I find it incredibly frustrating that despite the club doing well this forum can at times have such a negative focus, with some well documented perpetual naysayers. I find it baffling and a total disservice to the quiet majority that visit this site every day and put up with the negative carp being spouted.

Lets look at the facts - and I suggest on the squad development, you should all watch Neil Dewsnip's interview as he clearly states how loans are being used to strengthen the squad, talks about the development of youngster. https://www.pafc.co.uk/news/2020/octobe ... interview/

Lets look at facts on squad development and recruitment
Competition for places - Lowe wants, like most managers, 2 people fighting for each position, it creates competition and strength in depth. He now has that and it allows him to have quality options from the bench.
Fixture congestion - This season is also unique and it is going to be condensed with many games coming thick and fast which equals tiredness and injuries.
Covid Impact - On top of this we have Coronavirus rampant, we have already have had 2 players test positive. I'm sure more will test positive at some stage in the season.
Injuries - So lets imagine that 15% of the (22 man) squad is always going to be missing, so 3-4 players through a combination of injuries, illness, suspension will be out every week. So that leaves a match-day squad of 18. This weekend for example we miss Luke/ Macleod/ Sawyer and possibly Hardie.
Youth Development - Lowe has clearly seen that Wilson, Randell, Tomlinson , Pursall and probably Lolos are all still a work in progress hence why they are on loan or have a clear plan. Dewsnip said for example that young Pursall is benefitting from exposure and learning from first team training.
Budgets - On the subject of budgets, it is clear to me that Lowe, Dewsnip, Schuey all talk about this every 2 weeks with Simon Hallett and Andrew Parkinson (see video where Neil refers to this). So they are simply operating within their football budget. Plus as another poster said I'm sure some parent clubs help out on the loan front. Loans are good for us, think where Cooper and Hardie came from last season.
Partnerships - I would say to have the quality of the squad we have, a clear development pathway for young players and the added bonus of having forged strong partnerships with the likes of Newcastle, Fulham and Forest is a big feather in the cap of the club and the football department. Those relationships with "bigger" clubs can only help us in the future and also bridge that gap from the football community we have due to our geographical location.

Strong start and learning - On top of this we are 8th in the league, conceded only 2 goals in the last 3 league games ( !!) , we are getting better, creating chances, playing attractive football, two academy products are delivering at either end of the pitch and as a team we are learning all the time. Ok so we might not be good enough to go up (but who knows?) but I think we are also too good to go down and I think we will have a lot more excitement than dreary times watching Argyle this season.

Argyle professionalism and positive atmosphere - Oh and all the players talk about the great atmosphere at the club (see Nouble, Watts interviews), the no"d1ckhead policy" and Luke also talked about how professional the club is compared to when he was last here (Commentators mentioned this in ifollow last week).

Wouldn't you say the club is doing really well, so why the negativity ? I've seen nearly 40 years of Argyle and this is up there with one of the best periods I have seen and I am personally very proud of how our club is developing. Well done to all concerned with the club ....oh and please don't listen to some of these serial negative naysayers nonsense posts!

Thank you for writing what I was thinking! We've built a strong squad within the League 1 salary cap and Simon Hallett's playing budget. We have options in every position, COVID and injuries permitting.
I am delighted with all of this, and looking forward to seeing how this continues to translate on the pitch.

A right sided wing back would have been my priority over an additional forward.
Moore and Edwards look a bit sub par at this level. Especially since how important the wing back role is in the formation Lowe plays.

As always you can't judge a player until he's played a few games. Whoever he is, whatever his reputation.

I find it incredibly frustrating that despite the club doing well this forum can at times have such a negative focus, with some well documented perpetual naysayers. I find it baffling and a total disservice to the quiet majority that visit this site every day and put up with the negative carp being spouted.

Lets look at the facts - and I suggest on the squad development, you should all watch Neil Dewsnip's interview as he clearly states how loans are being used to strengthen the squad, talks about the development of youngster. https://www.pafc.co.uk/news/2020/octobe ... interview/

Lets look at facts on squad development and recruitment
Competition for places - Lowe wants, like most managers, 2 people fighting for each position, it creates competition and strength in depth. He now has that and it allows him to have quality options from the bench.
Fixture congestion - This season is also unique and it is going to be condensed with many games coming thick and fast which equals tiredness and injuries.
Covid Impact - On top of this we have Coronavirus rampant, we have already have had 2 players test positive. I'm sure more will test positive at some stage in the season.
Injuries - So lets imagine that 15% of the (22 man) squad is always going to be missing, so 3-4 players through a combination of injuries, illness, suspension will be out every week. So that leaves a match-day squad of 18. This weekend for example we miss Luke/ Macleod/ Sawyer and possibly Hardie.
Youth Development - Lowe has clearly seen that Wilson, Randell, Tomlinson , Pursall and probably Lolos are all still a work in progress hence why they are on loan or have a clear plan. Dewsnip said for example that young Pursall is benefitting from exposure and learning from first team training.
Budgets - On the subject of budgets, it is clear to me that Lowe, Dewsnip, Schuey all talk about this every 2 weeks with Simon Hallett and Andrew Parkinson (see video where Neil refers to this). So they are simply operating within their football budget. Plus as another poster said I'm sure some parent clubs help out on the loan front. Loans are good for us, think where Cooper and Hardie came from last season.
Partnerships - I would say to have the quality of the squad we have, a clear development pathway for young players and the added bonus of having forged strong partnerships with the likes of Newcastle, Fulham and Forest is a big feather in the cap of the club and the football department. Those relationships with "bigger" clubs can only help us in the future and also bridge that gap from the football community we have due to our geographical location.

Strong start and learning - On top of this we are 8th in the league, conceded only 2 goals in the last 3 league games ( !!) , we are getting better, creating chances, playing attractive football, two academy products are delivering at either end of the pitch and as a team we are learning all the time. Ok so we might not be good enough to go up (but who knows?) but I think we are also too good to go down and I think we will have a lot more excitement than dreary times watching Argyle this season.

Argyle professionalism and positive atmosphere - Oh and all the players talk about the great atmosphere at the club (see Nouble, Watts interviews), the no"d1ckhead policy" and Luke also talked about how professional the club is compared to when he was last here (Commentators mentioned this in ifollow last week).

Wouldn't you say the club is doing really well, so why the negativity ? I've seen nearly 40 years of Argyle and this is up there with one of the best periods I have seen and I am personally very proud of how our club is developing. Well done to all concerned with the club ....oh and please don't listen to some of these serial negative naysayers nonsense posts!

How sad that you find it incredibly frustrating ,you are bafffled and find it a disservice to the quiet majority that some supporters dare to post negative comments. The audacity not to share your view.
This site is about opinions and it would be very boring if everybody had the same happy clappy outlook that you have.
Some supporters are by nature more cautious and realistic and try to temper the euphoria of others who post the opposite.
5 league games have been played in an uncertain season so I prefer to wait and see before showering such lavish praise.
I have supported Arygle longer than you and it will take a lot longer to convince me that this could be one of the best periods I have seen. Ultimately no matter what opinions we have the one thing we have in common is that we are all fans who want the best for our club.

I find it incredibly frustrating that despite the club doing well this forum can at times have such a negative focus, with some well documented perpetual naysayers. I find it baffling and a total disservice to the quiet majority that visit this site every day and put up with the negative carp being spouted.

Lets look at the facts - and I suggest on the squad development, you should all watch Neil Dewsnip's interview as he clearly states how loans are being used to strengthen the squad, talks about the development of youngster. https://www.pafc.co.uk/news/2020/octobe ... interview/

Lets look at facts on squad development and recruitment
Competition for places - Lowe wants, like most managers, 2 people fighting for each position, it creates competition and strength in depth. He now has that and it allows him to have quality options from the bench.
Fixture congestion - This season is also unique and it is going to be condensed with many games coming thick and fast which equals tiredness and injuries.
Covid Impact - On top of this we have Coronavirus rampant, we have already have had 2 players test positive. I'm sure more will test positive at some stage in the season.
Injuries - So lets imagine that 15% of the (22 man) squad is always going to be missing, so 3-4 players through a combination of injuries, illness, suspension will be out every week. So that leaves a match-day squad of 18. This weekend for example we miss Luke/ Macleod/ Sawyer and possibly Hardie.
Youth Development - Lowe has clearly seen that Wilson, Randell, Tomlinson , Pursall and probably Lolos are all still a work in progress hence why they are on loan or have a clear plan. Dewsnip said for example that young Pursall is benefitting from exposure and learning from first team training.
Budgets - On the subject of budgets, it is clear to me that Lowe, Dewsnip, Schuey all talk about this every 2 weeks with Simon Hallett and Andrew Parkinson (see video where Neil refers to this). So they are simply operating within their football budget. Plus as another poster said I'm sure some parent clubs help out on the loan front. Loans are good for us, think where Cooper and Hardie came from last season.
Partnerships - I would say to have the quality of the squad we have, a clear development pathway for young players and the added bonus of having forged strong partnerships with the likes of Newcastle, Fulham and Forest is a big feather in the cap of the club and the football department. Those relationships with "bigger" clubs can only help us in the future and also bridge that gap from the football community we have due to our geographical location.

Strong start and learning - On top of this we are 8th in the league, conceded only 2 goals in the last 3 league games ( !!) , we are getting better, creating chances, playing attractive football, two academy products are delivering at either end of the pitch and as a team we are learning all the time. Ok so we might not be good enough to go up (but who knows?) but I think we are also too good to go down and I think we will have a lot more excitement than dreary times watching Argyle this season.

Argyle professionalism and positive atmosphere - Oh and all the players talk about the great atmosphere at the club (see Nouble, Watts interviews), the no"d1ckhead policy" and Luke also talked about how professional the club is compared to when he was last here (Commentators mentioned this in ifollow last week).

Wouldn't you say the club is doing really well, so why the negativity ? I've seen nearly 40 years of Argyle and this is up there with one of the best periods I have seen and I am personally very proud of how our club is developing. Well done to all concerned with the club ....oh and please don't listen to some of these serial negative naysayers nonsense posts!

How sad that you find it incredibly frustrating ,you are bafffled and find it a disservice to the quiet majority that some supporters dare to post negative comments. The audacity not to share your view.
This site is about opinions and it would be very boring if everybody had the same happy clappy outlook that you have.
Some supporters are by nature more cautious and realistic and try to temper the euphoria of others who post the opposite.
5 league games have been played in an uncertain season so I prefer to wait and see before showering such lavish praise.
I have supported Arygle longer than you and it will take a lot longer to convince me that this could be one of the best periods I have seen. Ultimately no matter what opinions we have the one thing we have in common is that we are all fans who want the best for our club.

The sad part is that you acknowledge people have differing views , take offence that someone has the audacity to be baffled by those not sharing their views and then label positive posters 'happy clappers ' and take the high ground of being realistic . How dare someone post a positive , well reasoned , realistic post .

[Mark Pedlar]

Ultimately no matter what opinions we have the one thing we have in common is that we are all fans who want the best for our club.

There are one or two of you who make me wonder at times.

I find it incredibly frustrating that despite the club doing well this forum can at times have such a negative focus, with some well documented perpetual naysayers. I find it baffling and a total disservice to the quiet majority that visit this site every day and put up with the negative carp being spouted.

Lets look at the facts - and I suggest on the squad development, you should all watch Neil Dewsnip's interview as he clearly states how loans are being used to strengthen the squad, talks about the development of youngster. https://www.pafc.co.uk/news/2020/octobe ... interview/

Lets look at facts on squad development and recruitment
Competition for places - Lowe wants, like most managers, 2 people fighting for each position, it creates competition and strength in depth. He now has that and it allows him to have quality options from the bench.
Fixture congestion - This season is also unique and it is going to be condensed with many games coming thick and fast which equals tiredness and injuries.
Covid Impact - On top of this we have Coronavirus rampant, we have already have had 2 players test positive. I'm sure more will test positive at some stage in the season.
Injuries - So lets imagine that 15% of the (22 man) squad is always going to be missing, so 3-4 players through a combination of injuries, illness, suspension will be out every week. So that leaves a match-day squad of 18. This weekend for example we miss Luke/ Macleod/ Sawyer and possibly Hardie.
Youth Development - Lowe has clearly seen that Wilson, Randell, Tomlinson , Pursall and probably Lolos are all still a work in progress hence why they are on loan or have a clear plan. Dewsnip said for example that young Pursall is benefitting from exposure and learning from first team training.
Budgets - On the subject of budgets, it is clear to me that Lowe, Dewsnip, Schuey all talk about this every 2 weeks with Simon Hallett and Andrew Parkinson (see video where Neil refers to this). So they are simply operating within their football budget. Plus as another poster said I'm sure some parent clubs help out on the loan front. Loans are good for us, think where Cooper and Hardie came from last season.
Partnerships - I would say to have the quality of the squad we have, a clear development pathway for young players and the added bonus of having forged strong partnerships with the likes of Newcastle, Fulham and Forest is a big feather in the cap of the club and the football department. Those relationships with "bigger" clubs can only help us in the future and also bridge that gap from the football community we have due to our geographical location.

Strong start and learning - On top of this we are 8th in the league, conceded only 2 goals in the last 3 league games ( !!) , we are getting better, creating chances, playing attractive football, two academy products are delivering at either end of the pitch and as a team we are learning all the time. Ok so we might not be good enough to go up (but who knows?) but I think we are also too good to go down and I think we will have a lot more excitement than dreary times watching Argyle this season.

Argyle professionalism and positive atmosphere - Oh and all the players talk about the great atmosphere at the club (see Nouble, Watts interviews), the no"d1ckhead policy" and Luke also talked about how professional the club is compared to when he was last here (Commentators mentioned this in ifollow last week).

Wouldn't you say the club is doing really well, so why the negativity ? I've seen nearly 40 years of Argyle and this is up there with one of the best periods I have seen and I am personally very proud of how our club is developing. Well done to all concerned with the club ....oh and please don't listen to some of these serial negative naysayers nonsense posts!

How sad that you find it incredibly frustrating ,you are bafffled and find it a disservice to the quiet majority that some supporters dare to post negative comments. The audacity not to share your view.
This site is about opinions and it would be very boring if everybody had the same happy clappy outlook that you have.
Some supporters are by nature more cautious and realistic and try to temper the euphoria of others who post the opposite.
5 league games have been played in an uncertain season so I prefer to wait and see before showering such lavish praise.
I have supported Arygle longer than you and it will take a lot longer to convince me that this could be one of the best periods I have seen. Ultimately no matter what opinions we have the one thing we have in common is that we are all fans who want the best for our club.

The sad part is that you acknowledge people have differing views , take offence that someone has the audacity to be baffled by those not sharing their views and then label positive posters 'happy clappers ' and take the high ground of being realistic . How dare someone post a positive , well reasoned , realistic post .

Typical ,twisting my comments to suit your agenda. I will not change the way I post .

Ultimately no matter what opinions we have the one thing we have in common is that we are all fans who want the best for our club.

There are one or two of you who make me wonder at times.

What is wrong with some people.I have supported Argyle through good and bad times for over 50 years and I am entitled to an opinion. If you don't like what I say feel free to block me.

I find it incredibly frustrating that despite the club doing well this forum can at times have such a negative focus, with some well documented perpetual naysayers. I find it baffling and a total disservice to the quiet majority that visit this site every day and put up with the negative carp being spouted.

Lets look at the facts - and I suggest on the squad development, you should all watch Neil Dewsnip's interview as he clearly states how loans are being used to strengthen the squad, talks about the development of youngster. https://www.pafc.co.uk/news/2020/octobe ... interview/

Lets look at facts on squad development and recruitment
Competition for places - Lowe wants, like most managers, 2 people fighting for each position, it creates competition and strength in depth. He now has that and it allows him to have quality options from the bench.
Fixture congestion - This season is also unique and it is going to be condensed with many games coming thick and fast which equals tiredness and injuries.
Covid Impact - On top of this we have Coronavirus rampant, we have already have had 2 players test positive. I'm sure more will test positive at some stage in the season.
Injuries - So lets imagine that 15% of the (22 man) squad is always going to be missing, so 3-4 players through a combination of injuries, illness, suspension will be out every week. So that leaves a match-day squad of 18. This weekend for example we miss Luke/ Macleod/ Sawyer and possibly Hardie.
Youth Development - Lowe has clearly seen that Wilson, Randell, Tomlinson , Pursall and probably Lolos are all still a work in progress hence why they are on loan or have a clear plan. Dewsnip said for example that young Pursall is benefitting from exposure and learning from first team training.
Budgets - On the subject of budgets, it is clear to me that Lowe, Dewsnip, Schuey all talk about this every 2 weeks with Simon Hallett and Andrew Parkinson (see video where Neil refers to this). So they are simply operating within their football budget. Plus as another poster said I'm sure some parent clubs help out on the loan front. Loans are good for us, think where Cooper and Hardie came from last season.
Partnerships - I would say to have the quality of the squad we have, a clear development pathway for young players and the added bonus of having forged strong partnerships with the likes of Newcastle, Fulham and Forest is a big feather in the cap of the club and the football department. Those relationships with "bigger" clubs can only help us in the future and also bridge that gap from the football community we have due to our geographical location.

Strong start and learning - On top of this we are 8th in the league, conceded only 2 goals in the last 3 league games ( !!) , we are getting better, creating chances, playing attractive football, two academy products are delivering at either end of the pitch and as a team we are learning all the time. Ok so we might not be good enough to go up (but who knows?) but I think we are also too good to go down and I think we will have a lot more excitement than dreary times watching Argyle this season.

Argyle professionalism and positive atmosphere - Oh and all the players talk about the great atmosphere at the club (see Nouble, Watts interviews), the no"d1ckhead policy" and Luke also talked about how professional the club is compared to when he was last here (Commentators mentioned this in ifollow last week).

Wouldn't you say the club is doing really well, so why the negativity ? I've seen nearly 40 years of Argyle and this is up there with one of the best periods I have seen and I am personally very proud of how our club is developing. Well done to all concerned with the club ....oh and please don't listen to some of these serial negative naysayers nonsense posts!

How sad that you find it incredibly frustrating ,you are bafffled and find it a disservice to the quiet majority that some supporters dare to post negative comments. The audacity not to share your view.
This site is about opinions and it would be very boring if everybody had the same happy clappy outlook that you have.
Some supporters are by nature more cautious and realistic and try to temper the euphoria of others who post the opposite.
5 league games have been played in an uncertain season so I prefer to wait and see before showering such lavish praise.
I have supported Arygle longer than you and it will take a lot longer to convince me that this could be one of the best periods I have seen. Ultimately no matter what opinions we have the one thing we have in common is that we are all fans who want the best for our club.

The sad part is that you acknowledge people have differing views , take offence that someone has the audacity to be baffled by those not sharing their views and then label positive posters 'happy clappers ' and take the high ground of being realistic . How dare someone post a positive , well reasoned , realistic post .

Typical ,twisting my comments to suit your agenda. I will not change the way I post .

Good for you oldage , as long as you accept the way you post , regularly challenging reasonable , positive posters and twisting it to your negative viewpoint will result in reasonable , positive posters challenging your posting style . Have a nice day

i can see telford being transferred.

Who would want him though?

That could be a question that will eventually leave you with egg on your face.
He is, potentially, very quick and may not be fully match fit after his hamstring problems last season.
I would hope that he will now be in a position to test his all out pace and that, if he is confident that his fitness problems are behind him, he will start scoring goals.

Telford is not ‘very quick’, he isn’t even quick, his legs are so small that they look like they’re moving really quickly but he doesn’t actually cover ground at all if you watch him. When was the last time you saw him knock a ball past a defender and get on the end of it, the defender will either just outrun him or just muscle him off the ball as he falls to the floor like a kid in a playground.

He also doesn’t have the composure to be clinical in front of goal, because in my opinion he simply isn’t good enough. Every now and again a defence gives him the time and space he needs and he scores, but it’s rare, especially at this level.

[Ponty]

Ultimately no matter what opinions we have the one thing we have in common is that we are all fans who want the best for our club.

There are one or two of you who make me wonder at times.

What is wrong with some people.I have supported Argyle through good and bad times for over 50 years and I am entitled to an opinion. If you don't like what I say feel free to block me.

Whilst I don't agree with a lot of your views you put them across in a balanced non aggressive way without I being rude. I'm happy to keep reading your debates, if we all had the same view it would be pretty bland on here. That said I'm looking forward to three more points today and a start to the season that I'm happy with.

Reading some of the stuff on here you would think we are riding high in the Championship or at least on the verge of promotion.
Lets have some balance that's all
Yes we are 8th after 5 games. Big fing deal. 2 points above 16th and couple of teams have games in hand.
How about 1 win in last 6 and that against a terrible team who lost most of their players in the Summer due to finances and had several injuries? Even then we scored 2 lucky goals and they missed a sitter.
I'm not complaining just being realistic. Those are the facts. I also judge on performances not the simplistic 'oh we won so everything must be great' argument. Win the next 5 and I will be converted.
Off the field things are promising sure, but forgive me for not being optimistic when we dont even know when fans will be allowed in again despite assurances from Owl. (he's been quiet lately- another example of blind optimism).
So lets not have all this some of most exciting times for last 40 years nonsense. A couple of defeats and it will no doubt be the opposite from similar posters. And lets not have all this 'oh you can't be a real supporter' stuff.
Only thing that concerns me is I am agreeing with Oldage.

[GreenThing]

Things change. 40yrs ago there ware only 3 channels to watch on telly; if you saw someone driving a Mercedes, you thought they were special; pop music was listenable and Argyle were regulars in the second division.

Anyone who is disappointed because we aren’t the club we are 40yrs ago will continue to be disappointed. Live for the moment, enjoy the ups and downs and accept what’s happening now instead of looking back to the past and maybe, like me, they’ll get a bit more enjoyment from the game.

Ultimately no matter what opinions we have the one thing we have in common is that we are all fans who want the best for our club.

There are one or two of you who make me wonder at times.

What is wrong with some people.I have supported Argyle through good and bad times for over 50 years and I am entitled to an opinion. If you don't like what I say feel free to block me.

Whilst I don't agree with a lot of your views you put them across in a balanced non aggressive way without I being rude. I'm happy to keep reading your debates, if we all had the same view it would be pretty bland on here. That said I'm looking forward to three more points today and a start to the season that I'm happy with.

Also hoping for three points today. Could be a load of old cobblers!