Josh Pope wrote:Ave_IT wrote:jerryatricjanner wrote: You know something Andy, I personally find the vast majority of hate filled rhetoric in political discussions tends to come very much so from those with left wing views. That is from someone who is very much middle of the road and sits on neither side of the fence.
Genuine question JJ who are you thinking of? From the right we have Trump, Farrage & other UKIP cronies, Le Pen, 'celebs' like Katy Hopkins, The Daily Mail, The Sun & other tabloids and a whole host of American new-Cons......all of whom regularly spout varying shades of bigoted and downright racist bilge that occupy acres of print and airtime. From the left .... I can only think of George Galloway and that's about it unless you include some of the borderline anti-Semitic stuff that Ken Livingstone and a few other lower profile Corbynites have come out with recently. I've no doubt there are plenty of others but they don't get anything like the publicity. So I'm intrigued by this vast majority you mention?
Quite, Ave. But then it's little more than gibberish from someone right-wing who wants to pretend they're some sort of centrist.
If you are referring to me being right wing Josh then you are purely guessing and completely wrong. I have on several occasions on here commented against things said by Frank Harper myself. I wasn't thinking or referring to any personalities as trotted out by Avevit. I was purely passing an opinion based on reading a lot of political discussion on various internet forums and I find most of the hateful or aggressive comments come from those of a strong leftcwing leaning. Just my opinion if you don't mind. I have never been entrenched in my views politically and vote at each election on who I genuinely think is the better choice after reading and listening to the various debates and manifestos. I recently voted to stay in the EU so hardly a raving right winger. Currently I think Corbyn has no leadership qualities whatsoever, is extremely weak and would be a complete disaster as a prime minister or leader of our country. It doesn't make me right wing either because I think the current Labour leader will prove to be an electoral disaster for his party which in my opinion has lurched too far to the left to be electable by the average man or woman in the street. I hate bigotry and racism as it happens but that doesn't have to make me a left wing looney or anarchist any more than it makes me a right wing extremist by finding a lot of rhetoric from more extreme left wingers hate filled. I have never been entrenched one way or the other and will judge each party or politician on their merits at any given time. And while we are at it I was horrified that Trump is to be the leader of the Western world, but think Clinton was a shocking alternative as well. Farage I find a total buffoon full of hot air but he does amuse me sometimes and to give him credit he is a gifted orator as from the other side of the political divide was Michael Foot, another who was pretty unelectable otherwise. I am quite concerned about what lies ahead in Europe as the failure of successive governments and politicians to listen to the concerns of the ordinary, generally middle ground voter has led to more political division and especially the upsurge of more extreme right wing parties in many countries which will be seen soon at the polls in Holland and France though hopefully not sufficiently so to see Le Pen come out on top.