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Re: Peter Ridsdale to be new Chairman of Football Operations

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by Tony Pastyman
» 07:36 29 Oct 2011


I know that Ridsdale carries questionable baggage from the past BUTLets not forget if the Riddler hadnt come in when he did, we may not of had this opportunity to be having this debate, we could well have been sunk without trace.
There is no doubt that Brent knows what he is doing, he also knows that in the interim he feels that the Riddler with his contacts can firefight our way out of the basement to a period of stability.
History will prove who was right.

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by bandwagon
» 07:48 29 Oct 2011


X Isle wrote: After the celebration comes the mother of all hangovers :thumbdown:.

I guess having touted his ass round football since James Brent came back and found no takers, he finds himself the beggar with one choice.

One of the beats of my drum this summer has always been unity. On the one hand therefore you could say it's time to bury the hatchet and move forwards, forget old reservations and skip hand in hand towards a greater Argyle future. On the other hand though it's Peter fekkin Ridsdale FFS :doh:.

He's a piece of work though ain't he?, i'm sure others can identify with this thought pattern. Now i'm generally a pretty black and white sort of chap but f*ck me I've changed my views on him as often as I changed my pants in this process, admittedly that doesn't happen often but you get the point :whistle:.

First off I was hostile (first I was afraid, I was petrified). Then I figured the NWO were so absent that ANY hand on the tiller was better than drfiting aimlessly. Then I was hostile again when he seemed to be manufacturing a destiny for his own ends. Then JB mooted the idea of having him as a salaried employee, that made some sense utilising his undoubted experience without the risk of his ideas outstripping his own coffers. Then JB was sidelined by Ridsdales appointed administrator, the "we don't know who he is" lie was exposed and it seemed the meek were not going to inherit the earth afterall, a couple of sh1ts were. Then what was obvious to even the distant observers became apparent to those closest to Heaney and JB came back in from the cold, again (consistent) courting Ridsdale in the employee role. Then Ridsdale said he wasn't staying "good" I thought, "f*ck off then, a clear line could do with being drawn"................now he's back as a football operations chairman.

So what to do now?. Like it?, no, he's a divisive character when we most need unity. Lump it?, guess i'll have to. We need to push forwards as one, we're just going to have to accept uncomfortable bedfellows and deal with them with our elbows. He IS, and i've always accepted this, a very canny man to have running your football club. I doubt there is anyone else who knows the dark arts of thriving and surviving disaster more clearly............come a nuclear holocaust i'd wager he'll survive and lead the other c0ckroaches to a new dawn.

For me he lacks ALL the other values I strove for at my club this summer, he lacks integrity, honesty, and transparency (see the aforementioned and publicly exposed Heaney lie) but for the sake of the remaining value, UNITY, i'll lump him 'til he gets bored with lower league/non-league football, rips off his suit to expose his Superman costume and flies off on another rescue mission.


100% as per normal - like the cockroaches analogy!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

He'll never have my backing either!!
Back and all angelic!! Hahahahahah!!

Re: Peter Ridsdale to be new Chairman of Football Operations

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by cheshiregreen
» 08:45 29 Oct 2011
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I would regard myself as pretty much anti-Ridsdale. I believe he puts his own self interest first and that was evident during the failed BIL bid.

That said, in the Brent set-up, he will not have total control as was the danger under Heaney. He has vast knowledge of football and a large range of contacts. The appointment of Martin Baker is very positive in my view, whether the Riddler will be able to work under the financial restraints that are likely to be imposed on him, we will have to wait and see.

I'm prepared to see how things unfold, but the man needs to be watched closely and held to account.

Re: Peter Ridsdale to be new Chairman of Football Operations

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by Shane Harris
» 08:47 29 Oct 2011


bandwagon wrote:
Shane Harris wrote: It won't last.


Thank god for that Shane - hoping it's a case of the old Chinese proverbs "Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer" (a quotation attributed to Sun-tzu, a Chinese general and military strategist from 400 BC). :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

Are you going today?


Unfortunately not Andy, had daughters 21st party last night, me and the lads doubled it up as an Argyle celebration too :D

Argyle player for me today.

Have a great day mate.
The 2011-2012 season was the end for me.
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Re: Peter Ridsdale to be new Chairman of Football Operations

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by Jones the Green
» 09:12 29 Oct 2011


X Isle wrote: After the celebration comes the mother of all hangovers :thumbdown:.

I guess having touted his ass round football since James Brent came back and found no takers, he finds himself the beggar with one choice.

One of the beats of my drum this summer has always been unity. On the one hand therefore you could say it's time to bury the hatchet and move forwards, forget old reservations and skip hand in hand towards a greater Argyle future. On the other hand though it's Peter fekkin Ridsdale FFS :doh:.

He's a piece of work though ain't he?, i'm sure others can identify with this thought pattern. Now i'm generally a pretty black and white sort of chap but f*ck me I've changed my views on him as often as I changed my pants in this process, admittedly that doesn't happen often but you get the point :whistle:.

First off I was hostile (first I was afraid, I was petrified). Then I figured the NWO were so absent that ANY hand on the tiller was better than drfiting aimlessly. Then I was hostile again when he seemed to be manufacturing a destiny for his own ends. Then JB mooted the idea of having him as a salaried employee, that made some sense utilising his undoubted experience without the risk of his ideas outstripping his own coffers. Then JB was sidelined by Ridsdales appointed administrator, the "we don't know who he is" lie was exposed and it seemed the meek were not going to inherit the earth afterall, a couple of sh1ts were. Then what was obvious to even the distant observers became apparent to those closest to Heaney and JB came back in from the cold, again (consistent) courting Ridsdale in the employee role. Then Ridsdale said he wasn't staying "good" I thought, "f*ck off then, a clear line could do with being drawn"................now he's back as a football operations chairman.

So what to do now?. Like it?, no, he's a divisive character when we most need unity. Lump it?, guess i'll have to. We need to push forwards as one, we're just going to have to accept uncomfortable bedfellows and deal with them with our elbows. He IS, and i've always accepted this, a very canny man to have running your football club. I doubt there is anyone else who knows the dark arts of thriving and surviving disaster more clearly............come a nuclear holocaust i'd wager he'll survive and lead the other c0ckroaches to a new dawn.

For me he lacks ALL the other values I strove for at my club this summer, he lacks integrity, honesty, and transparency (see the aforementioned and publicly exposed Heaney lie) but for the sake of the remaining value, UNITY, i'll lump him 'til he gets bored with lower league/non-league football, rips off his suit to expose his Superman costume and flies off on another rescue mission.


Fair enough. I have no issue with anyone who doesn't like Ridsdale, and obviously I can understand why they have concerns. As I have already stated, I am not exactly a Ridsdale fan myself. I do still think it may emerge that he has played a much bigger part in this club's survival than most are prepared to give him credit for, (even if his chief motivation was self-interest) but that is something that the fullness of time and the writing of the history might establish one way or the other.

But when someone comes on Pasoti so consumed with hatred for Ridsdale that they state they would rather Argyle were liquidated than he was allowed to retain a role in the club, well, sorry but that's when I see red!!! :furious: :furious: :furious:

What a total absence of perspective and proportion! When you hate an individual more than you love the club, well. I'd say you'd got some serious problems! :roll:
"Its not about the long ball, or the short ball. it's about the right ball." Bob Paisley

Re: Peter Ridsdale to be new Chairman of Football Operations

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by bandwagon
» 09:29 29 Oct 2011


Jones the Green wrote:
X Isle wrote: After the celebration comes the mother of all hangovers :thumbdown:.

I guess having touted his ass round football since James Brent came back and found no takers, he finds himself the beggar with one choice.

One of the beats of my drum this summer has always been unity. On the one hand therefore you could say it's time to bury the hatchet and move forwards, forget old reservations and skip hand in hand towards a greater Argyle future. On the other hand though it's Peter fekkin Ridsdale FFS :doh:.

He's a piece of work though ain't he?, i'm sure others can identify with this thought pattern. Now i'm generally a pretty black and white sort of chap but f*ck me I've changed my views on him as often as I changed my pants in this process, admittedly that doesn't happen often but you get the point :whistle:.

First off I was hostile (first I was afraid, I was petrified). Then I figured the NWO were so absent that ANY hand on the tiller was better than drfiting aimlessly. Then I was hostile again when he seemed to be manufacturing a destiny for his own ends. Then JB mooted the idea of having him as a salaried employee, that made some sense utilising his undoubted experience without the risk of his ideas outstripping his own coffers. Then JB was sidelined by Ridsdales appointed administrator, the "we don't know who he is" lie was exposed and it seemed the meek were not going to inherit the earth afterall, a couple of sh1ts were. Then what was obvious to even the distant observers became apparent to those closest to Heaney and JB came back in from the cold, again (consistent) courting Ridsdale in the employee role. Then Ridsdale said he wasn't staying "good" I thought, "f*ck off then, a clear line could do with being drawn"................now he's back as a football operations chairman.

So what to do now?. Like it?, no, he's a divisive character when we most need unity. Lump it?, guess i'll have to. We need to push forwards as one, we're just going to have to accept uncomfortable bedfellows and deal with them with our elbows. He IS, and i've always accepted this, a very canny man to have running your football club. I doubt there is anyone else who knows the dark arts of thriving and surviving disaster more clearly............come a nuclear holocaust i'd wager he'll survive and lead the other c0ckroaches to a new dawn.

For me he lacks ALL the other values I strove for at my club this summer, he lacks integrity, honesty, and transparency (see the aforementioned and publicly exposed Heaney lie) but for the sake of the remaining value, UNITY, i'll lump him 'til he gets bored with lower league/non-league football, rips off his suit to expose his Superman costume and flies off on another rescue mission.


Fair enough. I have no issue with anyone who doesn't like Ridsdale, and obviously I can understand why they have concerns. As I have already stated, I am not exactly a Ridsdale fan myself. I do still think it may emerge that he has played a much bigger part in this club's survival than most are prepared to give him credit for, (even if his chief motivation was self-interest) but that is something that the fullness of time and the writing of the history might establish one way or the other.

But when someone comes on Pasoti so consumed with hatred for Ridsdale that they state they would rather Argyle were liquidated than he was allowed to retain a role in the club, well, sorry but that's when I see red!!! :furious: :furious: :furious:

What a total absence of perspective and proportion! When you hate an individual more than you love the club, well. I'd say you'd got some serious problems! :roll:


Ridsdale is Marmite - you either luvs him or ya don't!!
Back and all angelic!! Hahahahahah!!

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by dollygray78
» 09:55 29 Oct 2011


I for one think risdale and Brent team will be a good one, if it was not for
Risdale then we would not exist, the man has a good list of contacts
In the football world and with Brent holding the Purse strings can
Only be good for the future of the team :nworthy:
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Re: Ridsdale

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by bandwagon
» 10:04 29 Oct 2011


dollygray78 wrote: I for one think Ridsdale and Brent team will be a good one, if it was not for
Ridsdale then we would not exist, the man has a good list of contacts
In the football world and with Brent holding the Purse strings can
Only be good for the future of the team :nworthy:


Jeeze, yeah - what a hero!! :doh: :doh: :doh:
Back and all angelic!! Hahahahahah!!

Re: Peter Ridsdale to be new Chairman of Football Operations

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by Graham Evans
» 10:06 29 Oct 2011
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If Ridsdale has all these contacts in the game why has he never used them for the benefit of Plymouth Argyle?

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by Trudge
» 10:07 29 Oct 2011


Why has Risdale agreed to stay on? Surely we can't be paying him the sort of money that he thinks he deserves.

Re: Peter Ridsdale to be new Chairman of Football Operations

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by Jones the Green
» 10:12 29 Oct 2011


bandwagon wrote:
Jones the Green wrote:
X Isle wrote: After the celebration comes the mother of all hangovers :thumbdown:.

I guess having touted his ass round football since James Brent came back and found no takers, he finds himself the beggar with one choice.

One of the beats of my drum this summer has always been unity. On the one hand therefore you could say it's time to bury the hatchet and move forwards, forget old reservations and skip hand in hand towards a greater Argyle future. On the other hand though it's Peter fekkin Ridsdale FFS :doh:.

He's a piece of work though ain't he?, i'm sure others can identify with this thought pattern. Now i'm generally a pretty black and white sort of chap but f*ck me I've changed my views on him as often as I changed my pants in this process, admittedly that doesn't happen often but you get the point :whistle:.

First off I was hostile (first I was afraid, I was petrified). Then I figured the NWO were so absent that ANY hand on the tiller was better than drfiting aimlessly. Then I was hostile again when he seemed to be manufacturing a destiny for his own ends. Then JB mooted the idea of having him as a salaried employee, that made some sense utilising his undoubted experience without the risk of his ideas outstripping his own coffers. Then JB was sidelined by Ridsdales appointed administrator, the "we don't know who he is" lie was exposed and it seemed the meek were not going to inherit the earth afterall, a couple of sh1ts were. Then what was obvious to even the distant observers became apparent to those closest to Heaney and JB came back in from the cold, again (consistent) courting Ridsdale in the employee role. Then Ridsdale said he wasn't staying "good" I thought, "f*ck off then, a clear line could do with being drawn"................now he's back as a football operations chairman.

So what to do now?. Like it?, no, he's a divisive character when we most need unity. Lump it?, guess i'll have to. We need to push forwards as one, we're just going to have to accept uncomfortable bedfellows and deal with them with our elbows. He IS, and i've always accepted this, a very canny man to have running your football club. I doubt there is anyone else who knows the dark arts of thriving and surviving disaster more clearly............come a nuclear holocaust i'd wager he'll survive and lead the other c0ckroaches to a new dawn.

For me he lacks ALL the other values I strove for at my club this summer, he lacks integrity, honesty, and transparency (see the aforementioned and publicly exposed Heaney lie) but for the sake of the remaining value, UNITY, i'll lump him 'til he gets bored with lower league/non-league football, rips off his suit to expose his Superman costume and flies off on another rescue mission.


Fair enough. I have no issue with anyone who doesn't like Ridsdale, and obviously I can understand why they have concerns. As I have already stated, I am not exactly a Ridsdale fan myself. I do still think it may emerge that he has played a much bigger part in this club's survival than most are prepared to give him credit for, (even if his chief motivation was self-interest) but that is something that the fullness of time and the writing of the history might establish one way or the other.

But when someone comes on Pasoti so consumed with hatred for Ridsdale that they state they would rather Argyle were liquidated than he was allowed to retain a role in the club, well, sorry but that's when I see red!!! :furious: :furious: :furious:

What a total absence of perspective and proportion! When you hate an individual more than you love the club, well. I'd say you'd got some serious problems! :roll:


Ridsdale is Marmite - you either luvs him or ya don't!!


Yes, a divisive character, as X Isle states. No question that's true! :lol: :lol: :lol:

X Isle is also right when he says now is the time for Unity and stepping forward. I think James Brent deserves our respect and our trust. He is the one who has made this appointment and for that reason (after what he has done for this club) I think we should be prepared to accept the decision and give it a fair trial before protesting.

Considering that Ridsdale is now (as I understand it) an employee as opposed to a wheeler-dealer with an eye on the ownership for himself , I accept the view already stated by several posters that he has skills and contacts that may be very, very useful to Argyle in their current position.... especially as there may now finally be some money being freed up in the coming weeks....
"Its not about the long ball, or the short ball. it's about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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by bandwagon
» 10:20 29 Oct 2011


Jones the Green wrote:
bandwagon wrote:
Jones the Green wrote:
X Isle wrote: After the celebration comes the mother of all hangovers :thumbdown:.

I guess having touted his ass round football since James Brent came back and found no takers, he finds himself the beggar with one choice.

One of the beats of my drum this summer has always been unity. On the one hand therefore you could say it's time to bury the hatchet and move forwards, forget old reservations and skip hand in hand towards a greater Argyle future. On the other hand though it's Peter fekkin Ridsdale FFS :doh:.

He's a piece of work though ain't he?, i'm sure others can identify with this thought pattern. Now i'm generally a pretty black and white sort of chap but f*ck me I've changed my views on him as often as I changed my pants in this process, admittedly that doesn't happen often but you get the point :whistle:.

First off I was hostile (first I was afraid, I was petrified). Then I figured the NWO were so absent that ANY hand on the tiller was better than drfiting aimlessly. Then I was hostile again when he seemed to be manufacturing a destiny for his own ends. Then JB mooted the idea of having him as a salaried employee, that made some sense utilising his undoubted experience without the risk of his ideas outstripping his own coffers. Then JB was sidelined by Ridsdales appointed administrator, the "we don't know who he is" lie was exposed and it seemed the meek were not going to inherit the earth afterall, a couple of sh1ts were. Then what was obvious to even the distant observers became apparent to those closest to Heaney and JB came back in from the cold, again (consistent) courting Ridsdale in the employee role. Then Ridsdale said he wasn't staying "good" I thought, "f*ck off then, a clear line could do with being drawn"................now he's back as a football operations chairman.

So what to do now?. Like it?, no, he's a divisive character when we most need unity. Lump it?, guess i'll have to. We need to push forwards as one, we're just going to have to accept uncomfortable bedfellows and deal with them with our elbows. He IS, and i've always accepted this, a very canny man to have running your football club. I doubt there is anyone else who knows the dark arts of thriving and surviving disaster more clearly............come a nuclear holocaust i'd wager he'll survive and lead the other c0ckroaches to a new dawn.

For me he lacks ALL the other values I strove for at my club this summer, he lacks integrity, honesty, and transparency (see the aforementioned and publicly exposed Heaney lie) but for the sake of the remaining value, UNITY, i'll lump him 'til he gets bored with lower league/non-league football, rips off his suit to expose his Superman costume and flies off on another rescue mission.


Fair enough. I have no issue with anyone who doesn't like Ridsdale, and obviously I can understand why they have concerns. As I have already stated, I am not exactly a Ridsdale fan myself. I do still think it may emerge that he has played a much bigger part in this club's survival than most are prepared to give him credit for, (even if his chief motivation was self-interest) but that is something that the fullness of time and the writing of the history might establish one way or the other.

But when someone comes on Pasoti so consumed with hatred for Ridsdale that they state they would rather Argyle were liquidated than he was allowed to retain a role in the club, well, sorry but that's when I see red!!! :furious: :furious: :furious:

What a total absence of perspective and proportion! When you hate an individual more than you love the club, well. I'd say you'd got some serious problems! :roll:


Ridsdale is Marmite - you either luvs him or ya don't!!


Yes, a divisive character, as X Isle states. No question that's true! :lol: :lol: :lol:

X Isle is also right when he says now is the time for Unity and stepping forward. I think James Brent deserves our respect and our trust. He is the one who has made this appointment and for that reason (after what he has done for this club) I think we should be prepared to accept the decision and give it a fair trial before protesting.

Considering that Ridsdale is now (as I understand it) an employee as opposed to a wheeler-dealer with an eye on the ownership for himself , I accept the view already stated by several posters that he has skills and contacts that may be very, very useful to Argyle in their current position.... especially as there may now finally be some money being freed up in the coming weeks....



Time will tell Jonesy - anyway, got to step away from the keyboard and get ready to pick up the youngest and tootle on up to Chelts!! :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave:
Back and all angelic!! Hahahahahah!!

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» 10:23 29 Oct 2011


Shane Harris wrote:
bandwagon wrote:
Shane Harris wrote: It won't last.


Thank god for that Shane - hoping it's a case of the old Chinese proverbs "Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer" (a quotation attributed to Sun-tzu, a Chinese general and military strategist from 400 BC). :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

Are you going today?


Unfortunately not Andy, had daughters 21st party last night, me and the lads doubled it up as an Argyle celebration too :D

Argyle player for me today.

Have a great day mate.


Strange, was my youngest Shauns 21st wednesday - picking him up from work at 12 at motoring up!! :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave:
Back and all angelic!! Hahahahahah!!
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