Twitter account offers opinion following the PMs latest "support" to a struggling leisure industry.

https://twitter.com/Only1Argyle/status/ ... 88608?s=19

Encouraging people to visit cinemas - stuffy, small, indoor spaces - whilst simultaneously saying that being in an outdoor, expansive sports stadium is too dangerous, seems absolutely absurd.

Yep, plus pubs.

It’s a nonsense it truly is.

Encouraging people to visit cinemas - stuffy, small, indoor spaces - whilst simultaneously saying that being in an outdoor, expansive sports stadium is too dangerous, seems absolutely absurd.

The danger is not being in an outdoor, expansive stadium, the danger is from how people get to and from the stadium and what they do before and after the event.

The cinema is a controlled environment with lots of COVID mitigations in place. Whereas at the end of a game as an example I doubt it would be easy to enforce or implement social distancing at the squeeze point behind the corner of the Lyndhurst and Devonport.

Similarly for London Clubs how would social distancing work on the tubes and trains after matches?

[Ponty]

Argyle need 8/10000 fans in to make it viable. I won't be one of them.

Encouraging people to visit cinemas - stuffy, small, indoor spaces - whilst simultaneously saying that being in an outdoor, expansive sports stadium is too dangerous, seems absolutely absurd.

The danger is not being in an outdoor, expansive stadium, the danger is from how people get to and from the stadium and what they do before and after the event.

The cinema is a controlled environment with lots of COVID mitigations in place. Whereas at the end of a game as an example I doubt it would be easy to enforce or implement social distancing at the squeeze point behind the corner of the Lyndhurst and Devonport.

Similarly for London Clubs how would social distancing work on the tubes and trains after matches?

What you’re describing is identical to the situation with the utterly barmy 22:00 curfew though - potentially the most ridiculous measure introduced yet. Masses of people all going home at the same time. So the inconsistencies are very clear to see.

Encouraging people to visit cinemas - stuffy, small, indoor spaces - whilst simultaneously saying that being in an outdoor, expansive sports stadium is too dangerous, seems absolutely absurd.

The danger is not being in an outdoor, expansive stadium, the danger is from how people get to and from the stadium and what they do before and after the event.

The cinema is a controlled environment with lots of COVID mitigations in place. Whereas at the end of a game as an example I doubt it would be easy to enforce or implement social distancing at the squeeze point behind the corner of the Lyndhurst and Devonport.

Similarly for London Clubs how would social distancing work on the tubes and trains after matches?

What you’re describing is identical to the situation with the utterly barmy 22:00 curfew though - potentially the most ridiculous measure introduced yet. Masses of people all going home at the same time. So the inconsistencies are very clear to see.

Pubs don’t have tens of thousands leaving en masse in very congested areas. No comparison at all.

Encouraging people to visit cinemas - stuffy, small, indoor spaces - whilst simultaneously saying that being in an outdoor, expansive sports stadium is too dangerous, seems absolutely absurd.

The danger is not being in an outdoor, expansive stadium, the danger is from how people get to and from the stadium and what they do before and after the event.

The cinema is a controlled environment with lots of COVID mitigations in place. Whereas at the end of a game as an example I doubt it would be easy to enforce or implement social distancing at the squeeze point behind the corner of the Lyndhurst and Devonport.

Similarly for London Clubs how would social distancing work on the tubes and trains after matches?

What you’re describing is identical to the situation with the utterly barmy 22:00 curfew though - potentially the most ridiculous measure introduced yet. Masses of people all going home at the same time. So the inconsistencies are very clear to see.

People don't all leave the pub at the same time. At football games they do.

You’ve obviously never been to Soho on a Friday night, it’s exactly like leaving a football match.

And in any case, they could just empty each block on a staggered basis rather than everyone leaving together.

Encouraging people to visit cinemas - stuffy, small, indoor spaces - whilst simultaneously saying that being in an outdoor, expansive sports stadium is too dangerous, seems absolutely absurd.

The danger is not being in an outdoor, expansive stadium, the danger is from how people get to and from the stadium and what they do before and after the event.

The cinema is a controlled environment with lots of COVID mitigations in place. Whereas at the end of a game as an example I doubt it would be easy to enforce or implement social distancing at the squeeze point behind the corner of the Lyndhurst and Devonport.

Similarly for London Clubs how would social distancing work on the tubes and trains after matches?

What you’re describing is identical to the situation with the utterly barmy 22:00 curfew though - potentially the most ridiculous measure introduced yet. Masses of people all going home at the same time. So the inconsistencies are very clear to see.

Pubs don’t have tens of thousands leaving en masse in very congested areas. No comparison at all.

Have you been in central London or central Liverpool lately? Absolute chaos at closing time. Far worse than post match. Even Mutley Plain on Saturday night was pretty bad. The 22:00 curfew has been a disaster.

And as the above poster has said, you could easily stagger stadium arrival and departure times.

The poster who said that the danger lies in getting to and from the ground is spot on - and I'm not talking about Covid, but road accidents.
I invite people to examine the statistics on this - of which there's plenty. For a normal healthy person, of any age, you'd struggle even to become seriously ill with Covid, let alone die.
The risks that you run driving and all sorts of other things are off the scale compared to Covid.
I'm 77 and I'd be there (HP, that is) tomorrow, if they'd let me.

The poster who said that the danger lies in getting to and from the ground is spot on - and I'm not talking about Covid, but road accidents.
I invite people to examine the statistics on this - of which there's plenty. For a normal healthy person, of any age, you'd struggle even to become seriously ill with Covid, let alone die.
The risks that you run driving and all sorts of other things are off the scale compared to Covid.
I'm 77 and I'd be there (HP, that is) tomorrow, if they'd let me.

The issue with COVID is not about me, whether I get seriously ill or not but will the person I pass it on to die from it or the person he/she passes onto die and so on.
That is why the current rules stress social distancing and putting in mitigations to reduce the risk and why getting to and away from mass events are unlikely to have these mitigations in place.

There really isn’t an argument to made that allowing people to attend concerts at the O2 or the Royal Albert Hall is in any way more ‘covid secure’ than attending football.

This line that gets trotted out about travel to and from the stadiums being the problem only makes sense if other ‘mass gatherings’ are banned, which at this point they clearly are not. Unless I’ve missed something wouldn’t people be travelling to the O2 by the same means, or has teleportation been invented?

I think people underestimate the lengths that clubs have gone to in preparation for fans to return. Colchester United look to have ripped up every fourth seat or so!