Hereford are down, they're not going to win against Torquay and Crawley.

And I can't see Macclesfield beating Bradford, who are decent at home and Southend, draws maybe and a win against Burton, but that won't be enough.

Bradford's result could be more important than Argyle's result next week.

Come on Marcel !!

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Pos    Team            P    GD    Pts     Max   Highest  lowest

1    Swindon          42    41    89      101     1         4  guaranteed playoff position
2    Shrewsbury       42    25    81       93     1         6  guaranteed playoff position
3    Torquay          43    16    80       89     1         7  guaranteed playoff position


4    Crawley          42    22    77       89     1         7  guaranteed playoff position
5    Southend         43    22    74       83     2        10 can not be relegated
6    Cheltenham       43    14    71       80     3        11 can not be relegated
7    Oxford Utd       43    16    67       76     5        12 can not be relegated


8    Crewe            43     7    67       76     5        12 can not be relegated
9    Gillingham       43    13    63       75     5        15 can not be relegated
10    Rotherham       43     3    62       71     6        16 can not be relegated
11    Aldershot       42    -3    58       70     7        17 can not be relegated
12    Accrington      43    -7    56       65     9        18 can not be relegated/can not be promoted
13    Morecambe       43     9    55       64     9        20 can not be relegated/can not be promoted
14    Bristol Rovers  43    -9    54       63     9        20 can not be relegated/can not be promoted
15    Port Vale       42    10    53       65     9        21 can not be relegated * 10 points deducted/can not be promoted
16    Burton Albion   43   -24    51       60    11        21 can not be promoted/can not be relegated
17    Wimbledon       43   -16    48       57    12        20 can not be promoted/can not be relegated
18    Bradford        43    -4    46       55    13        24 can not be promoted
19    Dag & Red       43   -25    46       55    13        24 can not be promoted
20    Northampton     42   -21    45       57    12        24 can not be promoted
21    Plymouth        43   -16    44       53    15        24 can not be promoted
22    Barnet          43   -29    40       49    17        24 can not be promoted

23    Macclesfield    43   -20    37       46    18        24 can not be promoted
23    Hereford        43   -24    37       46    18        24 can not be promoted

I'm worried about Macclesfield- they have a similar goal difference to us.

All they need to do is get a win and a draw out of their next 2 games and it might all come down to the last game of the season. They have fairly easy fixtures. And it's going to be hard for Argyle to win again looking at our run-in.

I know Macclesfield have Southend at home on the last day, but Southend might be guaranteed a play-off place by then and deliberately play a weakened team.

If we lose next week and Macclesfield win, it's not going to be a very comfortable situation.

WE ARE NOT YET SAFE.

We're not safe yet but I'll try to throw you a crumb of comfort. Macclesfield haven't won a single game since December 31st 2012 - that's a run of 22 games without a win. To pass Argyle they need to win all three of their remaining games or perhaps win two and draw the other. Plus, don't rule Barnet out of things as far as going down is concerned. But you are correct, it's not over yet.

I'm worried about Macclesfield- they have a similar goal difference to us.

All they need to do is get a win and a draw out of their next 2 games and it might all come down to the last game of the season. They have fairly easy fixtures. And it's going to be hard for Argyle to win again looking at our run-in.

I know Macclesfield have Southend at home on the last day, but Southend might be guaranteed a play-off place by then and deliberately play a weakened team.

If we lose next week and Macclesfield win, it's not going to be a very comfortable situation.

WE ARE NOT YET SAFE.

We're not safe yet but I'll try to throw you a crumb of comfort. Macclesfield haven't won a single game since December 31st 2012 - that's a run of 22 games without a win. To pass Argyle they need to win all three of their remaining games or perhaps win two and draw the other. Plus, don't rule Barnet out of things as far as going down is concerned. But you are correct, it's not over yet.

Bloody hell Doc, who won the Euro's and how did the Olympics go??

I'm worried about Macclesfield- they have a similar goal difference to us.

All they need to do is get a win and a draw out of their next 2 games and it might all come down to the last game of the season. They have fairly easy fixtures. And it's going to be hard for Argyle to win again looking at our run-in.

I know Macclesfield have Southend at home on the last day, but Southend might be guaranteed a play-off place by then and deliberately play a weakened team.

If we lose next week and Macclesfield win, it's not going to be a very comfortable situation.

WE ARE NOT YET SAFE.

We're not safe yet but I'll try to throw you a crumb of comfort. Macclesfield haven't won a single game since December 31st 2012 - that's a run of 22 games without a win. To pass Argyle they need to win all three of their remaining games or perhaps win two and draw the other. Plus, don't rule Barnet out of things as far as going down is concerned. But you are correct, it's not over yet.

Bloody hell Doc, who won the Euro's and how did the Olympics go??

so the world didnt end either?

Putting it simply, three points from our last three games and we are safe.

All nice and neat now with no games in hand anywhere. Notice the team with the best combination of 10 game form and goal difference in the middle of that bunch...

######################################################################Bradford [-4, 10]
######################################################################Dag and Red [-25, 15]
######################################################################Northampton [-23, 14]
######################################################################Plymouth Argyle [-16, 15]
######################################################################Barnet [-29, 6]

######################################################################Macclesfield [-20, 5]
######################################################################Hereford [-24, 9]

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Pos    Team            P    GD    Pts     Max   Highest  lowest

1    Swindon          43    40    89       98     1         4  guaranteed playoff position
2    Shrewsbury       43    26    84       93     1         5  guaranteed playoff position
3    Crawley          43    24    80       89     1         6  guaranteed playoff position


4    Torquay          43    16    80       89     1         6  guaranteed playoff position
5    Southend         44    25    77       83     3         7  guaranteed playoff position
6    Cheltenham       43    14    71       80     3        11 can not be relegated
7    Oxford Utd       43    16    67       76     5        12 can not be relegated


8    Crewe            43     7    67       76     5        12 can not be relegated
9    Gillingham       43    13    63       75     5        15 can not be relegated
10    Rotherham       43     3    62       71     6        16 can not be relegated
11    Aldershot       43    -2    58       67     7        17 can not be relegated
12    Accrington      43    -7    56       65     9        18 can not be relegated/can not be promoted
13    Morecambe       43     9    55       64     9        20 can not be relegated/can not be promoted
14    Bristol Rovers  43    -9    54       63     9        20 can not be relegated/can not be promoted
15    Port Vale       43     9    53       62    10        21 can not be relegated * 10 points deducted/can not be promoted
16    Burton Albion   43   -24    51       60    11        21 can not be promoted/can not be relegated
17    Wimbledon       43   -16    48       57    12        20 can not be promoted/can not be relegated
18    Bradford        43    -4    46       55    13        24 can not be promoted
19    Dag & Red       43   -25    46       55    13        24 can not be promoted
20    Northampton     43   -23    45       54    14        24 can not be promoted
21    Plymouth        43   -16    44       53    15        24 can not be promoted
22    Barnet          44   -32    40       46    18        24 can not be promoted

23    Macclesfield    43   -20    37       46    18        24 can not be promoted
23    Hereford        43   -24    37       46    18        24 can not be promoted

All nice and neat now with no games in hand anywhere. Notice the team with the best combination of 10 game form and goal difference in the middle of that bunch...

######################################################################Bradford [-4, 10]
######################################################################Dag and Red [-25, 15]
######################################################################Northampton [-23, 14]
######################################################################Plymouth Argyle [-16, 15]
######################################################################Barnet [-29, 6]

######################################################################Macclesfield [-20, 5]
######################################################################Hereford [-24, 9]

Which goes to show just how much the results of the first 10 games of the season, has had an effect on where we sit now......

COYG

Which goes to show just how much the results of the first 10 games of the season, has had an effect on where we sit now......

First ten games and well beyond that I reckon. It's interesting to think of Argyle's performance level this season in stages. Something like this:

Stage 1 was when we were utterly struggling and losing pretty much every game with a cobbled together inexperienced side (with Peter Reid at the helm and before coming out of administration).
Stage 2 was when we made a bit of a fresh start and had some improvement of the squad but still conceded far too many goals and couldn't find any kind of consistency (early days of Carl Fletcher's management).
Stage 3 was when the experienced players came in (Purse, Wotton, Chadwick) and things picked up a bit but there was still no consistency and it was still a real struggle.
Stage 4 was when we had a settled side with new signings having had a chance to settle and the defence became awesomely good really.

This season there is no time for Stage 5 and, in any case, it almost certainly relies on a couple of new signings being brought in, but it would be when some attacking guile and (perhaps mostly) confidence is added to the now excellent defence and most of the tight games swing positively in our favour (tight/unlucky draws become comfortable wins). When that happens we are promotion candidates.

[Argylegames]

With 15 points from the first 10 games we would be 11th.

I deliberately haven't changed my signature - despite it being wrong!

i think the main reason we are not conceding goals is that the whole team formation is set up to defend. I'm not saying our defenders have not played well, but sticking 10 men behind the ball helps a great deal.

Its good tactics given our limited squad and predicament at the bottom of the table. But to win the league a team would need to be more adventurous going forward and have some flair players.