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Jan 31, 2005
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This is the rumours section so I fully expect this to be shot down in flames... but here goes...

My mum encountered through a work colleague the wife of an Argyle director. She mentioned what was said about Argyle to me...

- The current problems started when Stapleton was forced to step back by Toddy. Stapleton has apparently become quite frustrated with some of the decision made by the board.

- The financial problems are not as bad as some people think, they are being sorted

- The club are considering the future of Peter Reid as they feel he is under performing

- They believe that Ridsdale is the best way for the club to get out of the current problems.
 
Jun 24, 2008
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Makes quite a lot of sense if true

Stapleton does seem to have been stifled somewhat however his experience should be used more
 
Jan 4, 2009
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A bit unfair on Reid as i think with what has gone on in the background has obviously affected the team and i think its obvious by our performances that morale is at rock bottom.
 
Aug 12, 2010
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Hello Ocean Finance ?.........my names Keith....... ive seen your ads on TV and I would like to know can you lend us a couple of million by next Wednesday ?
Yes just 7 mill........
:eek:
No dont actually have a plan to repay it......... :cry:
 
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Tavypilgrim":3u6yjwm9 said:
This is the rumours section so I fully expect this to be shot down in flames... but here goes...

My mum encountered through a work colleague the wife of an Argyle director. She mentioned what was said about Argyle to me...

- The current problems started when Stapleton was forced to step back by Toddy. Stapleton has apparently become quite frustrated with some of the decision made by the board.

- The financial problems are not as bad as some people think, they are being sorted

- The club are considering the future of Peter Reid as they feel he is under performing

- They believe that Ridsdale is the best way for the club to get out of the current problems.

Strange,i thought our problems started when Stapes was in charge.It wasn't Mrs Stapleton talking to your mum,was it?
 
Feb 29, 2008
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Greenskin":18ed5ynu said:
Tavypilgrim":18ed5ynu said:
This is the rumours section so I fully expect this to be shot down in flames... but here goes...

My mum encountered through a work colleague the wife of an Argyle director. She mentioned what was said about Argyle to me...

- The current problems started when Stapleton was forced to step back by Toddy. Stapleton has apparently become quite frustrated with some of the decision made by the board.

- The financial problems are not as bad as some people think, they are being sorted

- The club are considering the future of Peter Reid as they feel he is under performing

- They believe that Ridsdale is the best way for the club to get out of the current problems.

Strange,i thought our problems started when Stapes was in charge.It wasn't Mrs Stapleton talking to your mum,was it?

Yes, he was guilty of not having millions to pump into the club, he was guilty of the fans not turning up to support the best team in decades, he was guilty of having fans like you that are too dim to realise that those times you are dissing him for are the best we are likely to see in a long long while.
Could we blame him for the World Cup bid not being won as well?
 
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argyleiggy":2uk3np83 said:
Greenskin":2uk3np83 said:
Tavypilgrim":2uk3np83 said:
This is the rumours section so I fully expect this to be shot down in flames... but here goes...

My mum encountered through a work colleague the wife of an Argyle director. She mentioned what was said about Argyle to me...

- The current problems started when Stapleton was forced to step back by Toddy. Stapleton has apparently become quite frustrated with some of the decision made by the board.

- The financial problems are not as bad as some people think, they are being sorted

- The club are considering the future of Peter Reid as they feel he is under performing

- They believe that Ridsdale is the best way for the club to get out of the current problems.

Strange,i thought our problems started when Stapes was in charge.It wasn't Mrs Stapleton talking to your mum,was it?

Yes, he was guilty of not having millions to pump into the club, he was guilty of the fans not turning up to support the best team in decades, he was guilty of having fans like you that are too dim to realise that those times you are dissing him for are the best we are likely to see in a long long while.
Could we blame him for the World Cup bid not being won as well?

Of course i don't blame him for not being rich enough.What i do blame him for are the following;

a.For not seeking further investment when it was clear that the current regime could not take the club further,as evidenced by Mr Gill in his resignation letter.If that investment had been sought,then maybe we would have got through a potential promotion/play off season without having to sell five of our best players halfway through.And our gates were hardly at Blackpool's level,were they? The same Blackpool who now sit in a pretty good position in the premiership.

b.For bringing the New World to the club to further the property development angle and allowing the cumbersome,unwieldy structure of major shareholders to be implemented,which was bound to cause power struggles and adversely affect decision making.The property development theory is certainly not a figment of my imagination-did it not cause the resignation of Peter Jones,Nic Warren and the late Michael Foot? If you suggest that you know better than those three worthies,then i bow to your superior knowledge,it just strikes me that they were in a slightly better position than you to make a judgement.

c.The obsession with bringing Sturrock back to the club.

I certainly don't need lectures from you about bad times at Home park.I was there when Argyle had the lowest crowd in their history, and in a far worse position playing wise, as a matter of fact,not that i'm especially proud of that.As a fan of god knows how many years,i'm well aware that the club has enjoyed sporadic success,to say the least,and yes,i was grateful for the early years under Stapes,some of the best times i've ever seen at Home park.What galls me is that they could have lasted so much longer and for the fact that didn't,then the person at the top must be accountable to at least a certain extent.He took praise for his contribution to the halcyon years,rightly so,to me it's only fair that he gets criticised for at least playing a part in the shambles currently on display.For your information,before the world cup bid was announced,i didn't even give it a thought as far as Plymouth was concerned and after the announcement was made today,that state of mind has been resumed.

There,a point of view all without a personal insult.
 
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Greenskin":19abtlwg said:
argyleiggy":19abtlwg said:
Greenskin":19abtlwg said:
Tavypilgrim":19abtlwg said:
This is the rumours section so I fully expect this to be shot down in flames... but here goes...

My mum encountered through a work colleague the wife of an Argyle director. She mentioned what was said about Argyle to me...

- The current problems started when Stapleton was forced to step back by Toddy. Stapleton has apparently become quite frustrated with some of the decision made by the board.

- The financial problems are not as bad as some people think, they are being sorted

- The club are considering the future of Peter Reid as they feel he is under performing

- They believe that Ridsdale is the best way for the club to get out of the current problems.

Strange,i thought our problems started when Stapes was in charge.It wasn't Mrs Stapleton talking to your mum,was it?

Yes, he was guilty of not having millions to pump into the club, he was guilty of the fans not turning up to support the best team in decades, he was guilty of having fans like you that are too dim to realise that those times you are dissing him for are the best we are likely to see in a long long while.
Could we blame him for the World Cup bid not being won as well?

Of course i don't blame him for not being rich enough.What i do blame him for are the following;

a.For not seeking further investment when it was clear that the current regime could not take the club further,as evidenced by Mr Gill in his resignation letter.If that investment had been sought,then maybe we would have got through a potential promotion/play off season without having to sell five of our best players halfway through.And our gates were hardly at Blackpool's level,were they? The same Blackpool who now sit in a pretty good position in the premiership.

b.For bringing the New World to the club to further the property development angle and allowing the cumbersome,unwieldy structure of major shareholders to be implemented,which was bound to cause power struggles and adversely affect decision making.The property development theory is certainly not a figment of my imagination-did it not cause the resignation of Peter Jones,Nic Warren and the late Michael Foot? If you suggest that you know better than those three worthies,then i bow to your superior knowledge,it just strikes me that they were in a slightly better position than you to make a judgement.

c.The obsession with bringing Sturrock back to the club.

I certainly don't need lectures from you about bad times at Home park.I was there when Argyle had the lowest crowd in their history, and in a far worse position playing wise, as a matter of fact,not that i'm especially proud of that.As a fan of god knows how many years,i'm well aware that the club has enjoyed sporadic success,to say the least,and yes,i was grateful for the early years under Stapes,some of the best times i've ever seen at Home park.What galls me is that they could have lasted so much longer and for the fact that didn't,then the person at the top must be accountable to at least a certain extent.He took praise for his contribution to the halcyon years,rightly so,to me it's only fair that he gets criticised for at least playing a part in the shambles currently on display.For your information,before the world cup bid was announced,i didn't even give it a thought as far as Plymouth was concerned and after the announcement was made today,that state of mind has been resumed.

There,a point of view all without a personal insult.

Totally correct - guilty!!
 
Aug 26, 2009
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Hey lads/lasses, if ever there was a time for us all to pull together, it is now.

These are trying times indeed. Let's just hope the money people have the same love for the club that we all have.

Only this club matters at this time, to all of us, not our silly arguments eh?
 
Feb 29, 2008
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bandwagon":1mu7bqbk said:
Greenskin":1mu7bqbk said:
argyleiggy":1mu7bqbk said:
Greenskin":1mu7bqbk said:
Tavypilgrim":1mu7bqbk said:
This is the rumours section so I fully expect this to be shot down in flames... but here goes...

My mum encountered through a work colleague the wife of an Argyle director. She mentioned what was said about Argyle to me...

- The current problems started when Stapleton was forced to step back by Toddy. Stapleton has apparently become quite frustrated with some of the decision made by the board.

- The financial problems are not as bad as some people think, they are being sorted

- The club are considering the future of Peter Reid as they feel he is under performing

- They believe that Ridsdale is the best way for the club to get out of the current problems.

Strange,i thought our problems started when Stapes was in charge.It wasn't Mrs Stapleton talking to your mum,was it?

Yes, he was guilty of not having millions to pump into the club, he was guilty of the fans not turning up to support the best team in decades, he was guilty of having fans like you that are too dim to realise that those times you are dissing him for are the best we are likely to see in a long long while.
Could we blame him for the World Cup bid not being won as well?

Of course i don't blame him for not being rich enough.What i do blame him for are the following;

a.For not seeking further investment when it was clear that the current regime could not take the club further,as evidenced by Mr Gill in his resignation letter.If that investment had been sought,then maybe we would have got through a potential promotion/play off season without having to sell five of our best players halfway through.And our gates were hardly at Blackpool's level,were they? The same Blackpool who now sit in a pretty good position in the premiership.

b.For bringing the New World to the club to further the property development angle and allowing the cumbersome,unwieldy structure of major shareholders to be implemented,which was bound to cause power struggles and adversely affect decision making.The property development theory is certainly not a figment of my imagination-did it not cause the resignation of Peter Jones,Nic Warren and the late Michael Foot? If you suggest that you know better than those three worthies,then i bow to your superior knowledge,it just strikes me that they were in a slightly better position than you to make a judgement.

c.The obsession with bringing Sturrock back to the club.

I certainly don't need lectures from you about bad times at Home park.I was there when Argyle had the lowest crowd in their history, and in a far worse position playing wise, as a matter of fact,not that i'm especially proud of that.As a fan of god knows how many years,i'm well aware that the club has enjoyed sporadic success,to say the least,and yes,i was grateful for the early years under Stapes,some of the best times i've ever seen at Home park.What galls me is that they could have lasted so much longer and for the fact that didn't,then the person at the top must be accountable to at least a certain extent.He took praise for his contribution to the halcyon years,rightly so,to me it's only fair that he gets criticised for at least playing a part in the shambles currently on display.For your information,before the world cup bid was announced,i didn't even give it a thought as far as Plymouth was concerned and after the announcement was made today,that state of mind has been resumed.

There,a point of view all without a personal insult.

Totally correct - guilty!!

And where is you're proof or even evidence that Stapes didn't try and get outside investment or in fact turn any away? In fact he did get investment with bringing in the NWO because he couldn't take it any further. The fact it has all gone wrong is not his fault. And lets not for one minute turn to Janner apathy shall we?
What do we want?
Premiership football!
How are we going to go about it?
By sitting at my keyboard instead of supporting the club and hoping that a load of foreigners are going to sort it out for me in my absence.
Now don't think that I am a supporter of the new world but 4950 fans at our last game, only ever going to be one outcome to that.
 
Dec 2, 2010
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ghost of hughie reed":dh9ow5ka said:
Hello Ocean Finance ?.........my names Keith....... ive seen your ads on TV and I would like to know can you lend us a couple of million by next Wednesday ?
Yes just 7 mill........
:eek:
No dont actually have a plan to repay it......... :cry:

Maybe Toady should try this lot!


Payday loan

If we applied for a £1,000 a day for the next 20 years that should see us through to Champions League glory!

As for Peter Reid, I doubt if being paid late is bothering him too much.
He must be quite looking forward to the prospect of Ridsdale, seeing though he gave hm a contract with a £500K bonus for keeping Leeds up.
 
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argyleiggy":uat8htsk said:
bandwagon":uat8htsk said:
Greenskin":uat8htsk said:
argyleiggy":uat8htsk said:
Greenskin":uat8htsk said:
Tavypilgrim":uat8htsk said:
This is the rumours section so I fully expect this to be shot down in flames... but here goes...

My mum encountered through a work colleague the wife of an Argyle director. She mentioned what was said about Argyle to me...

- The current problems started when Stapleton was forced to step back by Toddy. Stapleton has apparently become quite frustrated with some of the decision made by the board.

- The financial problems are not as bad as some people think, they are being sorted

- The club are considering the future of Peter Reid as they feel he is under performing

- They believe that Ridsdale is the best way for the club to get out of the current problems.

Strange,i thought our problems started when Stapes was in charge.It wasn't Mrs Stapleton talking to your mum,was it?

Yes, he was guilty of not having millions to pump into the club, he was guilty of the fans not turning up to support the best team in decades, he was guilty of having fans like you that are too dim to realise that those times you are dissing him for are the best we are likely to see in a long long while.
Could we blame him for the World Cup bid not being won as well?

Of course i don't blame him for not being rich enough.What i do blame him for are the following;

a.For not seeking further investment when it was clear that the current regime could not take the club further,as evidenced by Mr Gill in his resignation letter.If that investment had been sought,then maybe we would have got through a potential promotion/play off season without having to sell five of our best players halfway through.And our gates were hardly at Blackpool's level,were they? The same Blackpool who now sit in a pretty good position in the premiership.

b.For bringing the New World to the club to further the property development angle and allowing the cumbersome,unwieldy structure of major shareholders to be implemented,which was bound to cause power struggles and adversely affect decision making.The property development theory is certainly not a figment of my imagination-did it not cause the resignation of Peter Jones,Nic Warren and the late Michael Foot? If you suggest that you know better than those three worthies,then i bow to your superior knowledge,it just strikes me that they were in a slightly better position than you to make a judgement.

c.The obsession with bringing Sturrock back to the club.

I certainly don't need lectures from you about bad times at Home park.I was there when Argyle had the lowest crowd in their history, and in a far worse position playing wise, as a matter of fact,not that i'm especially proud of that.As a fan of god knows how many years,i'm well aware that the club has enjoyed sporadic success,to say the least,and yes,i was grateful for the early years under Stapes,some of the best times i've ever seen at Home park.What galls me is that they could have lasted so much longer and for the fact that didn't,then the person at the top must be accountable to at least a certain extent.He took praise for his contribution to the halcyon years,rightly so,to me it's only fair that he gets criticised for at least playing a part in the shambles currently on display.For your information,before the world cup bid was announced,i didn't even give it a thought as far as Plymouth was concerned and after the announcement was made today,that state of mind has been resumed.

There,a point of view all without a personal insult.

Totally correct - guilty!!

And where is you're proof or even evidence that Stapes didn't try and get outside investment or in fact turn any away? In fact he did get investment with bringing in the NWO because he couldn't take it any further. The fact it has all gone wrong is not his fault. And lets not for one minute turn to Janner apathy shall we?
What do we want?
Premiership football!
How are we going to go about it?
By sitting at my keyboard instead of supporting the club and hoping that a load of foreigners are going to sort it out for me in my absence.
Now don't think that I am a supporter of the new world but 4950 fans at our last game, only ever going to be one outcome to that.

The evidence that no attempt was made to secure investment other than that from the new world was provided by Phil Gill in his valedictory statement to the press.Are you saying that the content of that statement was inaccurate? He also expressed his concern that the promised investment from the Japanese contingent had not been committed to contract,thereby resulting in the signing of players on long term contracts with no recourse to law should the said money not be forthcoming.

Ah yes,apathetic janners.Just a simple question.What do Reading,Wigan,Hull,Blackpool and Burnley all have in common? Answer-for the best part of the last 40 years,all of those clubs have averaged less through the turnstiles than Argyle.Strange then,that with the success those clubs have achieved in recent years,their crowds have risen accordingly.What do you put that down to,apathetic Readingers,Wiganers or whatever other name you choose to call them suddenly showing blind loyalty to their local club? Can't you see the co-relation between success [especially long term] and crowds? What success did Argyle have to offer in our 6 years in the CCC? A brief spell in the play off positions just after Holloway left and a short flirtation again after the Leicester/Holloway game.Not that much to get excited about,really.I know what you're going to say,that the gates were low before Holloway left and indeed they were.But anyone acquainted with Argyle's history will know that,without exception, gates crescendo after xmas in any successful season that you care to name and never before have Argyle sold 5 of their best players half way through a potentially successful season.People are fickle,especially in cities or towns whose football teams have never achieved anything of note-how big were Cardiff's gates in the 1990's/early 2000's compared to now? Apathy and following success certainly isn't exclusive to Plymouth,the difference between us and other Cities is that they've found ways to attract fans on a long term basis through success on the field,we haven't,end of.
 
Jun 24, 2008
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victor":fwspjrt3 said:
Hey lads/lasses, if ever there was a time for us all to pull together, it is now.

These are trying times indeed. Let's just hope the money people have the same love for the club that we all have.

Only this club matters at this time, to all of us, not our silly arguments eh?

Oh the next generation

Sorry but I am struggling to get excited by argyle anymore I am now hitting the stage where I can say seen it all before except this board are doing there best to become the biggest set of shysters we have ever had

Good luck though for me now i need to see the ambition and care of the board whoever they maybe in the coming months
 
Aug 26, 2009
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I agree pal!

I am waiting to see what happens in the close season - that will show me where the club's plans are aimed.

Until then, I am 'green' through and through. If the Board show no balls then, I am out. I will not have them take the proverbial any more.

I am 66 years old and a life long supporter, but if the Board cannot show me a clear way to progress, that is it. They have 6 months!