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Just having a gripe about some peoples inconsiderate parking at football and in general. How often do you see two spaces being taken up by one vehicle in the middle especially when Argyle are at home and parking is at a premium. Also those that park on the curb each side of the road which does not leave room for say a fire engine to get by .Its not against the law yet to park on the pavement. Rant over :scarf:
 

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I did hear that the wardens were out again at the last home game.

Targeting poor parking in and by the Life Centre apparently.
 
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I am looking to increase parking at home park over the summer
 

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Clem":b05eetgg said:
Its not against the law yet to park on the pavement.

Actually it is, it is technically obstructing the highway** but is a matter for D&C's finest as it is not a parking offence and therefore nothing to do with Wardens.

** Officially the highway includes any pavements alongside the actual roadway, and includes both hard and soft pavements.
 
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Clem":3o7m2m97 said:
Just having a gripe about some peoples inconsiderate parking at football and in general. How often do you see two spaces being taken up by one vehicle in the middle especially when Argyle are at home and parking is at a premium. Also those that park on the curb each side of the road which does not leave room for say a fire engine to get by .Its not against the law yet to park on the pavement. Rant over :scarf:

Oh yes it is.

Parking on the pavement IS against the law. The pavements are for pedestrians, NOT motor vehicles.

If a vehicle is seen to drive over the kerb and remain on it, then the driver could be prosecuted for driving on the pavement.

If, after parking on the pavement, there is insufficient room for a pedestrian (or a wheelchair, or a pram or suchlike) to pass on the pavement without having to enter the road to pass, then the offence of causing an obstruction of the pavement has been committed.

If there is insufficient room for another vehicle (eg fire engine) to pass through on the road, then the offence of causing an obstruction of the road has been committed.

There may also be local by-laws in force which could be used in other circumstances.

The Police (and maybe the Council) could take action if they had inclination to do so, although the Police would not make it a priority would they?

However if a complaint was made of regular parking on pavements then they would have to investigate in order to take some action, enforceable or not.
 
Aug 17, 2011
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I was once told that parking half on a pavement wasnā€™t illegal but driving onto a pavement was. As you cannot park on the pavement without having to drive thatā€™s what makes it illegal.

Strange how youā€™re complaining about people possibly parking outside their own homes.
 
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jimsing":3nitosvk said:
Clem":3nitosvk said:
Just having a gripe about some peoples inconsiderate parking at football and in general. How often do you see two spaces being taken up by one vehicle in the middle especially when Argyle are at home and parking is at a premium. Also those that park on the curb each side of the road which does not leave room for say a fire engine to get by .Its not against the law yet to park on the pavement. Rant over :scarf:

Oh yes it is.

Parking on the pavement IS against the law. The pavements are for pedestrians, NOT motor vehicles.

If a vehicle is seen to drive over the kerb and remain on it, then the driver could be prosecuted for driving on the pavement.

If, after parking on the pavement, there is insufficient room for a pedestrian (or a wheelchair, or a pram or suchlike) to pass on the pavement without having to enter the road to pass, then the offence of causing an obstruction of the pavement has been committed.

If there is insufficient room for another vehicle (eg fire engine) to pass through on the road, then the offence of causing an obstruction of the road has been committed.

There may also be local by-laws in force which could be used in other circumstances.

The Police (and maybe the Council) could take action if they had inclination to do so, although the Police would not make it a priority would they?

However if a complaint was made of regular parking on pavements then they would have to investigate in order to take some action, enforceable or not.


Just got to find local Police officers who actually give a toss about it though. They donā€™t even attend some burglaries now and many instances of lower level theft, criminal damage etc. In the great scheme of things, a bit of inconsiderate parking on a matchday is hardly worthy of a rant really. Of course, if a road is blocked so that fire engines canā€™t get down it, thatā€™s of concern.

Parking in the streets around grounds is an issue at virtually every club except those built in the middle of nowhere! Argyle is no different to anywhere else.
 
Aug 17, 2011
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There are some differences though. We have two large car parks right on top of the ground and still people rather park across someone elseā€™s driveway because being stuck in traffic on the main road is less stressful than being stuck in traffic coming out of the car park.

Maybe there could be measures for match days whereby every car exiting the car parks have to turn left and draw traffic along Outland road until it deviates at the Brit.Having the loop by Goals is what makes life more difficult.
 

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Some of the 'parking' by fans here in Beacon Park (in and around Montpelier school) has to be seen to be believed.
 
May 27, 2019
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They sort of cured it in the residential streets around Hillsborough by various residents parking orders, limited waiting times etc. Residents then complain about the faff of applying for permits etc. Supporters still park all over every grass verge they can find and it also becomes common knowledge that there arenā€™t enough parking wardens to police it properly. The police have better things to do on a matchday. Some say everybody should use public transport, but even in Sheffield with its amazing tram system and transport hub, itā€™s just not that straightforward when there are crowds of 23,000 plus most weeks. Although that will change if Chansiri, Monk and the players donā€™t get their act together soon! (Sorry, off topic!)

Iā€™ve never actually lived in the immediate vicinity of a major football ground (I once lived near Sid James Park, but obviously that doesnā€™t count), so I can only imagine the annoyance and inconvenience for local residents, but I suppose these grounds have been there long before many of the houses, so residents know that they will have some inconvenience, usually once a fortnight or twice at the most.
 

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Devongreenowl":2f7yrevm said:
jimsing":2f7yrevm said:
Clem":2f7yrevm said:
Just having a gripe about some peoples inconsiderate parking at football and in general. How often do you see two spaces being taken up by one vehicle in the middle especially when Argyle are at home and parking is at a premium. Also those that park on the curb each side of the road which does not leave room for say a fire engine to get by .Its not against the law yet to park on the pavement. Rant over :scarf:

Oh yes it is.

Parking on the pavement IS against the law. The pavements are for pedestrians, NOT motor vehicles.

If a vehicle is seen to drive over the kerb and remain on it, then the driver could be prosecuted for driving on the pavement.

If, after parking on the pavement, there is insufficient room for a pedestrian (or a wheelchair, or a pram or suchlike) to pass on the pavement without having to enter the road to pass, then the offence of causing an obstruction of the pavement has been committed.

If there is insufficient room for another vehicle (eg fire engine) to pass through on the road, then the offence of causing an obstruction of the road has been committed.

There may also be local by-laws in force which could be used in other circumstances.

The Police (and maybe the Council) could take action if they had inclination to do so, although the Police would not make it a priority would they?

However if a complaint was made of regular parking on pavements then they would have to investigate in order to take some action, enforceable or not.


Just got to find local Police officers who actually give a toss about it though. They donā€™t even attend some burglaries now and many instances of lower level theft, criminal damage etc. In the great scheme of things, a bit of inconsiderate parking on a matchday is hardly worthy of a rant really. Of course, if a road is blocked so that fire engines canā€™t get down it, thatā€™s of concern.

Parking in the streets around grounds is an issue at virtually every club except those built in the middle of nowhere! Argyle is no different to anywhere else.
Yeah the police have generally turned a blind eye when I take a screwdriver to the side of a car blocking a pavement. fortunately. :cool: