Greenrod wrote:Ave_IT wrote:Greenrod wrote:Pogleswoody wrote:Greenrod wrote: The first duty of any Government is to protect the public.
So, I have no problem with the Government giving special powers to the police or security services in the event of a terrorist attack, as they have done in the past, or stricter enforcing of control orders, or the collection of communications data from those suspected of being a terrorist.
Now remind me, the guy who shot the Russian Ambassador in Turkey and used his I.D. to get access to him, he wasn't an off duty librarian was he??
What he could have done with a few more Special Powers!!
I think you will find that the police and security forces, in Turkey, already have all the special powers available to them and the ability to intern any dissenters.
........and that works a treat doesn't it ?
The harder they clamp down and the more draconian their 'special powers' become, the more oppressed the minorities feel and the worse the the terrorism becomes. A depressing downward spiral into evil & madness and once begun is near impossible to halt.
Is that right? Well, I think Turkey are in a right mess with retreating ISIS fighters and their ongoing conflict with the Kurds, as well as the recent failed coup, sounds like you should be advising them how to sort out their problems.
As far as the UK is concerned we are talking about terrorists, whether they be fanatic religious or far right, known banned organisations, not particular minority groups of law abiding citizens.
The last coalition government watered down control orders, only for most of them to abscond and return to areas they were banned from. The present government later admitted that these measures posed a greater risk to the public, the government then compensated for its actions by increasing the surveillance budget for the police and security services.
Intelligence gathering is vital in protecting the public, which is why the government were keen to pass the new Anti Terrorism Bill 2015, the draft Communications Data Bill and new Draft Investigatory Powers Bill. In other words, they are doing the best they can in protecting the public.
It was reported, that 7 terrorist attacks were thwarted, in the UK, in 2015 and probably as many again in 2016 - thanks to British Intelligence.
I certainly hope the Investigatory Powers Bill is speeded up.
There's the bit though, law abiding citizens. Until a crime is actually committed we can't go locking up people because they might think that way or look like they might. Until you commit a crime, you are free and innocent.