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Unelected Bureaucrats

Posted: 09:55 22 Jun 2016
by pilgrimage
So we are governed by the EU's unelected bureaucrats. Not that we are basically governed by the civil servants.

Re: Unelected Bureaucrats

Posted: 14:19 22 Jun 2016
by Somerset_Pilgrim
Aren't they selected by the European Council which has one representative from each head of government from each member state? In our case that's David Cameron who is elected. Although he was only elected in on a 37% vote to be fair.

Re: Unelected Bureaucrats

Posted: 15:45 22 Jun 2016
by pilgrimage
But, when it comes down to it it is the civil servants who have power in most countries especially ours.

Re: Unelected Bureaucrats

Posted: 15:59 22 Jun 2016
by Greenrod
The unelected EU Commissioners decide laws and legislation, which they put to the European Parliament - invariably they vote in favour, then it goes back to the same unelected Commissioners to implement.

Re: Unelected Bureaucrats

Posted: 09:31 24 Jun 2016
by Devonportender
With the PM stepping down we'll go from being governed by the EU's unelected bureaucrats to being governed by an unelected PM. oh the irony!

Re: Unelected Bureaucrats

Posted: 09:33 24 Jun 2016
by Quinny
Er, no - the Prime Minister is an elected member of Parliament just like every other MP.

Re: Unelected Bureaucrats

Posted: 09:35 24 Jun 2016
by Keepitgreen
And we have history, like when Brown took over from Blair in 2007.

Re: Unelected Bureaucrats

Posted: 09:37 24 Jun 2016
by Quinny
And Major when he took over from Thatcher.

Re: Unelected Bureaucrats

Posted: 09:52 24 Jun 2016
by Devonportender
Quinny wrote: Er, no - the Prime Minister is an elected member of Parliament just like every other MP.


But the next PM after Cameron won't be elected by the people, It was a just flippant remark :greensmile:

Re: Unelected Bureaucrats

Posted: 10:06 24 Jun 2016
by Quinny
Pfft - you know full well we don't vote for a PM :greensmile:

Re: Unelected Bureaucrats

Posted: 10:13 24 Jun 2016
by crownhillpilgrim
And Jean-Claude Juncker has resigned... no, sorry, flip all chance of that

Re: Unelected Bureaucrats

Posted: 19:38 24 Jun 2016
by Tamar Raider
Greenrod wrote: The unelected EU Commissioners decide laws and legislation, which they put to the European Parliament - invariably they vote in favour, then it goes back to the same unelected Commissioners to implement.



Slightly off the mark there, a elected head of state proposes a new law to the EU Commissioners who then draw it up, then its put to all 28 (well 27 now) leader to vote on, if all agree the commission then present it to the European Parliaments 751 MEP's (again that needs to change now), to be voted on, if the majority agree then it becomes law.