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Re: F1 2020

Posted: 11:15 11 Jul 2020
by MickyD
Ferrari's Mugello track to host Tuscan GP as new dates fixed in F1 calendar
The race at Mugello, a circuit owned by Ferrari that has never hosted F1, will be designated the Grand Prix of Tuscany and take place on 13 September forming a triple-header after Spa and Monza. The Russian Grand Prix at Sochi was also confirmed to take place on 27 September. F1 is hopeful that both events will be open to fans, making Mugello the first meeting not held behind closed doors in 2020. Tickets for the Russian GP have been advertised and the organisers have confirmed they intend to allow fans to attend.

Optimistic, I would have thought? And how will the drivers and so on stay in those bubbles that are currently working so well? Presumably the paddocks will stay closed to non-essential personnel but it's hard to imagine no "bleed" at all.

Re: F1 2020

Posted: 21:36 12 Jul 2020
by MickyD
Blimey, it didn't take long for us to get blasé again. Hardly the thrills 'n' spills of last week, mind, was it? Quite the procession, in fact.

Great to see more last-lap heroics from Norris, though - and after the latest in a long line of Ferrarck-ups* he finds himself comfortably third in the championship.

* I think that should become an official term in the F1 lexicon: a Ferrari - um, farrago.

Re: F1 2020

Posted: 10:34 13 Jul 2020
by Pogleswoody
MickyD wrote: Blimey, it didn't take long for us to get blasé again. Hardly the thrills 'n' spills of last week, mind, was it? Quite the procession, in fact.

Great to see more last-lap heroics from Norris, though - and after the latest in a long line of Ferrarck-ups* he finds himself comfortably third in the championship.

* I think that should become an official term in the F1 lexicon: a Ferrari - um, farrago.


Causing F1 furore?? :think:

Re: F1 2020

Posted: 11:03 13 Jul 2020
by Argylegames
I have never understood the British love for an Italian racing company. Even Murray Walker said on air he wanted to see Ferrari win!
If I can't see a British car win, at least I can be happy that we have a British driver winning. I do not want to see Ferrari winning at all.

Re: F1 2020

Posted: 11:58 13 Jul 2020
by MickyD
Argylegames wrote: I have never understood the British love for an Italian racing company. Even Murray Walker said on air he wanted to see Ferrari win!
If I can't see a British car win, at least I can be happy that we have a British driver winning. I do not want to see Ferrari winning at all.

Maybe because they're a legendary team and marque and most people don't care much where they happen to come from?

Re: F1 2020

Posted: 07:05 14 Jul 2020
by Clarke_B
Argylegames wrote: I have never understood the British love for an Italian racing company. Even Murray Walker said on air he wanted to see Ferrari win!
If I can't see a British car win, at least I can be happy that we have a British driver winning. I do not want to see Ferrari winning at all.


Thankfully most British F1 fans don't have the same ignorant views as yourself. Mercedes for example are a German manufacturer but are based in Northamptonshire with an Austrian team principle and drivers from Britain and Finland. There is no such thing as a quintessential British team anymore.

I don't even think that many British fans like Hamilton, he is a very unlikeable character and when he retires I don't think he will be missed as much as someone like Schumacher was worldwide.

Re: F1 2020

Posted: 08:43 14 Jul 2020
by Argylegames
Clarke_B wrote: There is no such thing as a quintessential British team anymore.


A point I made in my post.

Clarke_B wrote: I don't even think that many British fans like Hamilton, he is a very unlikeable character


I think he is a very likeable character. He is almost approaching my favourite cricketing hero Douglas Jardine. :whistle:

Re: F1 2020

Posted: 13:34 14 Jul 2020
by GreenThing
MickyD wrote:
Argylegames wrote: I have never understood the British love for an Italian racing company. Even Murray Walker said on air he wanted to see Ferrari win!
If I can't see a British car win, at least I can be happy that we have a British driver winning. I do not want to see Ferrari winning at all.

Maybe because they're a legendary team and marque and most people don't care much where they happen to come from?


Much has been said about their commitment and that they are the only team which has been there since the start. However, they have boycotted race(s) because the old man wanted more money, they have also threatened to pull out of F1 on many occasions when they wanted leverage to get their own way. Williams and McLaren have both been in the sport a very long time and have showed more commitment to the sport.

With this in mind, I have the same feeling towards them as Argylegames. If I was an F1 driver, my dream would be Williams.

Re: F1 2020

Posted: 22:34 14 Jul 2020
by Knibbsworth
MickyD wrote:
Argylegames wrote: I have never understood the British love for an Italian racing company. Even Murray Walker said on air he wanted to see Ferrari win!
If I can't see a British car win, at least I can be happy that we have a British driver winning. I do not want to see Ferrari winning at all.

Maybe because they're a legendary team and marque and most people don't care much where they happen to come from?


Exactly, it is the same reason millions of saddo losers are drawn to Liverpool and Manchester United. They cling to the first hint of swaggering success they see on television and never let it go.

Re: F1 2020

Posted: 02:17 15 Jul 2020
by Andy_S
Ferrari also cheat...spectacularly!

For the lovers of anything red with a poncing...sorry prancing horse, could you explain, in words of one syllable, what the EXACT outcome of the latest enquiry into Maranello shinanigans was?

Oh...you can't! Because at Ferrari's insistence it was all kept quiet!

Next time they threaten to withdraw from F1...goodbye and don't let the door slam you in the ar5e on the way out!

Re: F1 2020

Posted: 08:57 15 Jul 2020
by MickyD
I for one was not defending Ferrari; just offering a non-nationalistic possible explanation of why so many people are so fond of them. I agree that the F1 team have often come across as super-arrogant and entitled, and have sometimes got away with murder, including that mysterious deal they did with the FIA last year - since when their performance has dropped off dramatically.

I don't have any empirical evidence, but I've alwys imagined that many non-Italian Ferrari F1 fans are first drawn to the history and glamour of the road cars. I mean, what non-French person is going to latch on to the Renault team, for example, however well they might do in F1? And what history have McLaren got under their belt as supercar makers compared to Ferrari? Like it or not, Ferrari fandom is inevitable.

Re: F1 2020

Posted: 20:07 15 Jul 2020
by Herts_Green
Clarke_B wrote:
Argylegames wrote: I have never understood the British love for an Italian racing company. Even Murray Walker said on air he wanted to see Ferrari win!
If I can't see a British car win, at least I can be happy that we have a British driver winning. I do not want to see Ferrari winning at all.


Thankfully most British F1 fans don't have the same ignorant views as yourself. Mercedes for example are a German manufacturer but are based in Northamptonshire with an Austrian team principle and drivers from Britain and Finland. There is no such thing as a quintessential British team anymore.

I don't even think that many British fans like Hamilton, he is a very unlikeable character and when he retires I don't think he will be missed as much as someone like Schumacher was worldwide.

You’re wrong about Hamilton. If you go to Silverstone the support for him is almost universal and it makes for a brilliant atmosphere. As for Schumacher you’ve got to be joking, the guy was a cheat although his brilliance as a driver is undeniable.

Re: F1 2020

Posted: 20:18 15 Jul 2020
by Argylegames
MickyD wrote: And what history have McLaren got under their belt as supercar makers compared to Ferrari? Like it or not, Ferrari fandom is inevitable.


I suggest you google McLaren supercars - oh hang on ...

https://lmgtfy.com/?q=mclaren+supercars+list

:greensmile: