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Re: Peter Jones for Chairman/James Brent's new board?

Posted: 16:16 27 Sep 2011
by Balham_Green
Great post by Tynan's jockstrap. Tynan's jock strap for CEO I say!

Re: Peter Jones for Chairman/James Brent's new board?

Posted: 17:53 27 Sep 2011
by Gary_Wills
MickyD wrote: First, he's a passionate Argyle fan; second, he's a former director; third, he's someone who (we're all assuming, at least) wants to play some part in the new regime; and fourth, he's entitled to his opinions just the same as everyone else. I, for one, am always very interested to hear what he has to say.


I'm 1 and 4, ta. 2 and 3 are merely circumstancial. But I'd counted myself out as not positioned on the doorstep.

When things are going well, journey times can seem short. But surely a key thing learnt from the last shambolic shower is that absent stakeholders are not what PAFC needs, certainly in the short term, it's folk with energy and know-how who are about the place frequently, more than merely of a matchday.

Re: Peter Jones for Chairman/James Brent's new board?

Posted: 19:30 27 Sep 2011
by grovehill
"If we do facilitate a rescue, our short-term aspiration really is to start paying our staff and to be putting in the appropriate corporate structure, but also integrate the club with our existing businesses, to market it well and to drive up short-term revenues."


As the above is a direct quote from the man himself, it seems that PAFC will be one of a number of businesses under the Akkeron umbrella.

People might be jumping the gun in assuming that whoever the new Board and Chairman are, they'll be operating totally independently of the parent company.

I would imagine there may well be a strong Akkeron presence on the PAFC board and in the major business roles.

Re: My Message for Mr. Brent

Posted: 19:37 27 Sep 2011
by Arch Stanton
greengenes wrote:
Bodmin Tew wrote:
Arch Stanton wrote:
Eve wrote: This is my first post, I don't know if I'll post again but I wanted to convey a message to Mr Brent and this is probably the only way I can do it as someone did say that he reads Pasoti.

Please Mr. Brent - when you choose your new board, chairman and CEO, please do not employ anyone connected with Argyle in the past.

There are all sorts of 'views' on who should be employed, some of them scare me, as you will lose fans so fast all this misery will have been for nothing, please choose a completely new board, chairman and CEO from people who have never held any positions of power at Argyle.


Mansfield Town a club that has had similiar financial problems as ourselves recently appointed a young female Chief Exec with strong business and innovative qualities from outside the football world and with no allegience to that club.

James Brent please take note
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:oops:

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/wor ... cle/69813/

:lol:



Oh Archie - what a boob . :lolno:


To be honest with you GG I was unaware of that story until Mr Webb discovered it today.
She would look nice in the Mike Bickle suite mind :lol:

Re: Peter Jones for Chairman/James Brent's new board?

Posted: 19:38 27 Sep 2011
by tonycholwell
grovehill wrote: "If we do facilitate a rescue, our short-term aspiration really is to start paying our staff and to be putting in the appropriate corporate structure, but also integrate the club with our existing businesses, to market it well and to drive up short-term revenues."


As the above is a direct quote from the man himself, it seems that PAFC will be one of a number of businesses under the Akkeron umbrella.

People might be jumping the gun in assuming that whoever the new Board and Chairman are, they'll be operating totally independently of the parent company.

I would imagine there may well be a strong Akkeron presence on the PAFC board and in the major business roles.


For the sake of balance, I askd this question on Saturday and the answer was recorded and available to anyone who wishes to listen.

In precis, Argyle will be a stand alone company but the staff conditions will be on a par with his other 2,000 staff in the Akkeron Group. You may be correct about an Akkeron presence on the Board, surprised if it didnt. but the initial impression given by that quote before the meeting has been dispelled. To be honest when I initiaally read it I saw Argyle becoming a tax losing vehicle.

Re: Peter Jones for Chairman/James Brent's new board?

Posted: 20:32 27 Sep 2011
by Cult Of Personality
graiser wrote:
tynans jockstrap wrote: I've observed this site for a couple of years now and only recently joined and although I admire some of the information that is made available, and the knowledge of some of the contributors, I just cannot believe the negativity and in-fighting that goes on amongst supporters of the same team!

God knows what James Brent thinks if he looks at some of the posts on here. A guy who has been open and communicated with fans, players and the media ever since his interest was made known. This guy has made it known that he is not a football man yet was prepared to step in and save the club, and yet is still regarded with suspicion by people on here. If James Brent paid the staff and players in full, brought in Sir Alex Ferguson as manager, completed the missing stand and gave a transfer budget of £5 million, and all he wanted in return was to open his own hamburger stand in the car park, there would still be people slating him for this.

To a casual observer, PASOTI comes across more like a radical political movement than fans of the same football team expressing views and sharing opinions and news on their football club.

I'm not a trust member and don't have 6 badges next to my name showing how "big" an Argyle fan I am, but I have watched Argyle for nearly 30 years and after my family, it is the most important thing in my life. If this makes me a lesser contibutor to this site than others then so be it, but surely this last week or so has been the most positive thing to have happened here in recent times and yet we still couldn't muster 6,000 Argyle fans for the game that was supposed to show our prospective buyer, and supporters of various other clubs who made the effort to turn up, how passionate we are about our club. Yes the atmosphere was great and much better than any home game for a couple of seasons, but a lot of that was down to the Brighton fans who orchestrated things in the Devonport End.

Stop the bitching and the pi**ing contests, and try to pull together and get some of the missing fans back. This helped spur the side on to win on Saturday and it's what is needed to ensure we stay in the League this season.

How anyone can be sniping at the motives behind the Trust's involvement is beyond me. So they were blantantly anti-Heaney from the outset. Thank God they were. It was only because of people like Chris Webb that the James Brent bid was re-ignited and I for one am eternally grateful that people like Chris gave up so much to make sure that the administrator's blinkers were removed, because I would hate to think were we would be today if Guilfoyle had carried on unopposed. The Greens Taverners have also played a massive part in making sure that staff and players received at least something when it must have been easier for them to have washed their hands with the whole sorry mess.

I don't know Chris Webb, and am not sure if he is looking for a place on the James Brent's board as a fans representative, but if it came down to a vote, I know who I would be backing. If anyone else has done more to keep us going recently, barring of course Peter Ridsdale :D , then they have kept their involvement pretty quiet.

Now if PASOTI members are right and this site is read by influential people, what do you think they make of it? I know several Argyle fans who don't bother with PASOTI because of the abuse and ridicule they are subjected to if they dare to express an opinion. This surely should not be the case on a supporters forum.

I expect to receive a similar response now, and be told how I don't know the true facts and don't know who was responsible for our demise, and how certain people have a hidden agenda and are only out to make personal gain blah blah blah. I'm an ordinary Argyle fan who just cannot beleive that at a time when unity is vital, there seems to be such a division in the ranks that can only be affecting attendances, morale etc.

If James Brent completes the takeover, we stay up this season and start the long rebuilding process, I couldn't care less if he builds a hotel next to the ground and makes a mint. Hell I couldn't care if he decides to rename Home Park as James Brent Towers. And I'm damned sure that whoever he decides to put on the board, it will be a decision made by a successful businessman and not a fat, balding 40 year old dreamer in an Argyle shirt at his keyboard.

Come on people, get behind James Brent, whoever he makes Chairman and the team![/

This post is the most sensible, even handed, realistic and well written full of common sense post i've read on PASOTI for many months, never a truer word spoken, but i notice you haven't been a member for long, so no opportunity yet to catch the PASOTI lurgy ]



Argee with alot of what has been said here

I personally dont think a fan should be on the board myself but Chris Webb has done a good job

Re: Peter Jones for Chairman/James Brent's new board?

Posted: 21:55 27 Sep 2011
by Andy_Lannie
I think that many of us forget the history of this wonderful club. I say wonderful because Heany, the Riddler (almost) and Reid have gone. I can breathe again.

Not so many years ago a couple of likely lads saved us from Dan. PS and PJ were two of them, they put up some money along with a big wad from NW. they took us from the depths to the CCC and then it went tits up. The board spilt over the direction of the club. Some wanted more investment and as they didn't have the money themselves the cracks appeared. Those that wanted to invest in the team (read the football) left.

A few years later they came back with an offer, an offer backed up by the money. The board at that time weren't interested because they thought the club was worth more than it was. Now we are back where we started, in fact we are in a worse position.

I've never met PJ, although he has ties with Denmark, but in my book he could be the right man to kick start our rise again. His contacts are many and he knows supporters with money and the will to invest under the right circumstances. In fact the 'consortium' had more financial backing than all of those that have had their fingers in the pie at any time in our past.

I know that there are some that want a clean sweep, they don't like people that leave a sinking ship. Ask yourself this question: what would you have done under the same circumstances? Principles and ones own morales weigh heavily, do I blame PJ for leaving the board - No. Would I have done the same - yes.

I welcome the new board

Re: Peter Jones for Chairman/James Brent's new board?

Posted: 08:29 28 Sep 2011
by Ernie
Andy_Lannie wrote: I think that many of us forget the history of this wonderful club. I say wonderful because Heany, the Riddler (almost) and Reid have gone. I can breathe again.

Not so many years ago a couple of likely lads saved us from Dan. PS and PJ were two of them, they put up some money along with a big wad from NW. they took us from the depths to the CCC and then it went tits up. The board spilt over the direction of the club. Some wanted more investment and as they didn't have the money themselves the cracks appeared. Those that wanted to invest in the team (read the football) left.

A few years later they came back with an offer, an offer backed up by the money. The board at that time weren't interested because they thought the club was worth more than it was. Now we are back where we started, in fact we are in a worse position.

I've never met PJ, although he has ties with Denmark, but in my book he could be the right man to kick start our rise again. His contacts are many and he knows supporters with money and the will to invest under the right circumstances. In fact the 'consortium' had more financial backing than all of those that have had their fingers in the pie at any time in our past.

I know that there are some that want a clean sweep, they don't like people that leave a sinking ship. Ask yourself this question: what would you have done under the same circumstances? Principles and ones own morales weigh heavily, do I blame PJ for leaving the board - No. Would I have done the same - yes.

I welcome the new board



Yes indeed Andy. The single, most fundamental lesson to be learnt from this latest in a long line of missed opportunities at Home Park, is that the club will rise again and that it is 'what happens next' that is vital.
Both Brent and Jones seem to understand what will be required and that helps me to sleep more easily.
I simply can't bear the thought of seeing history repeat itself yet again.