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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:29 pm 

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Jannerbear wrote:
There’s no doubt this will be a significant set-back. Diagouraga proved himself to be a major upgrade on the likes of Ness and Sarcevic in the middle of the park.
We’ll struggle to get anyone anywhere near as good with the money we’re offering



Pilgrim Pete is an upgrade on Sarcevic and Ness. Toums is a Championship player, so always vulnerable to being poached. Some of Adams signings have been League 2 standard. Can't he just find a decent League 1 player?


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:17 pm 

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He did . Taylor , Matthews , Threlkeld, Bradley .


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:30 pm 

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plymouth1970 wrote:
He did . Taylor , Matthews , Threlkeld, Bradley .




Midfield then.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:05 am 

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Carey, Fox, Songo'o, Jervis?


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 1:19 am 

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Come on Toums you know you want to stay...


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:07 am 
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You can’t blame Toums for wanting to be closer to his family and in all walks of life, football included, money talks. Combine family and money and it’s hard to see a reason to stay if you take the green tinted specs off.

I don’t agree with people questioning the budget though. We have no idea as to the details of these talks, or the talks he may have had with other clubs. We don’t even know who the other clubs are. We can’t compete we everyone and I’m Bury aren’t in to contention to sign him.

For me, he’s one of our best players. His football brain is head and shoulders above the rest of the team and it’s easy to see why there’s been interest. He’s pretty slow for a central midfield these days but he reads the game incredibly well and does the simple things right on a consistent basis. I don’t think you can say the same for any of our other players.

He seems to have really taken to the club and the fans him. I’ve really enjoyed watching him play and wish him luck should Saturday be his last game. Hopefully it isn’t.

If it is though Adams has a big task on his hands in finding a replacement. It struck me as an opportunistic signin at the time, when we really needed a change. Perhaps Toums was waiting through the window to evaluate his options? Whether or not a suitable replacement is available I don’t know but Adams will need to find one. Hopefully he’s already started looking.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:36 am 

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Frazer Lloyd-Davies wrote:
You can’t blame Toums for wanting to be closer to his family and in all walks of life, football included, money talks. Combine family and money and it’s hard to see a reason to stay if you take the green tinted specs off.

I don’t agree with people questioning the budget though. We have no idea as to the details of these talks, or the talks he may have had with other clubs. We don’t even know who the other clubs are. We can’t compete we everyone and I’m Bury aren’t in to contention to sign him.

For me, he’s one of our best players. His football brain is head and shoulders above the rest of the team and it’s easy to see why there’s been interest. He’s pretty slow for a central midfield these days but he reads the game incredibly well and does the simple things right on a consistent basis. I don’t think you can say the same for any of our other players.

He seems to have really taken to the club and the fans him. I’ve really enjoyed watching him play and wish him luck should Saturday be his last game. Hopefully it isn’t.

If it is though Adams has a big task on his hands in finding a replacement. It struck me as an opportunistic signin at the time, when we really needed a change. Perhaps Toums was waiting through the window to evaluate his options? Whether or not a suitable replacement is available I don’t know but Adams will need to find one. Hopefully he’s already started looking.


Good summary of the situation. Those pointing to a lack of budget are just using an easy and obvious stick to criticise Brent, nothing more.

He's a Championship standard player playing in league one, 200 miles from home. It was always going to be incredibily difficult to keep him.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 8:39 am 
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He's still an Argyle player at the minute!

Have we learnt nothing from Adams' reign? When he knows, we know. Nothing slips out at all which wasnt so in the past.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:00 am 
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This sounds mad but is there anything we can do as fans? I think we should stage some kind of protest or show of support for Toums. Sometimes it's not just about the money, and if there's any way we as fans can do something in that Bury game, surely we should do it. Maybe mark the 32nd minute with a rapturous round of applause or something?


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:00 am 
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Stuart House wrote:
Frazer Lloyd-Davies wrote:
You can’t blame Toums for wanting to be closer to his family and in all walks of life, football included, money talks. Combine family and money and it’s hard to see a reason to stay if you take the green tinted specs off.

I don’t agree with people questioning the budget though. We have no idea as to the details of these talks, or the talks he may have had with other clubs. We don’t even know who the other clubs are. We can’t compete we everyone and I’m Bury aren’t in to contention to sign him.

For me, he’s one of our best players. His football brain is head and shoulders above the rest of the team and it’s easy to see why there’s been interest. He’s pretty slow for a central midfield these days but he reads the game incredibly well and does the simple things right on a consistent basis. I don’t think you can say the same for any of our other players.

He seems to have really taken to the club and the fans him. I’ve really enjoyed watching him play and wish him luck should Saturday be his last game. Hopefully it isn’t.

If it is though Adams has a big task on his hands in finding a replacement. It struck me as an opportunistic signin at the time, when we really needed a change. Perhaps Toums was waiting through the window to evaluate his options? Whether or not a suitable replacement is available I don’t know but Adams will need to find one. Hopefully he’s already started looking.


Good summary of the situation. Those pointing to a lack of budget are just using an easy and obvious stick to criticise Brent, nothing more.

He's a Championship standard player playing in league one, 200 miles from home. It was always going to be incredibily difficult to keep him.


Exactly, but we must remember he was formerly with a Championship club who released him. It is very hard for Argyle to compete wages-wise with a Championship club in view of the level of seasonal grants they get as compared to Division One and Two. Whatever will be will be. He played well for us, but there is always the chance that a Club in the Championship will release to a respected club like Argyle, a midfielder on loan [and support his wages] until the end of the season. Hope springs eternal or something like that!


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I think it's unfair to say he's head and shoulders above ALL our players. I'd put Fox in the same category for experience, ability to read the game, confidence on the ball and calm leadership. Having two like that in midfield has made all the difference.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:01 am 

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vibratingspider wrote:
This sounds mad but is there anything we can do as fans? I think we should stage some kind of protest or show of support for Toums. Sometimes it's not just about the money, and if there's any way we as fans can do something in that Bury game, surely we should do it. Maybe mark the 32nd minute with a rapturous round of applause or something?


Not mad at all. He needs to be shown he is wanted here. Does he fully get that vibe at the moment.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:04 am 
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foreigner wrote:
vibratingspider wrote:
This sounds mad but is there anything we can do as fans? I think we should stage some kind of protest or show of support for Toums. Sometimes it's not just about the money, and if there's any way we as fans can do something in that Bury game, surely we should do it. Maybe mark the 32nd minute with a rapturous round of applause or something?


Not mad at all. He needs to be shown he is wanted here. Does he fully get that vibe at the moment.


I think 32nd minute rapturous applause, and "We want you to stay" to be sung for the whole 90 minutes too?

How do these kind of things normally get organised?

Sometimes it can make all the difference.


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