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derbygreen":25izvyob said:I thought both penalties looked a little soft.I
wouldn't be happy if I was a Rovers fan. I'm happy with the result though and a chance to push on into the third round.
davie nine":1tihnvtc said:How do you define a ‘soft’ penalty?
Surely, it is either a correct decision or an incorrect decision. I haven’t seen the highlights yet.
Is there a suggestion that a foul in the penalty should be judged more leniently than an identical foul outside the penalty area?
i was at the match cobi in the front of the standing terrace,do you think byron should have scored?Cobi Budge":u20sw77f said:derbygreen":u20sw77f said:I thought both penalties looked a little soft.I
wouldn't be happy if I was a Rovers fan. I'm happy with the result though and a chance to push on into the third round.
I think both are penalties, they’re not the most stonewall penalties you’ll see granted but the first is a shove in the back and for the second it looks like Moore is pulled. We deserved the draw at a minimum and if I were a Rovers fan I’d be feeling fortunate to still be in the hat.
davie nine":2k5xx3iz said:How do you define a ‘soft’ penalty?
Surely, it is either a correct decision or an incorrect decision. I haven’t seen the highlights yet.
Is there a suggestion that a foul in the penalty should be judged more leniently than an identical foul outside the penalty area?
Thanks for taking the time to give your opinion on that, jimsing. Much appreciated.jimsing":3h20e40k said:davie nine":3h20e40k said:How do you define a ‘soft’ penalty?
Surely, it is either a correct decision or an incorrect decision. I haven’t seen the highlights yet.
Is there a suggestion that a foul in the penalty should be judged more leniently than an identical foul outside the penalty area?
I guess the answer to your question, Davie, is that the referee has to decide whether it IS a foul or whether the player has dived.
These days there will probably be a bit of both. The player has to decide what his chances are of scoring a goal and if he thinks he is unlikely to do so then he looks for contact from the opposition player before going to ground. Is it a foul? Is it a dive? It can be a bit of both and the referee has to make a quick decision as to whether he awards a penalty or not.
There are less clear cut decisions these days and the referee has to make a decision on what he has seen, which may not be from the best position from which a decision should be made (hence VAR, to make the decision easier for the ref).
The greater the dive, the softer the penalty decision I guess, going from 100% stonewall foul to 100% dive with little contact made, and all aspects in between.
I blame the continental footballers for bringing diving into the game and I also blame FIFA for not clamping down on it and it now seems to be treated as being part and parcel of the game.
In the early days the continentals did have a lot more skill than the English players and we used to hack them down relentlessly, so I suppose they have refined their diving skills in order to counter this treatment, and of course they have brought it with them into the British game as the Premiership has opened the door to the influx of foreign players.
We English have just copied them and it has now infiltrated all four leagues and probably all the schoolkids are now teaching themselves as they see it on tv as a matter of course.
Diving IS cheating, of course, because players do it in order to persuade the referee to award them an advantage, when their actions don't really warrant it.
There is so much at stake these days that players want to obtain every advantage that they can get.
Now don't get me started on time-wasting, the other bug bare of the professional game!!!!
jimsing":1pd5w5eu said:davie nine":1pd5w5eu said:How do you define a ‘soft’ penalty?
Surely, it is either a correct decision or an incorrect decision. I haven’t seen the highlights yet.
Is there a suggestion that a foul in the penalty should be judged more leniently than an identical foul outside the penalty area?
I guess the answer to your question, Davie, is that the referee has to decide whether it IS a foul or whether the player has dived.
These days there will probably be a bit of both. The player has to decide what his chances are of scoring a goal and if he thinks he is unlikely to do so then he looks for contact from the opposition player before going to ground. Is it a foul? Is it a dive? It can be a bit of both and the referee has to make a quick decision as to whether he awards a penalty or not.
There are less clear cut decisions these days and the referee has to make a decision on what he has seen, which may not be from the best position from which a decision should be made (hence VAR, to make the decision easier for the ref).
The greater the dive, the softer the penalty decision I guess, going from 100% stonewall foul to 100% dive with little contact made, and all aspects in between.
I blame the continental footballers for bringing diving into the game and I also blame FIFA for not clamping down on it and it now seems to be treated as being part and parcel of the game.
In the early days the continentals did have a lot more skill than the English players and we used to hack them down relentlessly, so I suppose they have refined their diving skills in order to counter this treatment, and of course they have brought it with them into the British game as the Premiership has opened the door to the influx of foreign players.
We English have just copied them and it has now infiltrated all four leagues and probably all the schoolkids are now teaching themselves as they see it on tv as a matter of course.
Diving IS cheating, of course, because players do it in order to persuade the referee to award them an advantage, when their actions don't really warrant it.
There is so much at stake these days that players want to obtain every advantage that they can get.
Now don't get me started on time-wasting, the other bug bare of the professional game!!!!
Gary S":1eqyd9rv said:Anyone think there was a handball in the area after the penalty was saved ?
Just my imagination ?