I thought long about posting this because it may upset a few but to be honest but this is a site about all opinions “Argyle” related and the following matter is something lm passionate about.
I stayed yesterday to the end. It’s was hard to take. Personally seeing my Dad so angry with how the team performed l understood this isn’t an ordinary defeat.
My own view of Ryan Lowe hasn’t changed. Or the team.
This is what l said in a particular post on a Tuesday night after the win
l still honestly think this current team won’t get promoted and finish outside the playoffs.
Three reasons currently as to why l think this.....
1. The right hand side of the team. I stick by what l said. Riley offers us very little as an attacking threat. Our better attacks come down the left hand side. I just feel we are lopsided as a team. I know Wootton works hard but defensively l think he just continues to have a mistake in him.
2. It’s great the way we played last night but Orient came at us. The better teams have sat deep and waited for us to make a mistake and the sprung us on the counter attack. Also l still believe physical teams will feel they can score easy goals from set pieces still.
3. We are now pinging the ball more back to front. However, if their is space behind it’s good because Rudden and Grant will chase the ball. Yet when playing with their back to goal the ball bounces off them a lot or they don’t challenge when the ball is in the air. A lot of times the ball breaks down and the opposition suddenly are running directly at us because our midfield has pushed up expecting for possession to be retained. I’m curious how this gets resolved over time because when we fail to hold the ball up we can suddenly look very open on the counter attack when the game gets stretched.
Overall, we were excellent with the pressing last night. I just am not convinced our defence is mobile or physical enough against the better teams. Also lack of attacking width on the right will mean the better teams shut down our left hand side which means more emphasis will be on Riley’s attacking performance and currently he don’t convince me. People will say we could put a Cooper at RWB but l have seen him play better on the left side. He is great at whipping that ball in as the second goal showed last night. Plus the CAM role is less restrictive for him. Lowe needs to continue to play Cooper in his current position and find a new role/position for Mayor. If you put a Mayor alongside Cooper would we be defensively strong enough in the centre of the pitch with only Edwards as you ball winner. Interesting dilemma for Lowe.
I always said lm 100% behind Lowe. Yet l don’t yo-yo with my feelings. When we were losing in September l still had faith in him to get it right and believed the negativity was strange given how early in his Argyle managerial career it was. He just needs time. However, the mistakes/issues we have seen with Argyle in September l believe will resurface because certain players just don’t have the concentration levels to cut out costly mistakes.
If they manage to cut them out and resolve the issues l mentioned above then l will be wrong and happily see them come the end of the season in the playoffs
So didn’t we witness yesterday many of these points yesterday. Another set piece goal. Being physically muscled out in the midfield. Rudden and Grant not being able to hold the ball up. An ineffective Riley on the right side yet again.
I said certain players don’t have the “concentration powers” to cut out mistakes. We saw that yesterday.
The signs are there to see even when we are winning it’s just it often gets over looked as most bask in the result of the score line without really identifying how good a performance that was.
Then a poster said the following to me.
Amazing how you think we won't even make the playoffs.
And only 7 points off the lead,shall be quoting your posts at end of season when we are promoted :scarf: :scarf:
Which part of my reply was
I’m not having a go at Lowe. I fully behind the manager. If he gets us promoted this season then it will be wonderful. I’m not going to flip flop with how l feel. Read the comments in September on here. It was doom and gloom. Now we win a few people change their emotions. If we lose on Saturday l will be gutted but l will still feel the same way as l do now about Lowe. I doubt however, that will be the reaction on social media platforms including here.
I’m don’t think Argyle are a bad side. I’m enjoying watching us develop under Lowe. And if we rocket ahead and win game after game then so be it. I will be wrong, but extremely happy.
We lost. We only have to look at reaction. Some of it l may add is very highly thought out and well written but most of it on social media is just an emotional rant.
Now you can call our team spineless & gutless for yesterday’s performance. It’s deserved. Yet l don’t think that describes the other 12 games we have so far seen. Sure, a number of average performances but l think a number of factors are involved in that as mentioned before.
I’m sorry guys but the way some of supporters flip-flop after results, especially when a manager has only 13 games and 3 months of competitive football l am finding it hard to understand. At Bury he never changed it around straight away to a winning mentality. They went down from league one. So he must of had some bad results in the initial 3-5 months. It’s like Argyle fans make snap judgements based on every single result. Don’t people see some decent things amongst the bad stuff? For example those last two homes games we finally saw a player who could get decent delivery in the box. Not every time, else George Cooper wouldn’t be in league two. We saw a team press and in the face of the opposition. Where that went yesterday l don’t know but that shows even more a team in transition and being very inconsistent.
It’s frustrating to watch but surely as fans Ryan Lowe needs our support and backing through the tough times. I’d understand some of the current reaction if he had been in charge for 18 months / 2 years but it’s so early in his Argyle tenure. If it all suddenly clicks later on it will be easy to support and get behind the him and the team. Isn’t it now though when it’s very tough to take that you show your support to him and the team?
It just seems that patience in football has gone out the window. A couple of good or bad results and people are jumping to conclusions how good or bad a manager he is. I personally don’t know at this stage with him inheriting half a squad and having half a transfer window how you know if he will be successful at Argyle. Yet surely he deserves time, backing and support over at least this season and into next to see if he walks the walk, as well as talks the talk.
Im 100% behind Lowe. Yesterday was embarrassing. Lowe is to be blamed for yesterday’s performance. Also l understand the criticism over the system he plays and particular personnel. Yet the criticism seems to spill into a complete lack of faith in a manager who somehow have decided he isn’t already good enough. At this rate we would be have 3 managers a season if some got their way and wanted him out. It’s barmy.
Hopefully yesterday was a watershed moment when we look back at his Argyle tenure. I’m afraid instant success rarely happens. If it does it ain’t built on solid foundations. You got to have some faith in people. As supporters of this wonderful football club l wonder at times why the faith evaporates so quickly. We want managers to be loyal to us fans when they successful. Well to me it works both ways and when a manager is struggling you get behind him and show your support.
I stayed yesterday to the end. It’s was hard to take. Personally seeing my Dad so angry with how the team performed l understood this isn’t an ordinary defeat.
My own view of Ryan Lowe hasn’t changed. Or the team.
This is what l said in a particular post on a Tuesday night after the win
l still honestly think this current team won’t get promoted and finish outside the playoffs.
Three reasons currently as to why l think this.....
1. The right hand side of the team. I stick by what l said. Riley offers us very little as an attacking threat. Our better attacks come down the left hand side. I just feel we are lopsided as a team. I know Wootton works hard but defensively l think he just continues to have a mistake in him.
2. It’s great the way we played last night but Orient came at us. The better teams have sat deep and waited for us to make a mistake and the sprung us on the counter attack. Also l still believe physical teams will feel they can score easy goals from set pieces still.
3. We are now pinging the ball more back to front. However, if their is space behind it’s good because Rudden and Grant will chase the ball. Yet when playing with their back to goal the ball bounces off them a lot or they don’t challenge when the ball is in the air. A lot of times the ball breaks down and the opposition suddenly are running directly at us because our midfield has pushed up expecting for possession to be retained. I’m curious how this gets resolved over time because when we fail to hold the ball up we can suddenly look very open on the counter attack when the game gets stretched.
Overall, we were excellent with the pressing last night. I just am not convinced our defence is mobile or physical enough against the better teams. Also lack of attacking width on the right will mean the better teams shut down our left hand side which means more emphasis will be on Riley’s attacking performance and currently he don’t convince me. People will say we could put a Cooper at RWB but l have seen him play better on the left side. He is great at whipping that ball in as the second goal showed last night. Plus the CAM role is less restrictive for him. Lowe needs to continue to play Cooper in his current position and find a new role/position for Mayor. If you put a Mayor alongside Cooper would we be defensively strong enough in the centre of the pitch with only Edwards as you ball winner. Interesting dilemma for Lowe.
I always said lm 100% behind Lowe. Yet l don’t yo-yo with my feelings. When we were losing in September l still had faith in him to get it right and believed the negativity was strange given how early in his Argyle managerial career it was. He just needs time. However, the mistakes/issues we have seen with Argyle in September l believe will resurface because certain players just don’t have the concentration levels to cut out costly mistakes.
If they manage to cut them out and resolve the issues l mentioned above then l will be wrong and happily see them come the end of the season in the playoffs
So didn’t we witness yesterday many of these points yesterday. Another set piece goal. Being physically muscled out in the midfield. Rudden and Grant not being able to hold the ball up. An ineffective Riley on the right side yet again.
I said certain players don’t have the “concentration powers” to cut out mistakes. We saw that yesterday.
The signs are there to see even when we are winning it’s just it often gets over looked as most bask in the result of the score line without really identifying how good a performance that was.
Then a poster said the following to me.
Amazing how you think we won't even make the playoffs.
And only 7 points off the lead,shall be quoting your posts at end of season when we are promoted :scarf: :scarf:
Which part of my reply was
I’m not having a go at Lowe. I fully behind the manager. If he gets us promoted this season then it will be wonderful. I’m not going to flip flop with how l feel. Read the comments in September on here. It was doom and gloom. Now we win a few people change their emotions. If we lose on Saturday l will be gutted but l will still feel the same way as l do now about Lowe. I doubt however, that will be the reaction on social media platforms including here.
I’m don’t think Argyle are a bad side. I’m enjoying watching us develop under Lowe. And if we rocket ahead and win game after game then so be it. I will be wrong, but extremely happy.
We lost. We only have to look at reaction. Some of it l may add is very highly thought out and well written but most of it on social media is just an emotional rant.
Now you can call our team spineless & gutless for yesterday’s performance. It’s deserved. Yet l don’t think that describes the other 12 games we have so far seen. Sure, a number of average performances but l think a number of factors are involved in that as mentioned before.
I’m sorry guys but the way some of supporters flip-flop after results, especially when a manager has only 13 games and 3 months of competitive football l am finding it hard to understand. At Bury he never changed it around straight away to a winning mentality. They went down from league one. So he must of had some bad results in the initial 3-5 months. It’s like Argyle fans make snap judgements based on every single result. Don’t people see some decent things amongst the bad stuff? For example those last two homes games we finally saw a player who could get decent delivery in the box. Not every time, else George Cooper wouldn’t be in league two. We saw a team press and in the face of the opposition. Where that went yesterday l don’t know but that shows even more a team in transition and being very inconsistent.
It’s frustrating to watch but surely as fans Ryan Lowe needs our support and backing through the tough times. I’d understand some of the current reaction if he had been in charge for 18 months / 2 years but it’s so early in his Argyle tenure. If it all suddenly clicks later on it will be easy to support and get behind the him and the team. Isn’t it now though when it’s very tough to take that you show your support to him and the team?
It just seems that patience in football has gone out the window. A couple of good or bad results and people are jumping to conclusions how good or bad a manager he is. I personally don’t know at this stage with him inheriting half a squad and having half a transfer window how you know if he will be successful at Argyle. Yet surely he deserves time, backing and support over at least this season and into next to see if he walks the walk, as well as talks the talk.
Im 100% behind Lowe. Yesterday was embarrassing. Lowe is to be blamed for yesterday’s performance. Also l understand the criticism over the system he plays and particular personnel. Yet the criticism seems to spill into a complete lack of faith in a manager who somehow have decided he isn’t already good enough. At this rate we would be have 3 managers a season if some got their way and wanted him out. It’s barmy.
Hopefully yesterday was a watershed moment when we look back at his Argyle tenure. I’m afraid instant success rarely happens. If it does it ain’t built on solid foundations. You got to have some faith in people. As supporters of this wonderful football club l wonder at times why the faith evaporates so quickly. We want managers to be loyal to us fans when they successful. Well to me it works both ways and when a manager is struggling you get behind him and show your support.
