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Harry Burgoyne making his comeback tonight for Wolves U23s. Are we taking him back?
 

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Yes contracted to us until the end of the season. However there's a clause that Wolves can end that agreement in January. That's why I think we've been paying his wages while he's been out injured.
 
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If McCormick was still here Macey might have lost his place in the starting line up by now.

Perhaps Adams would want Burgoyne back here to provide some proper competition ?

Letheren is an emergency back up at best and Cooper is a bit too young at the moment. As things stand, Macey keeps his shirt whatever sort of performance he delivers. And he's been dodgy at times this season.
 

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“Macey keeps his shirt whatever sort of performance he delivers. And he's been dodgy at times this season” sounds very much like McCormick?
McC was blessed with a reasonable defence in front of him, Macey is blessed with a Keystone Kops defence (another posters apt description, not mine)
 
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Sorry but Macey may be the cause of lack of confidence in the defence. He is an ok shot stopper but he prefers to punch the ball out rather than catch it and he doesn`t command his area. Come back Harry a.s.a.p.
 
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If McCormick was still here Macey might have lost his place in the starting line up by now.

Perhaps Adams would want Burgoyne back here to provide some proper competition ?

Letheren is an emergency back up at best and Cooper is a bit too young at the moment. As things stand, Macey keeps his shirt whatever sort of performance he delivers. And he's been dodgy at times this season.

I would mention that Pym of Exeter was aged 18 years 10 months when first selected in goal for a League match at Exeter. He played the final 4 games of that season ending 2014. He carried on from there. Cooper is already 19. When will he be old enough, I ask? It strikes me that the problems of playing young player in the Premiership is becoming also an issue in the lower Leagues, brought about largely by over anxious managers concerning their jobs.
 

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Burgoyne coming back could be a turning point of the season.
It depends if Adams will play a keeper just coming back from injury or play Macey who is now used to playing in League One.
It also might be that we can't return Macey to Arsenal.

The stats show that Macey has conceded the most goals in League One, he hasn't been helped by an ever-changing defence but equally the defenders might have no confidence in Macey.
He's very good at saving shots and some saves have been memorable but he has so many faults - he struggles with kicking a ball straight, he doesn't collect crosses even if they are in the six yard area, he pushes the ball back into the danger area and he regularly gets beaten at his near post. At age 24 it's really surprising that he has so many defects in his game and that they haven't been sorted out by now, his mistakes and lack of command in the area is costing us games.

Burgoyne really can't be any worse.
 
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Burgoyne coming back could be a turning point of the season.
It depends if Adams will play a keeper just coming back from injury or play Macey who is now used to playing in League One.
It also might be that we can't return Macey to Arsenal.

The stats show that Macey has conceded the most goals in League One, he hasn't been helped by an ever-changing defence but equally the defenders might have no confidence in Macey.
He's very good at saving shots and some saves have been memorable but he has so many faults - he struggles with kicking a ball straight, he doesn't collect crosses even if they are in the six yard area, he pushes the ball back into the danger area and he regularly gets beaten at his near post. At age 24 it's really surprising that he has so many defects in his game and that they haven't been sorted out by now, his mistakes and lack of command in the area is costing us games.

Burgoyne really can't be any worse.

I might be wrong, but I thought we only had Macey until January anyway?
 

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How can he be playing for Wolves if he’s on a season long loan to us? Just a thought.
Part of his rehab? He's their player so they'll want to make sure he's 100% before letting him come back.
 

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Burgoyne coming back could be a turning point of the season.
It depends if Adams will play a keeper just coming back from injury or play Macey who is now used to playing in League One.
It also might be that we can't return Macey to Arsenal.

The stats show that Macey has conceded the most goals in League One, he hasn't been helped by an ever-changing defence but equally the defenders might have no confidence in Macey.
He's very good at saving shots and some saves have been memorable but he has so many faults - he struggles with kicking a ball straight, he doesn't collect crosses even if they are in the six yard area, he pushes the ball back into the danger area and he regularly gets beaten at his near post. At age 24 it's really surprising that he has so many defects in his game and that they haven't been sorted out by now, his mistakes and lack of command in the area is costing us games.

Burgoyne really can't be any worse.

I might be wrong, but I thought we only had Macey until January anyway?
He's also on a season long loan.

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How can he be playing for Wolves if he’s on a season long loan to us? Just a thought.
Part of his rehab? He's their player so they'll want to make sure he's 100% before letting him come back.

Hmm - can they do that contractually? Does seem a bit odd.
 

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Frank_Butcher":3clcsa0q said:
Keepitgreen":3clcsa0q said:
Kentishgreen":3clcsa0q said:
How can he be playing for Wolves if he’s on a season long loan to us? Just a thought.
Part of his rehab? He's their player so they'll want to make sure he's 100% before letting him come back.

Hmm - can they do that contractually? Does seem a bit odd.
Who knows? The only things that's been revealed about the contract are that we've continued to pay his wages while he's been out and that Wolves can terminate it in January. Like you say Frank, it seems a bit odd, but I reckon there's something in the deal to cover it otherwise Argyle could have insisted that he comes straight back here once he started training.
 
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Keepitgreen":3hg85twx said:
Frank_Butcher":3hg85twx said:
Keepitgreen":3hg85twx said:
Kentishgreen":3hg85twx said:
How can he be playing for Wolves if he’s on a season long loan to us? Just a thought.
Part of his rehab? He's their player so they'll want to make sure he's 100% before letting him come back.

Hmm - can they do that contractually? Does seem a bit odd.
Who knows? The only things that's been revealed about the contract are that we've continued to pay his wages while he's been out and that Wolves can terminate it in January. Like you say Frank, it seems a bit odd, but I reckon there's something in the deal to cover it otherwise Argyle could have insisted that he comes straight back here once he started training.

It's surely to our benefit he's had some game time as part of his rehab before he comes to us. There's no point him coming back until he's ready to go straight back into our first team.