decision as to whether you view it as good or bad news will fall pretty much in line with the relative battle lines drawn during the process. To that end it will come as no surprise to anyone that this is to me the worst of all news.

I have considered my football club to be devoid of spirit and function dead for the last couple of months anyway, this news would just be the switching off of the life support machine, the confirmation of death. While the machine was on though there was always the hope of a miracle, with the switching off of the machine that miracle can not now come.

You are correct in your assertion that the most important thing is the survival of the football club and in that regards I agree. The football club however is NOT the cheap and nasty team going through the motions in a cheap and nasty football kit with the promise of a cheap and nasty certificate if you give a hooky businessman lots of money to be a 'founding father' of the said cheap and nasty rip-off cuckoo in our nest.

F**K PAFC 125.

F**K Peter Ridsdale.

F**K Kevin Heaney.

F**K you very much Brendan Guilfoyle.

Viva Plymouth Argyle, it lives on in memory only now, the spirit, history and tradition preserved in our hearts and on Greens On Screen forever. THAT club, OUR club survives and one day it'll make a return, we WILL get our club back one day but 124 years stops here.

I understand where your coming from, but at least now the staff and players who have displayed such loyalty and integrity towards the club will get the back pay they are owed, rather than be left with nothing. In case of the staff I would think this statement would come as some relief and now for the first time in a long while they may get a good night's sleep.

Whilst I am sympathetic to your position, I think we need to adapt to the reality on the ground. Today there is a possibility of the club moving forward, though I'm know you believe it a retrograde step and a false dawn, nevertheless despite what we think about the deal and the secrecy of it, the fact remains there will be a collective sigh of relief echoed around home park, from the Manager, the players, staff and the supporters.

The process itself has caused division and anxiety amongst the fan base, but now is the time to be flexible and forgiving. We need to adapt and survive in the first instance and then look to what the future brings. I would have loved the Brent/Trust thing to work, but for whatever reason (a stitch up included) it was never given the chance. We now have potential new owners—whoever they might be, but they are not the football club. Peter Reid, the staff, the players and the fans who bought season tickets are that, and if the vigil, the marches, the trust and all who care have proved one thing it's that the Argyle spirit remains with them, not those who've clinched a deal today. The honour with which the club representatives have conducted themselves have shown the Argyle spirit remains. I would have hated to see that die today because of liquidation. No one knows the future, but whatever you think of the situation one thing is clear, we need to adapt and move on.

Sorry, can't seem to adapt to the reality on the ground. You see we're being screwed from behind, have been for months now (no wonder he's exhausted . So nomatter how hard I try every time I turn round and try to imagine something less offensive is happening , something less painful, something more enjoyable is going on I just see a sweaty white haired Yorkshireman saying "who's your daddy, who's your daddy".

You can't put what's going on into a dress and call it Pippa Middleton. You can't close your eyes and pretend it's just a game of leapfrog.

Your choice of words there is what i'd imagine goes through the mind of a young prisoner placed in a cell with a seven foot 'lifer' wearing make-up............. "OK, i'm gonna need to adapt to the reality on the ground here and get used to the idea of being right royally ****ed every day for the rest of my life".

That's called subsmission, it's called giving up, it's called putting to one side your values and morals and accepting your fate. I won't do that, someone is trying to f**k me over and i'll fight back with every last breath.

So I stand totally by that initial reaction to hearing money was in place and the deal is going ahread. I temper it only by saying I was just out the door to visit a relative in hospital, it was an emotional gut reaction. It turns out on more calm reflection to be just more of the same prevaracation bollox from Guilfoyle. There is therefore still some chance of a miracle afterall, but if/when that life support machine DOES finally get switched off the reaction will be just the same, there will be no biting down on pillows and thinking of England from me.

Oh i dunno. Submission can be fun...If you relax in to it.

Blimey, difficult to decide whether this is good news or bad.

The most important thing surely has to be the survival of the football club.

Crewe at home anyone??

I should imagine the decision as to whether you view it as good or bad news will fall pretty much in line with the relative battle lines drawn during the process. To that end it will come as no surprise to anyone that this is to me the worst of all news.

I have considered my football club to be devoid of spirit and function dead for the last couple of months anyway, this news would just be the switching off of the life support machine, the confirmation of death. While the machine was on though there was always the hope of a miracle, with the switching off of the machine that miracle can not now come.

You are correct in your assertion that the most important thing is the survival of the football club and in that regards I agree. The football club however is NOT the cheap and nasty team going through the motions in a cheap and nasty football kit with the promise of a cheap and nasty certificate if you give a hooky businessman lots of money to be a 'founding father' of the said cheap and nasty rip-off cuckoo in our nest.

F**K PAFC 125.

F**K Peter Ridsdale.

F**K Kevin Heaney.

F**K you very much Brendan Guilfoyle.

Viva Plymouth Argyle, it lives on in memory only now, the spirit, history and tradition preserved in our hearts and on Greens On Screen forever. THAT club, OUR club survives and one day it'll make a return, we WILL get our club back one day but 124 years stops here.

I understand where your coming from, but at least now the staff and players who have displayed such loyalty and integrity towards the club will get the back pay they are owed, rather than be left with nothing. In case of the staff I would think this statement would come as some relief and now for the first time in a long while they may get a good night's sleep.

Whilst I am sympathetic to your position, I think we need to adapt to the reality on the ground. Today there is a possibility of the club moving forward, though I'm know you believe it a retrograde step and a false dawn, nevertheless despite what we think about the deal and the secrecy of it, the fact remains there will be a collective sigh of relief echoed around home park, from the Manager, the players, staff and the supporters.

The process itself has caused division and anxiety amongst the fan base, but now is the time to be flexible and forgiving. We need to adapt and survive in the first instance and then look to what the future brings. I would have loved the Brent/Trust thing to work, but for whatever reason (a stitch up included) it was never given the chance. We now have potential new owners—whoever they might be, but they are not the football club. Peter Reid, the staff, the players and the fans who bought season tickets are that, and if the vigil, the marches, the trust and all who care have proved one thing it's that the Argyle spirit remains with them, not those who've clinched a deal today. The honour with which the club representatives have conducted themselves have shown the Argyle spirit remains. I would have hated to see that die today because of liquidation. No one knows the future, but whatever you think of the situation one thing is clear, we need to adapt and move on.

Sorry, can't seem to adapt to the reality on the ground. You see we're being screwed from behind, have been for months now (no wonder he's exhausted . So nomatter how hard I try every time I turn round and try to imagine something less offensive is happening , something less painful, something more enjoyable is going on I just see a sweaty white haired Yorkshireman saying "who's your daddy, who's your daddy".

You can't put what's going on into a dress and call it Pippa Middleton. You can't close your eyes and pretend it's just a game of leapfrog.

Your choice of words there is what i'd imagine goes through the mind of a young prisoner placed in a cell with a seven foot 'lifer' wearing make-up............. "OK, i'm gonna need to adapt to the reality on the ground here and get used to the idea of being right royally ****ed every day for the rest of my life".

That's called subsmission, it's called giving up, it's called putting to one side your values and morals and accepting your fate. I won't do that, someone is trying to f**k me over and i'll fight back with every last breath.

So I stand totally by that initial reaction to hearing money was in place and the deal is going ahread. I temper it only by saying I was just out the door to visit a relative in hospital, it was an emotional gut reaction. It turns out on more calm reflection to be just more of the same prevaracation bollox from Guilfoyle. There is therefore still some chance of a miracle afterall, but if/when that life support machine DOES finally get switched off the reaction will be just the same, there will be no biting down on pillows and thinking of England from me.

a sort of selfenposed ban on your good self watching the greens,out of interest would you come back if a new lot took over in a couple of years?and if so what would you expect from them?

Blimey, difficult to decide whether this is good news or bad.

The most important thing surely has to be the survival of the football club.

Crewe at home anyone??

(Smiffy then made a very pertinent rebuttal of that notion suggesting the main players in the theft of PAFC f**ked right off)

Hopefully, thats the end of you on these pages. You can take up a season ticket with Crawley who you have taken to watching. Quick question though. How does the ownership of Crawley-- unknown rich sugar daddies paying massively over the FL rules regarding wages v turnover (and I am not even going into the alledged dodgy past of said owners or the tax evading manager) sit with your often preached self righteous bollox about honesty, decency yadda, yadda?

No such luck Marlin .

I'm sure it suits you to pedal a new PASOTI myth Marlin but do keep up, we've covered all this. I am a Plymouth Argyle supporter, a third generation supporter at that, i've stood with my forefathers at Home Park, i've invested a lifetime of emotion a lifetime of commitment, it matters to me therefore when the values all that was based on are so grievously trodden on as they have been over the last couple of years. I have invested nothing in Crawley, no emotion, no commitment so I don't really give a single carrotty stump about their foundations. They are a means to an end to watch a game of football.

It's a bit like you are saying 'you wouldn't want your wife to go on the game so why do you use the services of an escort now she's on life support'. A football supporter has needs, he hasn't lived a long and happy life with Charlotte the Harlot, he hasn't got a lifetime of shared memories and achievements with her, he's not fussed what the state of her finances are or what moral code she chooses to work under. He just wants to pay his money and do his thing.

So take your abandonment myth and shove in where the sun don't shine. It doesn't suit you to accept it so I don't for a second believe you'll even try but consciencious objectors hold the values, histories and traditions of Plymouth Argyle far tighter than any happy clappy Ridsdale funding sell-out apologist.

Quite often disagree with X Isle, but on this issue he is right.

It's clear that one or more of the M7 are behind the Heaney consortium, and that their identities are going to remain anonymous. Else, why the secrecy.

I shall remain a follower of results, but I'm not going be a flippin lemming with no brain, 'ee boy so as we got a club to support that' alreet by me in'em'. [Bad Language Removed by Site Admin] that sh1t

Well, the more I have thought about the statement released yesterday and the exact nature of yesterday's deadline, the more I am convinced that things are nothing like as simple as many would like to think. Graham Clark has often written about "twists and turns" along the process of Administration. I think it is entirely possible that there are more, and bigger, twists ahead.

Honestly Comie (as you asked nicely) I don't know. I never imagined for a second that I would become so disenfranchised from my club that THIS could ever happen so what the future holds?, we're off the known map.

I strongly feel that the divorce of club from Home Park and it's immediate re-marriage to a private property developer landlord is the signal of the beginning of the end. If anyone were to ever give me any credit they'd admit i've been 100% consistent with that from the moment the bidding proposals became known. It's the path down which there can be no retreat.

It's not a self imposed ban on watching the greens though, just contributing financially to being f**ked over. Away games (and free home tickets I guess?) are just as kosher as going to watch other teams, a means to an end to satisfy the football fans urge to watch football without funding the enemy - 'fairtrade' football if you will.

How long it goes on for is the unknown quantity. If it stayed in the hands of Ridsdale/Heaney then i'd keep the embers of our values going and maybe invest in the inevitable eventual AFC (style) Argyle that would follow when a larger minority came round to realising I was right all along. If it came back into the hands of a group or individual they'd have to be pretty darn squeeky clean and honourable for me to trust them with the embers i'd been sustaining for 'X' years. A fans co-operative would work for me, otherwise it'd be on it's merits at the time.

I've never made a stance that wasn't right though and i'm convinced on this one............while still clinging to the hope of a contingency plan victory from the jaws of defeat.

(PAFCintheplace - bless you, one sinner repenteth is worth 2,800 in the park )