I get it but there’s still a lot on here that don’t....especially the one’s that don’t think we’re up yet....einstein

The EFL are trying to make the best of a difficult and far from ideal situation and seem to have done a good job based on todays draft framework. To be completely fair we would feel hard done by in either Peterborough or Tranmere's situation. Doesn't mean I don't think its the right way for things to be resolved but I think it would be hard to swallow.

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If Argyle were in the position of Cheltenham or Exeter, I think the mood on PASOTI would be a bit different than it is now.

No doubt about that.

The unfair thing about this end to the season is the fact every team had a different run in. The points accrued to this point had been against different teams to one another. The table is only fair after the 46th match when every team has played every other club twice.

Stopping the season now just doesn't feel right, if we were in and around the playoff places it would feel very unfair.

Obviously. So you think it would be fairer to null and void?

Yes, with 9 or 10 games there are too many points to play for to predict how the table will have looked like after 46 games.
As an example last season in League 1, after 37 games of the four teams in the relegation places only one actually got relegated. Two of the teams that did get relegated were mid table at the point.
I can understand Tranmere’s point of view as the financial and career implications based on an arbitrary guess of what might happen is huge.

I realise that Argyle’s likely promotion will come as a bitter disappointment to you, particularly as Lowe will have achieved in 1 season what it took Derek 2 seasons to achieve. It’s easy to see why you are so keen to see the season declared null and void.

In response to the point you are trying to make, the EFL are not predicting how the table would have been after 46 games; the season has been terminated at 36/37 games. In very difficult circumstances, my only issue is the non-use of weighted ppg.

I for one will not feel guilty about Argyle taking the place of teams who have been in the bottom 4 virtually all season, bearing in mind it’s normally 4 teams who get relegated from League 1, so another team has had a massive let off this season.

You appear to think that it would be be much fairer if Bolton (21 points adrift and 5 wins all season ) and Southend (16 points adrift and 4 wins all season) were let off being relegated. In the history of League Football, you would struggle to find 2 teams more deserving of relegation.

The likes of Wimbledon and 1 or 2 others can count themselves very lucky whilst Tranmere can justifiably feel somewhat disappointed, as most relegated teams usually do. They will look back at numerous ‘if only’ moments during the season, as we know ourselves only too well from last season; that’s football I suppose.

But the fact remains that Tranmere have struggled all season and are probably going to pay the price.

and Tranmere beat Coventry Away.....that’s football as they say .

The teams that I am disappointed for amongst many are South Shields, Jersey Bulls and Truro City.
Wouldn’t it be wonderful if there was a consistent approach across all English football.

So you an Argyle fan or not? Would our promotion in some small way help you to compensate?

Fully agree, I cannot understand why the National League took the decision to shut down so soon.

I feel very sorry for Truro and Wotton in particular.

I regularly visit South Shields so I know the area and the people up there and I feel for them as well, they have been very badly treated.

The way these 3 teams have been so very badly treated demonstrates how voiding the season is so obviously more unfair than early termination and using average ppg to determine promotion and relegation.

Come on Hot & Cold Green. Admit it. You must be just a teeny bit happy that it looks like the Greens are going up. Surely? No?

Some back of the fag packet maths here (even though I don't smoke) :

Unweighted :

Posh 70.8
WW 72.0

Weighted H & A :

Posh 71.5
WW 70.3

I reckon the weighted version is fairer so would consider Peterborough hard done bay but find their chairman rather up himself so hey ho never mind.

In a weighted League 1 table both Peterborough and Wycombe make the Play-offs.

However, Portsmouth would miss out by 0.08 of a point.

As much as I haven't liked the way Peterborough have conducted themselves during this, I really can't understand why weighted ppg was not used as the standard. It seems the fairest of 2 unperfect systems. Home and away form is a factor of football that is well recognised and often discussed.

Weighted PPG means the EFL are predicting results which is not in the EFL rulebook. Ending the season early can be done as EFL rules state the season ends 'after the last game has been played'. Non weighted PPG makes no assumptions about future performance and basically ends the season as it is now.

In a weighted League 1 table both Peterborough and Wycombe make the Play-offs.

However, Portsmouth would miss out by 0.08 of a point.

I vote for that then

As much as I haven't liked the way Peterborough have conducted themselves during this, I really can't understand why weighted ppg was not used as the standard. It seems the fairest of 2 unperfect systems. Home and away form is a factor of football that is well recognised and often discussed.

Weighted PPG means the EFL are predicting results which is not in the EFL rulebook. Ending the season early can be done as EFL rules state the season ends 'after the last game has been played'. Non weighted PPG makes no assumptions about future performance and basically ends the season as it is now.

You are wrong to say that weighted ppg is predicting results.

Neither weighted average ppg or mean average ppg makes predictions or assumptions. The season is terminated at 36/37 games and the averages are determined from the results of the actual games played.

Calculated averages to date are not predictions of future games that will never be played.

If you want to go down that route, you may as well bring back the old Pools Panel and whilst they’re at it, get them to explain how Sunderland couldn’t even manage a draw against a team that had barely won a game in months. I’m so glad that they are missing out again, sad but true.

Rant over and back to the point. For all teams, their home average ppg is significantly higher than their away average and the crucial difference with weighted ppg is that it takes that all-important fact into account.

So in a 37-game season where you might have played 19 home games, mean average ppg gives you an advantage over a team who have played 19 away games instead.

Portsmouth have played 19 home games, Peterborough have played 19 away games.

By using mean average ppg, the extra home game is enough to put Portsmouth in the Play-offs at the expense of Peterborough.